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Posted on 12/06/2003 6:12:49 AM PST by SMGFan
Willing victim was eaten while still alive
Self-confessed cannibal advertised online for a victim and a man showed up, ready to be mutilated and eaten before death
BERLIN - The advertisement on the Internet read: 'Seeking well-built man, 18-30 years old for slaughter.'
The man who answered it was killed and eaten by German computer expert Armin Meiwes, 42, described by his lawyer as a 'gentleman of the old school'.
Yesterday, Meiwes went on trial in a case of sexually inspired cannibalism so perplexing it could make legal history. He has confessed to the gruesome episode, and is charged with 'murder for sexual satisfaction'.
It is the first case of its kind in Germany. The problem is whether such consensual killing is really murder, as cannibalism is not a crime there. The trial began with the court hearing how horror films had fuelled his childhood fantasies of eating school friends, the BBC said.
Meiwes, a former soldier, actually received several replies to the Internet advertisement he placed two years ago. Some were hoaxes.
Another man broke off contact after Meiwes sent him photos of the specially-built killing room in his 44-room home, said a report in the Independent on Sunday.
Eventually, a well-paid Siemens microchip engineer, Bernd-Juergen Brandes, wrote back: 'I offer myself to you and will let you dine from my live body. Not butchery, dining!! Whoever REALLY wants to do it will need a REAL VICTIM!!'
He then took one day off from his job, bought a one-way train ticket and met Meiwes in his home town of Rotenburg in March 2001.
Meiwes claims that Brandes demanded to be mutilated and killed the same day, and even fasted so that his intestines were clear, according to an interview he gave to the German news magazine, Stern. Brandes took drugs to desensitise himself to the pain, and Meiwes got a kitchen knife, and turned on his video camera. Parts of the two-hour video are expected to be shown at the trial.
Meiwes first sliced off Brandes' penis, fried it, seasoned it with salt, pepper and garlic. Then he shared it with its former owner. Stern reported Meiwes saying the dish was 'tough and unpalatable'.
Meiwes' lawyer Harald Ermel said it took the victim nearly 10 hours to bleed to death and that he had urged Meiwes repeatedly to keep on cutting him. Meiwes cut up the body and stored parts in his freezer. 'He believes he ate about 20kg and there was about 10kg left over,' said Mr Ermel. 'He defrosted it little by little and ate it.'
Afterwards, Meiwes searched the Internet for more victims. The Independent said four more men answered. Meiwes wrapped each one in cellophane, and labelled each of their body parts like cold cuts.
But they were only interested in role-playing, not really being killed, so Meiwes let them go. He was arrested last December, after a tip-off from someone who had spotted another of his online ads. The prosecution will push for a life sentence on the grounds that Meiwes is too dangerous to ever be released. -- Reuters, AFP
TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: cannibalism; cultureofdeath; darwinianethics; murder; nazi; perversion; sexualperversion
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posted on
12/06/2003 6:12:49 AM PST
by
SMGFan
To: SMGFan

"Fritz ist Freund, NOT FOOD!" <|:P~
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posted on
12/06/2003 6:16:41 AM PST
by
martin_fierro
(Ohhh... ehhh... ¿Peeka Panish?)
To: SMGFan
In ten years, the US Supreme Court will find sexually inspired cannibalism to be yet another fundamental right...
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posted on
12/06/2003 6:23:26 AM PST
by
07055
To: SMGFan
Oh I can`t stand it, I am getting so turned on! Where can I apply! Only in Germany.."Sprockets Dieter! Would you like to eat my monkey?" I think this explains their aversion to taking out Saddam, "Oh please! Ve look up to men like him!" I was in Germany about 10 years ago, and there`s something with those people, must be something in the water, people scolding you if you "do not properly cross ze street at ze crossing lane! you are not in order!" It`s like, Zieg Heil, shut up and mind your own business Hansel.
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posted on
12/06/2003 6:25:39 AM PST
by
metalboy
(I`m still waiting for the mass protests against Al Qaida and Saddam)
To: SMGFan
This should not be read by anyone.... Why the heck did I click it?
yuck.
To: SMGFan
A story like that's gotta be true.
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posted on
12/06/2003 6:32:23 AM PST
by
Buck72
To: 07055
Of course it's a right. Why wouldn't it be. You must be a cannibleophob. Some people are born to be eaten by other people. It's all genetics. I mean, who would chose to be eaten alive? Nobody ever "choses" a lifestyle that falls well outside social norms. Actually, I think these folks, and the people who eat them fall under the American's with Disabilities act. I hope one of the Democrat candidates proposes government funding to provide killing rooms for these long neglected souls. And perhaps the FDA can research the nutritional value of human genitiles, and whether they can be considered part of a well balanced diet.
7
posted on
12/06/2003 6:33:55 AM PST
by
Rokke
To: SMGFan
Cannibles and victims should be allowed to marry.
8
posted on
12/06/2003 6:36:44 AM PST
by
Aeronaut
(In my humble opinion, the new expression for backing down from a fight should be called 'frenching')
To: SMGFan
How could pro-choicers argue with this arrangement? Sounds like they were both consenting adults.
