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President Bush is eating in my undisclosed location (UPDATE: Undisclosed location is IRAQ!)
Eyes on ^ | 271830(C)NOV03 | ChiefKujo

Posted on 11/27/2003 7:37:26 AM PST by ChiefKujo

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To: nicmarlo
Check your ping-a-ling-list.
1,681 posted on 11/27/2003 10:35:39 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (I'm goin' to LoganLand!)
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Some single seat SR-71s were built and designated Y-12s (CIA planes). There's one on display at an Air Museum in San Diego

That would be A-12 (there were A-11s as well, and YF-12s, but the Y in that case means prototype, even the YF-12s were two seaters. Had a fire control system and missle very similar to the F-14's AWG-9/Phoneix combo, in fact the latter were derived from the former. Similarly the SR-71 was derived from the A-11/12, rather than the other way around. In fact the SR should have been the RS, but Johnson screwed it up during the announcment of it's existance, and so SR it became and stayed.

1,682 posted on 11/27/2003 10:41:32 PM PST by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: Brad's Gramma
check my ping list???
1,683 posted on 11/27/2003 10:46:51 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Yaelle
Boy, I just love this story. Thank God they were successful.

Inside Bush's Secret Trip to Baghdad

By Steve Holland

BAGHDAD (Reuters) - Slouched in the back of a nondescript vehicle with a baseball cap pulled over his face, President Bush sneaked out of Texas on the first leg of his bold trip to Baghdad.

It was the starting point of a long journey that had to be kept secret or would be called off because of the security risk.

The cover story, perpetuated by the White House press office, was that Bush was having Thanksgiving dinner with his family at his Crawford, Texas, ranch.

But the reality was that a Bush trip to Baghdad had been in the planning stages since mid-October, with Bush agonizing over the details.

It picked up steam in recent weeks and finally received the green light on Wednesday. Only a handful of top aides knew about it, as did Bush's wife, Laura. But Bush's parents, former President George Bush and Barbara Bush, were kept in the dark -- they went to Crawford expecting to eat a turkey dinner with their son.

Bush, with national security adviser Condoleezza Rice, slipped away from his ranch in a vehicle with tinted windows, on Wednesday night, security personnel at the wheel.

They encountered traffic, something Bush has rarely faced in nearly three years of using the Marine One helicopter to get from A to B in a hurry.

"A lot of people (were) heading up to Dallas," Bush said once Air Force One was safely out of Iraqi air space. "And so we were about 10 minutes late to the plane."

To get to his Air Force One jet parked at the Texas State Technical College in Waco, Bush pulled his cap low and slumped to the side. Rice did the same.

The vehicle passed through the gate and Bush entered the plane from the rear to avoid being seen.

The story used to explain why the plane was leaving was that it needed routine maintenance back in Washington.

The secrecy was holding.

Next stop: Andrews Air Force Base in Washington.

The plane entered a giant hangar, Bush stepped off and immediately boarded a second Air Force jet, gassed up and ready to go.

Bush found this the most crucial moment for keeping the trip secret, because now more people knew about it. He cautioned reporters against making cell phone calls.

"I wasn't sure whether or not people would be able to tell their loved ones: 'I can't see you on Thanksgiving. I can't tell you why,' I was worried about that but I was fully prepared to turn this baby around and come home."

A truncated press pool was taken, its members cautioned ahead of time that the trip was a national security secret and that if word got out, it could jeopardize the president.

The plane took off for Baghdad on Wednesday night on an 11-hour flight.

Somewhere en route, a British Airways pilot thought he spotted an unusual plane from his cockpit.

"Did I just see Air Force One?" the pilot radioed.

There was a pause. Then came the response from Air Force One: "Gulfstream 5" -- a much smaller aircraft.

Another pause. "Oh," said the BA pilot.

With three hours to go, Bush had the Secret Service check to see if his mission was still secret.

"They assured me that there was still a tight hold on the information, that conditions on the ground were as positive as positive could be."

Toward the end of the flight, bullet-proof vests were distributed to those who wanted them. Flight attendants ordered all window covers closed. All lights inside the plane were turned off. Bush said he went up to the cockpit to watch the pilot, Col. Mark Tilman, land at Baghdad's airport.

The plane landed in nearly pitch darkness, a sliver of moon hanging in the sky. Passengers disembarked and climbed into vehicles for the short ride to a military mess hall.

U.S. civil administrator Paul Bremer added a dramatic flourish, telling the 600 soldiers gathered that only the most senior person there could read the president's Thanksgiving proclamation to them.

Out walked Bush. The crowd of troops wearing desert fatigues roared its approval.

"I've been in things with excited crowds before. But this place truly erupted," Bush said.

1,684 posted on 11/27/2003 10:46:55 PM PST by TexKat (Just because you did not see it or read it, that does not mean it did or did not happen.)
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To: nicmarlo
Whoops. I wrote that wrong...I pinged YOU to something.

Check your comments page. (sorry)
1,685 posted on 11/27/2003 10:48:38 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (I'm goin' to LoganLand!)
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To: JustPiper; Tijeras_Slim
LOL! She looks super imposed on every picture!

That's what Algore said.

1,686 posted on 11/27/2003 10:53:23 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: Ragtime Cowgirl; LindaSOG
Buuuump!
1,687 posted on 11/27/2003 10:55:01 PM PST by Alamo-Girl
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To: ChadGore
"We did not charge hundreds of miles into the heart of Iraq, pay a bitter cost of casualties, defeat a ruthless dictator and liberate 25 million people only to retreat before a band of thugs and assassins.

