Trashing the Reagans, targeting Bush

Houston Chronicle ^ | 12/5/03 | Robert D. Novak

[somemoreequalthanothers]

I thought "The Hunt For Red October" was a conservative themed movie, made ironic by starring Alec Baldwin.

[Burkeman1]

Yes- Alec Baldwin is a Jackass. But God save me- he is a good actor. Same with Sean Penn. I enjoy their performances. I think we should take the Roman point of view when it comes to Actors. We applaud their performances but hold them in low regard when it comes to society and their rank. Actors in Rome were considered scum even if rich and no well born person would want to be seen with them.

[dwills]

my south carolina and lousiana roots aside, depicting the confederacy in a positive light isn't conservative

it's traitorous propganda -- this is FREE Republic

[Burkeman1]

This Is Free Republic. I am from Massachusetts. My ancestors on my father's side came from County Mayo during the post famine years in the late 1840's. My Mother's side came in the early 20th century. We never cared about the South or about "Blacks" (does that make us rascists?)

But yet many Irish were taken from the boat they sailed into America on and then put on the front line in a war that had nothing to do with them. Traitorous?

1814- the first state to seriously consider Secession was? Massachusetts! Half my heart hopes we do again.

[billbears]

depicting the confederacy in a positive light isn't conservative

I beg to differ. The Confederate States of America wanted to maintain the Federal Republic of states and limit the federal government. However those in the north did not harbor the same view

The establishment of national banks, building loss leader railroads, internal improvements, and printing money at the federal level. Those were conservative for the time? Illegal suspension of habeas corpus, no congressional declaration of war, high taxation of one region of your own nation of states through a outrageously high protectionist tariff. That's conservative?

[bdeaner]

Who would play Monica?

Hmmm... I can't think of anybody fat enough to play the part.

[Swordmaker]

Now who would play Monica?

Dan

NAH!

Dan would never fit into the blue dress!

[bdeaner]

I haven't seen most of those -- they're before my time.

I tried to think of more recent stuff, within the past ten years, and not many films come to mind. A few might be considered to have "conservative" perspective:

--The Crime of Father Amaro
--We Were Soldiers
--Black Hawk Down
--The Apostle
--Braveheart
--Unforgiven

[LibKill]

I would love to see a genuine portrayal of Reagan set to film -- Reagan: A Life in Letters would be a fantastic basis for a script. But who is going to write, produce and direct it when all of Hollywood is a cesspool of Leftist whackos? Anyone, anyone?

"Tis a consumation devoutly to be wished."

If I was directing that film the major moment would be this:

"Mr. Gorbachev, TEAR DOWN THIS WALL!"

That was the beginning of the end for the old evil empire.

[Burkeman1]

I agree with "The Apostle" and "Unforgiven". Both extremely touching and Christian movies at their core. I don't think of films that Glorify war as being conservative, thus I don't think "We were soldiers", "Black Hawk Down", or "Braveheart" are really conservative. They may serve nationalistic or militeristic ends but no real conservative end.

My two cents.

[bdeaner]

Good point, but I don't see "Black Hawk Down" or "We Were Soldiers" as glorying war. I think they very explicitly detail the brutality of war, and in that light, call us to respect and pay tribute to those who have faught and died for our freedoms. "Saving Private Ryan," on the other hand, is a movie that glorifies war, and that's why I didn't include it. "Braveheart" on the other hand is a film, not about war so much as it is about freedom and the price we have to pay for that freedom, which does not come easily. My two cents.

[Burkeman1]

Considering that I own every film from "Black Hawk Down" to "Saving Private Ryan" that you mentioned I am not one to talk! I don't think they are "conservative" but they are great pieces of film work and they honor those who served in such similiar engagements.

[billbears]

I agree with "The Apostle" and "Unforgiven"

Have to admit 'The Apostle' had me going for a bit there. Was wondering what the heck Robert Duvall was doing in it and where it was going. But it turned out as you said and it really spoke to me. As for 'Unforgiven', I can see that looking back on it. Can't say as I've ever looked at it that way before

[CyberAnt]

Mel Gibson might be willing to do an accurate portrayal.

[CyberAnt]

Not only that .. I'm reading LEGACY, and the whole first chapter is about Clinton's character .. STUNNING insight from the author.

[CyberAnt]

You do know Babs blames Reagan for her son having AIDS. Why .. I have no idea .. Reagan was just handy I guess.

[Chu Gary]

"The Reagans provides a great example of the next movie to be made. How about if Ann Coulter writes 'The Clintons'. Laura Ingraham can play Hilary, and Rush can play Bill. Think that'd be any less biased or agenda driven? "

ROFL!

[Chu Gary]

"Who would play Monica?

Hmmm... I can't think of anybody fat enough to play the part."

How about Rosie O'Donuts

[bdeaner]

Gibson would be the only Hollywood person I can think of to do it, though he's not exactly "Hollywood," per se. He IS a huge box office draw. Notice I included Braveheart and We Were Soldiers in my list -- both Icon Productions, Mel's production company, the same one making The Passion.

Come to think of it, I think Signs belongs in that list, too. Another Gibson role, though not his production company.

[bdeaner]

It's pretty common for people to blame others in these kinds of situations, because it is easier to feel anger than to feel despair -- and this type of undifferentiated rage is common among liberals, I think, as is evident all over the place.