To: 07055
In ten years, the US Supreme Court will find sexually inspired cannibalism to be yet another fundamental right... There was a time when I would've chuckled at such an apparent sarcastic comment without a bit of trepidation...nowadays I fear it's prescience. (she said with a nervous laugh)
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posted on
12/06/2003 6:51:28 AM PST
by
LucyJo
To: Rokke
Some people are born to be eaten by other people. It's all genetics.They say that about suicide --- if it's okay to kill yourself, it should be okay not to want to go to waste if you do. At least allowing a cannibal to feast on you means you weren't a total failure.
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posted on
12/06/2003 6:56:01 AM PST
by
FITZ
To: SMGFan
"in his home town of Rotenburg" Rotenburg? ROTFL! Sounds like a low budget sci-fi movie, furthur proving that truth is stranger than fiction.
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posted on
12/06/2003 7:00:36 AM PST
by
sweetliberty
(Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.)
To: SMGFan; Servant of the 9; Darksheare; null and void; Mo1
I would HATE to be one of the people that had to watch that video! I'm afraid I would lose it. This is really WAY beyond sick.
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posted on
12/06/2003 7:05:30 AM PST
by
sweetliberty
(Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.)
To: SMGFan
In her inimitable wisdom, Barbra Streisand sang about this years ago...
People,
People who eat people,
Are the luckiest people in the world
We're children, eating other children
And yet letting a grown-up pride
Hide all the need inside
Acting more like children than children
Lovers are very special people
They're the luckiest people in the world
With one person one very special person
A feeling deep in your soul
Says you were half now you're whole
No more hunger and thirst
But first be a person who eats people
People who eat people
Are the luckiest people in the world
With one person one very special person
No more hunger and thirst
But first be a person who eats people
People who eat people
Are the luckiest people in the world...
Always one of my favorites!
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posted on
12/06/2003 7:14:58 AM PST
by
WayneM
To: HairOfTheDog
ROFL!!!!!!!!! Can't you see the books and movies already?
To: Rokke
Cannibles and victims should be
allowed to marry.In Vermont and Canada, Jeffrey
Dahlmer would only be guilty of bigamy.
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posted on
12/06/2003 7:22:30 AM PST
by
putupon
(Great Society®,Compassionate Conservatism®,HillaryCare®; just weasel wording for "Socialism".)
To: SMGFan
described by his lawyer as a 'gentleman of the old school'He must look like Anthony Hopkins.
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posted on
12/06/2003 7:23:12 AM PST
by
squidly
To: SMGFan
If the victim had been Gerhard Schroeder, I would vote to acquit. :)
To: SMGFan
File under "How many times has this happened to you?"
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posted on
12/06/2003 7:34:26 AM PST
by
zook
To: SMGFan
I like to grok my friends.
To: SMGFan
Makes you want to think twice before telling people to 'bite me'.
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posted on
12/06/2003 7:49:00 AM PST
by
Riley
To: Riley
Meiwes first sliced off Brandes' penis, fried it, seasoned it with salt, pepper and garlic. Then he shared it with its former owner. Stern reported Meiwes saying the dish was 'tough and unpalatable'.Two words: Pressure Cooker.
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posted on
12/06/2003 8:01:23 AM PST
by
Hillary's Lovely Legs
(I have a plan. I need a dead monkey, empty liquor bottles and a vacuum cleaner.)
To: SMGFan
Meiwes first sliced off Brandes' penis, fried it, seasoned it with salt, pepper and garlic. Then he shared it with its former owner. Stern reported Meiwes saying the dish was 'tough and unpalatable'.
Phew, thanks to the internet I'll know what parts of the body to skip when I turn to cannibalism.
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posted on
12/06/2003 8:05:09 AM PST
by
lelio
To: SMGFan
So is it the NOW position that this sicko had the absolute right to do what he wanted with his own body?
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posted on
12/06/2003 8:07:49 AM PST
by
Spok
To: SMGFan
Stern reported Meiwes saying the dish was 'tough ...'Still "tough"? It was great to be 18...
To: WayneM
I had to suspend my utter contempt for babs to imagine that in her voice.
ps: you owe me a new monitor!
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posted on
12/06/2003 8:13:12 AM PST
by
Aeronaut
(In my humble opinion, the new expression for backing down from a fight should be called 'frenching')
To: SMGFan
The problem is whether such consensual killing is really murder Unless German statute differs considerably from American, "murder" is defined as homicide with malice aforethought. I don't think anyone would have too much trouble proving the homicide part, but the malice might be a little tougher.
I think it would be much easier to just put a bullet in this guy's head and save the aggravation.
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posted on
12/06/2003 8:20:49 AM PST
by
IronJack
To: SMGFan
Ok, I've read this story several times. How much drugs would a man have to take to have his penis amputated, without dropping dead from the pain? This story is unbelievable. I'm not saying it didn't happen, it's just that I cannot comprehend this.
