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Whose Iraq "PR" Trip? Hillary's visit was more of a "stunt" than Bush's
Slate ^ | , Nov. 30, 2003 | Mickey Kaus

Posted on 12/02/2003 5:25:40 AM PST by Maria S

Dan Feldman, a National Security Council director under former President Bill Clinton, called the trip a "great PR stunt ... yet another in a long line of photo ops that don't say anything concrete about improving security and what our long-term plans are."

How was Bush's trip just a "great PR stunt" (using Iraq "as his stage") and Hillary Clinton's trip not just a less-great PR stunt using Iraq as her stage?

Both politicians met with Iraqis as well as American troops. Both discussed substance. The difference is that Bush has a central role in the actual decision-making structure while Hillary's trip was a classic self-promotional effort by one of 100 senators. ...

And, pace Howard Owens, there was something unseemly about Clinton's inability to refrain from sniping at Bush until she returned home. It's not that she violated the hoary bit of etiquette that says a U.S. politician should never criticize a U.S. president on foreign soil. I've never completely understood that rule. If Hillary had gone to Iraq and flat-out blasted Bush, that would have been fine by me. The problem is she smarmily wanted to have it both ways, pretending her trip was in part a morale-building visit to the troops ("I wanted to come to Iraq to let the troops know about the great job they're doing") while she griped about the mission the troops were on. Here's a home state paper account:

The morale of the troops, she said, "is very high," but she said the military personnel with whom she spoke in meetings and during "two turkey dinners" wanted to know "how the people at home feel about what we are doing."

" "Americans are wholeheartedly proud of what you are doing,' " Clinton said she replied, " "but there are many questions at home about the (Bush) administration's policies.' "

Bet that fired them right up! ...

Update: Howard Owens and Bill Herbert take issue with the above post, largely on the grounds that a) what Hillary said was accurate--there are "many questions" at home and b) "military people aren't too fragile to be given straight talk" or to hear Hillary's criticisms of current U.S. policies. All true, but that's not the point. Even if military people are quite strong enough to hear antiwar criticism, surely at some point that criticism, however frankly expressed, can't be portrayed as morale building. If you went to Iraq and told the troops, say, that they were doing the bidding of Halliburton and imposing alien Western values in a way calculated to increase terrorism directed at Americans, that might be admirable "straight talk" but would be hard to honestly portray as letting "the troops know about the great job they're doing."

That's not the anti-Bush criticism Hillary made, of course. But what she did say struck me as neither as supportive nor as honest as it should have been. It would be one thing to tell the troops, "We're all proud of you, though there are many questions at home about whether we are withdrawing too fast or too slow, or becoming bogged down." It's another to say there are "many questions about the administration's policies."

The first is the perspective of a citizen. The second is the perspective of a Democratic partisan. The first says that we're all in this together and we're all worried and we can disagree on how to do it and this is how I would improve things. The second says "this isn't America's policy, it's Bush's policy." It implies that whenever a policy comes in for criticism from voters, Hillary--who voted for the war, after all--will disavow any connection to it.

This search for partisan advantage carried over into Hillary's other criticisms of Bush. Here, in particular, is a news report with Clinton comments Bill Herbert says are "constructive":

As she has on each leg of her three-day trip, Clinton questioned the White House battle plan for restoring order and stability to Iraq and Afghanistan.

"It's going to take more time than has been allotted for the process to take hold," said Clinton, referring to the July deadline by which Bush aims to transfer power back to the struggling Iraqis.

"I don't think we should be setting artificial timelines as this is a very challenging undertaking and we need to work with our Iraqi counterparts and make sure that the steps that are being taken are going to work," added Clinton, who is due back in Washington today.

It seems to me this is not constructive. It's almost entirely a partisan cheap shot. "Artificial timelines" can be very useful, both in forcing action and making it clear that something --i.e., the transfer of sovereignty--will happen. I think Hillary knows this. The Bush administration is clearly struggling with the need for a quick transition, on the one hand, and the need for "the process to take hold" on the other. I think Hillary knows this too. If the process hasn't taken hold by next June, the Bushies may let the deadline slip--and Hillary knows that. But in the meantime, denouncing the "artificial" quality of the timeline is a nice, safe criticism for Hillary to make, along with all her other safe third-order process-criticisms of the war.

If Bush hadn't set out a timeline, don't you think Hillary would be criticizing him for that--'We have no clear plan for restoring Iraq, no timeline. We are just muddling ahead,' etc? Hillary's criticism isn't a real criticism or an honest criticism, it's a strategic, partisan criticism, and it's the sort of un-straight talk she should drop when she's talking to the troops in a war zone.

