[risk]

Interesting! So the urge to be free is not a meme because it's inborn. Value for American style representative could still be considered a meme, though, couldn't it? Why would *all* memes have to be bad? Pro American war propaganda from WWII and the Cold War elicited memes, didn't they? Yet the purpose of instilling a willingness to resist the Axis and the threat of communism was effective in preserving our freedom from *bad* memes.

I'll have to think about this and continue exchanging thoughts with you.

[samtheman]

It is an interesting subject. For me, the problem with the subject is, it's too easy to label things as memes that aren't memes. Not all widely accepted ideas are memes.