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posted on
12/06/2003 8:26:02 AM PST
by
TheSpottedOwl
(I'd rather have dead rats in my walls, than Hillary for President.,)
To: SMGFan
Ah!, finally, the answer to:
Is the smell coming from France with a west wind too dangerous for a civilized mind to bear ?
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posted on
12/06/2003 8:43:05 AM PST
by
hosepipe
To: sweetliberty
Way beyond sick doesn't begin to describe it.
Anyone who answers an ad for victims is a moron who deserves what he gets.
Anyone who places an ad for victims deserves to be executed.
But, this will not happen, after all, the criminal has more rights than anyone.
Several courts world wide have pretty much said so.
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posted on
12/06/2003 9:38:08 AM PST
by
Darksheare
("We're Wombat Artillery! We go anywhere, dig wherever we want, and we look cute & fuzzy too!")
To: Darksheare
Why Dark, this is too macabre even for you. I knew I'd out you one of these days as a regular guy who happens to enjoy having shock value.

Careful or next thing you know folks will start calling you a metrosexual.
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posted on
12/06/2003 9:43:47 AM PST
by
sweetliberty
(Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.)
To: sweetliberty
Well, actually, I'm a closet Gothic that dresses rather conservatively to blend in with the normal humans.
Yes, this is too macabre for me, eating people is such an unfriendly act.
Torture rack, 550 paracord cuffs and silk wrist ties yes.
That's do-able and fun since no-one dies from it.
But eating someone?
Even I have limits.
Regular guy?
*cough*
Never.
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posted on
12/06/2003 9:55:56 AM PST
by
Darksheare
("We're Wombat Artillery! We go anywhere, dig wherever we want, and we look cute & fuzzy too!")
To: Darksheare
LOL!
33
posted on
12/06/2003 9:57:33 AM PST
by
sweetliberty
(Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.)
To: SMGFan
What cannibals do in the privacy of their own kitchens is nobody else's business!
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posted on
12/06/2003 10:42:23 AM PST
by
Gritty
("why amend the Constitution when judges won't read the Constitution we already have?--Ann Coulter)
To: SMGFan
He then took one day off from his jobJust one day, eh? He didn't feel like taking the whole week off to get eaten, or maybe even quit his job?
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posted on
12/06/2003 10:47:30 AM PST
by
Dog Gone
To: martin_fierro
Sophisticated Euro-bump.
To: SMGFan
I wonder if he enjoyed his feast with a side dish of sauerKraut?
Leni
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posted on
12/06/2003 4:11:01 PM PST
by
MinuteGal
(Florida Freepers! Go to Fla. chapter forum for important announcements on chapter re-organization!)
To: SMGFan
If this hadn't actually happened, Thomas Harris would have had to invent it.
Actually, on second thought, he sort of did, in "Hannibal"...except Hannibal ate pieces off the other head.
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posted on
12/06/2003 4:15:25 PM PST
by
RichInOC
(That part of the book was enough to put me off both buying it and seeing the movie.)
To: SMGFan
I am stunned beyond words.
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posted on
12/06/2003 4:19:36 PM PST
by
ladyinred
(The Left have blood on their hands!)
To: TheSpottedOwl
How much drugs would a man have to take to have his penis amputated, without dropping dead from the pain? I don't know, let's just hope he didn't buy them illegally, or from more than one doctor.
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posted on
12/06/2003 4:25:25 PM PST
by
ladyinred
(The Left have blood on their hands!)
To: SMGFan
"Meiwes first sliced off Brandes' penis, fried it, seasoned it with salt, pepper and garlic."Mummm! Mummm! Good! PENIS-SNITZEL
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posted on
12/06/2003 4:34:32 PM PST
by
Spunky
(This little tag just keeps following me where ever I go.)
To: ladyinred
How much drugs would a man have to take to have his penis amputated, without dropping dead from the pain? I don't know, let's just hope he didn't buy them illegally, or from more than one doctor.
Exactly! Lol, what a sad world this is :/
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posted on
12/07/2003 4:36:10 PM PST
by
TheSpottedOwl
(I'd rather have dead rats in my walls, than Hillary for President.,)
To: Spunky
Hey it doesn't take like mushroom at all!
To: SMGFan
That's right folks,
YOU READ IT! YOU CAN'T UN-READ IT!
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posted on
12/07/2003 4:47:20 PM PST
by
Steel Wolf
(Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, son)
To: SMGFan
'Seeking well-built man, 18-30 years old for slaughter.'
 |
|
Considering some of the women I've known, this sounds more like a marriage proposal. |
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posted on
12/07/2003 4:55:37 PM PST
by
Fintan
(When does liberal season open and what's the bag limit?)
To: Fintan
Yeah, I knew I shouldn't have answered that ad.
46
posted on
12/07/2003 5:00:34 PM PST
by
lavrenti
("Tell your momma and your poppa, sometimes good guys don't wear white." The Standells)
To: SMGFan
47
posted on
12/07/2003 5:00:51 PM PST
by
Kaslin
To: SMGFan
Did he serve the penis with a side of fava beans and a nice chianti?
48
posted on
12/07/2003 5:02:57 PM PST
by
Rainbow Rising
(Flag on the moon. How did it get there?)
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