California Governor Schwarzenegger launches right-wing agenda (Socialists are having apoplexy)

World Socialist WebSite ^ | Nov. 29, 2003 | Don Knowland and Andrea Peters

[hellinahandcart]

Are you brain-damaged or something? I told you last year to QUIT FREEPMAILING ME.

I have absolutely no interest in being penpals with a skulking little creep like you, who wants to whisper in people's ears instead of commenting publicly on threads like a normal person.

Now leave me alone forever. Got it?

[The Coopster]

I'm just wondering where all the McClintock supporters who called us everything from hicks to the antichrist for daring to speak a mildly supportive word about Arnie are.

Some of them are probably here already, being smug and hoping that memories are short. Or maybe they won't care how stupid they look.

[Spyder]

I just hope this serves as an example to the "death before electability" crowd. 'Tis much better to have a so-called RINO in office than Gray Davis.

[SierraWasp]

"Lincoln once wrote that the only thing worse than paying off a large debt was being forced to pay off a larger one; exactly so."

[Carry_Okie]

Some of them are probably here already, being smug and hoping that memories are short. Or maybe they won't care how stupid they look.

So sorry, I decided to let you have a little fun. Too bad you had to fall to stupid posturing. Here you go:

So, you had to go so far as to find a World Socialists party rag in order to make Arnold look like a fiscal conservative?

There, happy now?

Given the list of Arnold's appointments, you're the one with a short memory.

[Amerigomag]

Amerigo, what would you do at this point?

Six things for sure almost immediately.

1)Use the bloody pulpit to pressure the feds into inforcing existing immigration law.

2)Use the bloody pulpit and the initative process to reform redistricting in California.

3)Use the bloody pulpit and the initiative process to repeal Prop 98.

4)Introduce another initiative, using the Prop 187 experience as a guide line, that substantially denies the public saftey net (education, health services and the legal system) to illegal aliens

5)Make an immediate, across the board, reduction in all public spending, including education, through the veto process, until the crisis has passed.

6)Return to the pre 1963 methods of funding and guiding public education. Return both the administration of and the tax revenues to support public education to the counties and local school boards. In other words, deny the Los Angeles School District access to the state general fund.

[MeekOneGOP]

:O)

[FairOpinion]

Good one!

Now you neet to do something similiar about Traitor Hillary.

Hillary to Troops: Support for War Fading
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1030675/posts

"In a demoralizing message to U.S. soldiers serving in Iraq, visiting New York Sen. Hillary Clinton told them that Americans back home are growing increasingly skeptical of President Bush's decision to send them into battle.

Describing two meetings with G.I.s over turkey dinners in Baghdad, Sen. Clinton told reporters later that soldiers wanted to know "how the people at home feel about what we are doing."

Clinton said she told the troops, "Americans are wholeheartedly proud of what you are doing but there are many questions at home about the (Bush) administration's policies."

She also suggested that the U.S. could eventually lose the war in Iraq, contending, "We have to exert all of our efforts militarily, but the outcome is not assured."

[FairOpinion]

"well that now makes the left agreeing with the right. "

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Doesn't it make you concerned to agree with the SOCIALISTS?

[Sabertooth]

Socialist are calling Arnold "right wing" now.

I clicked around on the website where you got this article, and found they describe Gray Davis much the same as they do Arnold...

...the vote reflected the anger and frustration of workers and middle-class people over the policies of the Davis administration and the failure of the Democrats to provide any answer to worsening social conditions and growing economic insecurity. Davis, a model of the so-called “centrist” Democrat, embodies the rightward shift of the party as a whole over the past quarter century.

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All that remains for the Democratic Party, its credibility shattered by its humiliation in the recall election, is to move further to the right and collaborate with the Republican governor in launching new attacks on the working class in California.
Lessons of the Democratic debacle in California
Barry Grey | 9 October 2003

I'll bet if I clicked around a little more, I'd find your World Socialists are also of the opinion Bill Clinton is on the right. Let's see...

Clinton offered as the greatest accomplishment of his administration the fact that next week he will submit to Congress the first balanced federal budget in more than 30 years. This announcement, and the bipartisan standing ovation that followed, deserves particular consideration. 

This celebration of budget austerity demonstrates how far the Democratic Party has shifted to the right, to the point where it now poses as the party of fiscal "orthodoxy" against Republican proposals to create a new deficit by cutting taxes for the wealthy even further.
Clinton’s State of the Union speech: The politics of illusion 
the Editorial Board | 31 January 1998

Yep. Only took two tries.

So, the folks at the World Socialist Website, whom you proudly proclaim call Arnold "right wing," also cite Gray Davis and Bill Clinton as examples of the rightward drift of the Democrats.

The Socialists have an odd threshhold for what it takes to be on the Right.

Not sure I agree with them.

[The Coopster]

My sole point is that there will certainly be people here championing Arnold that were here "back then" making all kinds of knee jerk statements/accusations to those who didn't agree 100 percent with their opinion.

There are also plenty of you here who will be every bit as crass now, and I can at least respect an unwavering opinion, whether I agree with it or not.

So, you had to go so far as to find a World Socialists party rag in order to make Arnold look like a fiscal conservative?

There, happy now?

Given the list of Arnold's appointments, you're the one with a short memory.

I said nothing about Arnolds place on the Left/Right scale. So I don't know what this point of your post is about, other than bitterness.

[FairOpinion]

Nice try.

But it's a long way from the way many here try to present it, that Arnold is NO different than Davis.

[StriperSniper]

Can anyone explain just exactly what "art-based therapy" is?

Overpaying the over educated to distribute paper and crayons.

[Sabertooth]

Nice try.

But it's a long way from the way many here try to present it, that Arnold is NO different than Davis.

Didn't say he was, but nice try.

I pointed out that taking a self-described socialist's word for who is "right wing" probably isn't edifying.

[MeekOneGOP]

Thanks !

Yep ! I've been all over that thread since I first saw it. Hitlery is totally despicable ! Unbelievable !!

I have thought about making something up on hitlery similar to that. Somewhere down the road, it will come together, I think ...

[FairOpinion]

Hillary in a tank like Jane Fonda?

Hillary arm in arm with Saddam?

Saddam's Fedayeen cheering Hillary's statements?

All of the above?

And I am sure there are many other good possibilities...

[softengine]

... Maybe the socialists who are complaining the loudest about the cuts in spending will decide to get up off of their collectivist asses, and go do something for the people who they claim will be "victimized" by the cuts. Start collecting money and charitible contributions for the needy... Yeah, right... That will happen. Socialists are the most selfish and greedy people there are... By using the government to collect money and redistribute it, they don't feel any need to actually contribute themselves. And they generally don't. It seems that they're only generous with other people's money.

I wish I had this on a bumper sticker. I'd drive around Boulder with my lights flashing and horn blaring 24 x 7.

[Dante3]

Martin Sheen lost out. He is supporting Dean and worked for the "No on recall" campaign in Calif. He said Davis was recalled because "his image wasn't sexy."

Sheen also said that he didn't get into a "mix about Arnold" because he didn't want to offend the Kennedy family. Sheen is such a moron.

[MeekOneGOP]

Excellent ! Thanks ! I espcially like the ones about ...

--Hillary arm in arm with Saddam?

--Saddam's Fedayeen cheering Hillary's statements?

You've got the wheels turning now ! Thanks !!

I have a couple of errand to run right now, but when I get back, I might just start working on this ! haha !

[FairOpinion]

Great!

Looking forward to your Hillary-creation. :)

Please be sure to ping me to it -- I wouldn't want to miss it!