"When I take action, I'm not going to fire a $2 million missile at a $10 empty tent and hit a camel in the butt. It?s going to be decisive."

President Bush quoted in Newsweek 9/24/01 issue.

1,688 posted on 11/27/2003 10:59:54 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: Spunky
I think I have heard that whatever plane he is in is called AF1.

That is correct.

1,689 posted on 11/27/2003 11:01:02 PM PST by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: Brad's Gramma
Just wanted to say "hi" and wish you a Happy Thanksgiving

Ms.B
1,690 posted on 11/27/2003 11:02:45 PM PST by MS.BEHAVIN ("Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds".Re-elect G.W.Bush)
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To: Timesink
Speaking in purely PR terms, this was a grand slam home run for Team Bush.

With a successful two point conversion too.

1,691 posted on 11/27/2003 11:04:17 PM PST by Paleo Conservative (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: MS.BEHAVIN
YOU TOO, Ms. B!!!! I hope you've been smilin' all day long, like 99% of America!

WAY TO GO GW!!!!!!
1,692 posted on 11/27/2003 11:04:37 PM PST by Brad’s Gramma (I'm goin' to LoganLand!)
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To: Spunky
Which ever plane the President goes in, is it called Air Force One? I think I have heard that whatever plane he is in is called AF1.

From http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/vc-25.htm:

"The mission of the VC-25A aircraft -- Air Force One -- is to provide air transport for the president of the United States. The presidential air transport fleet consists of two specially configured Boeing 747-200B's -- tail numbers 28000 and 29000 -- with the Air Force designation VC-25A. When the president is aboard either aircraft, or any Air Force aircraft, the radio call sign is "Air Force One."

When he landed onboard the carrier, the plane was "Navy One", and the chopper he flies in routinely is "Marine One", again when the President is onboard.

1,693 posted on 11/27/2003 11:04:58 PM PST by El Gato (Federal Judges can twist the Constitution into anything.. Or so they think.)
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To: ican'tbelieveit; mrobison; Jeff Gordon
The threat to President Bush is in Iraq. Do you really think that CK's announcement here on FR would have made the terrorists any more aware of where Bush was than the actual troop activities in Iraq?

I had been done with this topic for six hours, but since you felt the need to pull me back in: WOULD have? Probably not. COULD have? Absolutely. The old phrase "Loose lips sink ships" was created by the armed forces way back when for a reason. All it would have taken was one symp with the right connections, just one.

I'm taking the word of the White House over yours, sorry. They kept this a secret and flew into Baghdad under cover of darkness for a reason. As I have said SEVERAL TIMES already, no harm no foul in the end, but neither am I going to sit here and deny the obvious fact that some tiny amount of risk was accrued due to the original post made while Bush was still on the ground in Baghdad.

1,694 posted on 11/27/2003 11:05:49 PM PST by Timesink (I'm not a big fan of electronic stuff, you know? Beeps ... beeps freak me out. They're bad.)
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To: Travis McGee; wardaddy; harpseal; Eaker; chookter; AAABEST; Joe Brower; patton; Jeff Head; ...
this was just too kewl..........
1,695 posted on 11/27/2003 11:06:16 PM PST by Squantos (Support Mental Health !........or........ I'LL KILL YOU !!!!)
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To: 2rightsleftcoast
I am so proud of President Bush...I cried when I saw the tears in his eyes. What a man..what a leader. I'm proud to be an American..even more so with this man as our leader and commander-in-chief. God bless him. Hope you had a wonderful Thanksgiving!
1,696 posted on 11/27/2003 11:07:18 PM PST by Wait4Truth
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To: El Gato; Spunky
I believe that the President was flying TO Baghdad in AF1 (the 747) as it has been reported that a British pilot, who spotted AF1 in the air, asked the AF1 pilot "is that AF1" to which the President's pilot said "no, it's a gulfstream 9." The British pilot reportedly understanding something was up merely said "oh."
1,697 posted on 11/27/2003 11:08:51 PM PST by nicmarlo
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To: Brad's Gramma
I sure have been smiling all day

"W' really made this a Thanksgiving to remember!

Ms.B
1,698 posted on 11/27/2003 11:10:26 PM PST by MS.BEHAVIN ("Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds".Re-elect G.W.Bush)
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To: ChiefKujo
BRAVO!
1,699 posted on 11/27/2003 11:11:39 PM PST by F-117A
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To: Jalapeno; ChiefKujo
sir, just read post 1580... you concerns, while partly valid, should be in a different thread on the uses of the internet and the reporting functions.

While I appreciate your concern for limiting access to information by the enemy. However, there is a separate issue of limitations to freedom of expression CREATED by terror.

You are capitulating to the very terror that our troops are fighting against.

I appreciate the action of ChiefKujo and believe that he is in a better position to judge the security issues involved. After all, unless you are in the same unit as ChiefKujo, you are not privey to the immediate security situation on the airfield.

The moniker of "loose lips sink ships" while appropriate should not preclude the reporting of news and information.

If the Pentagon feels it permissible for our troops to have internet access, I feel that "chiefkujo" has the right to state what he wants, when he wants to.

Do not capitulate to terrorists by over-limiting our expression of speech.
1,700 posted on 11/27/2003 11:13:51 PM PST by bonesmccoy (Defeat the terrorists... Vaccinate!)
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