I should add that until Hillary's Iraq trip, I--like many Democrats surveying the current presidential candidates--had been feeling strange new respect for her. Now I remember why I used to loathe her. ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: hillary; iraq; thanksgivingvisit; tokyohillary

1 posted on 12/02/2003 5:25:41 AM PST by Maria S
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To: Maria S
I think most people can see through Hillary's trip to Afghanistan. Most people know that Queen Hillary could care less about the troops.
2 posted on 12/02/2003 5:27:50 AM PST by Destructor
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To: Destructor
Democrats are really placing our troops in danger. If I was of the Bathists, I would never give in until after the election to see if Bush could be defeated and a "friendlier and kinder" administration is installed. If this subject is broached, the Democrats huff and puff and say they are not putting our troops at risk and they are being "patriotic" by invoking their right to say anything they wish. I want to remind them, you can call a camel a horse but when all is said and done, it remains a camel! Their rhetoric is a camel and not a horse!
3 posted on 12/02/2003 5:36:44 AM PST by AZFolks
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To: Maria S
This is the woman who demanded that the White House staff not speak to her unless spoken to, and that they scurry into offices and close the doors whenever she made an appearance.

I'm sure she loathes having to interact with the miltary servants, too.
4 posted on 12/02/2003 5:52:07 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: Destructor
Jim Mikeleshiewski (sp.?), NBC Pentagon coverer, was just on Imus & said that his contacts within the Pentagon told him that they thought Her Highness Ms. Rodham was bold & was relating what soldiers (officers/NCOs/Enlisted) told her of the shortcomings in skill field mix (e.g., need for policemen & civil affairs types versus infantry/tankers). They thought (sayed Mikeleschiewski - no wonder Tom Bwwokaw has so much trouble saying his name - lucky he is not the meteowwowwoligist) Hil was brave and right-on in saying what she did. Need to rethink this? Could it be she was being honest rather than fully political? Doesn't seem possible.
5 posted on 12/02/2003 5:55:44 AM PST by NutmegDevil
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To: Maria S
I should add that until Hillary's Iraq trip, I--like many Democrats surveying the current presidential candidates--had been feeling strange new respect for her.

WHY?

I have to compliment Kaus, though, on being able to correctly perceive her through the prism of this overseas jaunt. But, Lord, I do not understand what it was he saw before it that had him feeling respect for her.

6 posted on 12/02/2003 6:04:24 AM PST by cyncooper ("The evil is in plain sight")
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To: NutmegDevil
Could it be she was being honest rather than fully political?

No, it could not.

7 posted on 12/02/2003 6:06:27 AM PST by cyncooper ("The evil is in plain sight")
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To: AZFolks
In 1968 voters chose Nixon (who Wm. Safire tells us never said he had a secret plan for getting us out of Viet Nam) over Hubert Humphrey. When the Viet Nam situation got even less popular by 1972, Nixon was re-elected when the super-peacenik Geo. McGovern was the alternative. I don't think peaceniks (especially petulant retraitors?) are viable contenders for the U.S. presidency. ['nother topic - Imagine Howard Dean calling George W. Bush petulant? Like Bobby Kennedy said (paraphrased) - take your own most glaring shortcoming(s) and vehemently & repeatedly accuse your opponent of that.]
8 posted on 12/02/2003 6:07:30 AM PST by NutmegDevil
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To: Maria S
Again I shout! WATCH FOR THE WITCH IN THE PANT SUIT! SHE'S COMEING FOR OUR CHILDREN OUR OLD PEOPLE AND MOST OF ALL OUR SOULS!!!!!!!!
OK the writer in me got the best of me LOL
9 posted on 12/02/2003 6:08:24 AM PST by DAPFE8900
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To: Maria S
She was on TV yesterday insinuating that Bush's timetable for turning over political control to Iraqis by the end of June 2004 was designed for political reasons--to happen before the November 2004 election.

Dick Morris was on Fox & Friends this morning slamming Hillary for her remarks to the troops.

10 posted on 12/02/2003 6:50:11 AM PST by Verginius Rufus
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To: Maria S
If Bush hadn't set out a timeline, don't you think Hillary would be criticizing him for that--'We have no clear plan for restoring Iraq, no timeline. We are just muddling ahead,' etc? Hillary's criticism isn't a real criticism or an honest criticism, it's a strategic, partisan criticism, and it's the sort of un-straight talk she should drop when she's talking to the troops in a war zone.

Mickey Kaus, calling her out. She is the mighty wretched one, whose behavior is just like her (alleged and for show only) spouse. She has to have it both ways on nearly every issue,( as you all know, being a Liberal is easy because 'wanting to appear compassionate and likeable is easier than defending moral absolutes and taking a stand'), play the partisan cheap-shot at any moment, even in front of Military troops on foreign soil. It doesn't get any more brazen than that,though this is just her latest 'slam' against America. Hopefully America in general will take off their blinders and acknowledge how crass/boorish/uncouth (pick one) a human she really is.

11 posted on 12/02/2003 11:24:08 AM PST by Pagey (Hillary Rotten is a Smug and Holier- than- Thou Socialist)
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