What's the New "Pager" Icon About? (Vanity Request for Help)

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[kitkat]

Yep, Nana, it finally worked. Guess John Rob did some more magic. And it IS great. Thanks for asking.

[RJayneJ]

Mine says: "Nothing new."

[John Robinson]

Hey! That's pretty cool.

Now that I have you here, I could use some help. I want a page layout with content on the left and a sidebar on the right, like we have now. I want long unbroken lines of content to overflow the sidebar rather than pushing the content's right margin (and the sidebar) off screen, a misfortune of my current layout, as exemplified in a page of My Comments with reallylonglinesofpointlesstextthatdoesnotwrapbecausesomeidiotdidnotusespacesnorhashyphensoranythingelsethatwouldcausealinebreak.

Picture this:

content area here  +---------+
this content wraps | sidebar |
blah blah blah     | sidebar |
areallylonglinethatoverflowsrightoffthescreen
and continues here | sidebar |
and here etc       | sidebar |
and here etc etc   +---------+
and then we have normal flow
out here like this.

I think I want a floating DIV. I made my sidebar such, but now I get this:

content area here  +---------+
this content wraps | sidebar |
blah blah blah     | sidebar |
                   | sidebar |
                   | sidebar |
                   | sidebar |
                   +---------+
areallylonglinethatoverflowsrightoffthescreen
and continues here and here
etc and here etc etc and then 
we have normal flow out here 
like this.

Leaving a large (maybe very large) span of vertical whitespace. The reallylongline and the rest of the content display only after the float has ended.

Is what I want possible? Worse yet, I require the solution to be compatible with MSIE 4x-6x, NS4, Mozilla, Opera, and WebTV.

[John Robinson]

Also, do you know a CSS trick that allows only NS4 to see a portion a style sheet? I've seen the method documented elsewhere, it leverages a bug in NS4, maybe in the comment handling, allowing attributes to be specified to overcome other NS4 bugs.

I'm trying to display an image in a margin, I've set a negative margin on the image and that works in all browsers except NS4, which doesn't seem to handle negative margins correctly.

I want:

(margin)
      :
[IMG] : Content here
      : and here
      : etc
      :

NS4 puts the IMG ontop of the "and" in the content.

[deport]

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1035558/posts?page=236#236

Ding a Lings..........

[GOPJ]

bump

[Swordmaker]

Is your browser java enabled? It's working fine for me.

Doesn't work for me... my Mac Safari browser allows me to turn off pop-ups. The slight benefit of having a pop-up notifier of new messages or posts is not sufficient for me to go back to accepting pop-up ads and infinite window openings.

If I turn pop-ups on, it works.

[John Robinson]

Answered my own question. Cairo Hack.

[Old Professer]

Back about 1995, Readers Digest had a Daffynition of Door:

Something a dog is always on the wrong side of.

[BluSky]

.....so I'm talking to my wife tonight, in my other life, and she's telling me what she ate for dinner and all...... and how nothing is agreeing with her.....and how frequently she has been going to the bathroom and all ..... and how the gas-x, tums and pepto-bismal wasn't cutting the job, so to speak......and perhaps it's just 'cramps' or whatever ......and now she's on her way upstairs to lay down, you know, sleep it off, I guess,.....and then I put two and two togather......and I figure out that EVERY time I pushed the speaker icon button thingy.......well, you know .......she would.....well......fart! .......Go figure!!!

Cool!!!.....I wonder if I can get it to work on the dog!!!!! Tell me again......What program do I need to open, the one for the dog......

[Amelia]

so I'm talking to my wife tonight, in my other life, and she's telling me what she ate for dinner and all...... and how nothing is agreeing with her.....

I think she's trying to tell you she's pregnant. ;-)

[smith288]

Answered my own question. Cairo Hack.

For both questions??

[Tunehead54]

In Netscape 7.1 I get an offer to d/l a plug-in which when requested is not found. Testing MSIE 6.02 now. Stand back ...

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[John Robinson]

Oops, I should have typed "Caio Hack", I had stuffed a frivolous R in it. And no, Caio only answered my Netscape question, I still don't know how to overflow long lines over a float (or anything else for that matter.)

(And Caio's hack works as expected, I was able to fix the errant NS4 issue. Yippie!)

[smith288]

Did you try the z-Index attribute?

[smith288]

Did you try the z-Index attribute?

I should probably expand on that a little...

z-Index will tell CSS who is on top of what so you want to make sure the left side is more important in terms of the z-index so the words will appear over it. The only problem with floating divs is the different resolutions people uses will complain about the placement of it. There are still people using 640x400 and they would be irate having a BN box on the right taking up half their screen.

I guess I don't see how using two columns set at a definite width would allow for the problem we are having right now.

[John Robinson]

Well, I don't know what I'm doing either. :-P I'll play around with a fixed width DIV. I also discovered a CSS attribute to affect overflow, I am hopeful.

Thanks for the tip on z-Index, I knew of its existence but didn't realize it could be useful in this situation. Blah.

BTW, WebTV is 544x372, even though there are about 5 people here that use WebTV, they're all very vocal :-). I gave 'em a way to turn off the sidebar, I don't know if they use it, but I plan to promote the function to just above the sidebar of every page. WebTV doesn't understand my floating DIV, so they'd need to turn it off right away. Uhg.

[John Robinson]

Two Column Layout Overflow Fixed

Should be compatible with all browsers. I use JavaScript to hide the sidebar from WebTV. I assume I can count on WebTV to always provide JavaScript. I assume there is no way to disable it.

The hacks probably hurt forward-compatibility. :-( I'll probably do the Right Thing™ and end up with bunches of different style sheets for bunches of different browsers. :-(

My source code is well documented. I hate HTML/CSS.

[mystery-ak]

I guess there is no way that people with webtv(me) can use the pager?

[smith288]

you should be able to with this

http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/notify?spoken=no

but im not sure how it works when you click on the link...does WebTV allow for more than one window.