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DOW 10,000!
December 8, 2003

Posted on 12/09/2003 6:38:58 AM PST by RWR8189

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To: AntiGuv
the Nasdaq sold off (profit taking) after it hit the benchmark. It has been on a much higher run than the Dow. The dow "type" stocks will benefit more from a higher Euro and lower dollar scenario. It may not close above 10,000, but it will be there by the end of he week.
41 posted on 12/09/2003 6:54:02 AM PST by amexmike
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To: William McKinley
Yes, it does. Even if the market begins to tank in December, it's still not likely to fall into the range I was anticipating for the turn-of-the-year until sometime in February or March (since I was at least 2 months off). Note that I still haven't abandoned my basic forecast, merely shifted the timeframes. It's tough to correctly time a bubble market since those are by definition irrational.
42 posted on 12/09/2003 6:54:16 AM PST by AntiGuv (When the countdown hits zero, something's gonna happen..)
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To: RWR8189; Coop; SierraWasp; Southack; Liz; BOBTHENAILER; LS; ASA Vet
Go to this site for real time re the Dow and other indexes.

http://bigcharts.marketwatch.com/markets/indexes.asp

The big battle re the Dow 10,000 will require a lot of money from the $orea$$ thugs and their buddies pushing the gold via gloom and doom.

This battle will probably continue the rest of this year and into early next year.

Expect more Follywood produced Fears on from the left wing mediots, the $orea$$es, and the Gold Bugs who hate America with startling new tapes from the Departed Benny Ladeden and the not all there $oddomite. If we are lucky, we may even hear a new Christmas song from Elvis.

These "new" Follywood Fear Tapes have happened every month like a new full moon. They can drive the world wide market down 3-5% as sheeple panick. When this happens, we have a great buying opportunity on the dip. Later the sheeple get back into the market.

al Qaeda will probably attack Saudi Arabia or Turkey again with threats to destroy America with camel launched super suitcase bombs from deep in Afghanistan. These actions directed by Michael Moore for $orea$$ when combined with the newest tapes will drive the indexes down for awhile.
43 posted on 12/09/2003 6:54:41 AM PST by Grampa Dave (3rd Party Whiners are Irrelevant, w/less than 1% of the vote. They are just noisy!)
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To: RWR8189
10,000 will trigger automatic sells, will plateau than should continue up.
44 posted on 12/09/2003 6:54:55 AM PST by Semper Paratus
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To: OldFriend
According to the historical charts, it hasn't gone past 10,000 even during the trading day, since 24 May 2002.
45 posted on 12/09/2003 6:55:04 AM PST by RogerWilko
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To: RWR8189
Oh, it'll probably collapse now
down to 5000.

All because of Bush.

(Just ask "arete".)
46 posted on 12/09/2003 6:55:07 AM PST by txrangerette
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To: AntiGuv
I must say, you have been right about this. Whenever the markets are up early, then tend to have a sell-off late. Often (not always) when they are low early, they have a slight rally late---though seldom a large one.
47 posted on 12/09/2003 6:55:15 AM PST by LS
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To: OldFriend
Actually, make that 3 Jun 2002. 24 May 2002 was the last time it closed over 10,000.
48 posted on 12/09/2003 6:56:55 AM PST by RogerWilko
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To: bvw
What percentage of investments these days are controlled by the small vs. the large investor, anyone know?
49 posted on 12/09/2003 6:57:24 AM PST by mewzilla
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To: RWR8189
How soon until we hear "The stock market is going up to quickly" and "The economy is heating up to fast!"
50 posted on 12/09/2003 6:58:50 AM PST by Guillermo (Go Dawgs, Sic 'em!)
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To: Guillermo
I think it was the NY Times last week that mentioned that the economy was "peaking" too soon to help President Bush in next years election. Yea right. HAHAHAHAHAHA
51 posted on 12/09/2003 7:01:55 AM PST by Republican Red (Karmic hugs welcomed!)
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To: Grampa Dave
You know, your comments on Hollywood are so right and they reminded me of how VASTLY different Hollywood was in WW II. In my forthcoming book, "The Beacon of Liberty" (Penguin, 2004), I have this section on Hollywood in WW II:

Putting the Ax to the Axis

UNLIKE VIETNAM SOME 30 years later, in December 1941 the only people lying about their age or searching out sympathetic doctors for notes were trying to fake their way into the armed forces. Men too old and boys too young to be eligible for service managed to slip past the recruitment authorities. It was easy to do, with more than 16 million males enlisting or being drafted into the armed forces. Another 245,000 women in the Women's Army Corps and WAVES ("Women Accepted for Voluntary Service," which was the women's Naval auxiliary created largely through the efforts of Sen. Margaret Chase Smith) supported the effort. Other women, such as actress Ida Lupino, joined the ambulance and nurse corps, while Julia Child, later to be a cooking guru, served with the Office of Strategic Services in Ceylon. Ethnic minorities, discriminated against at home, such as the Japanese and blacks, brushed off their mistreatment to enlist, winning battle honors. The Japanese-American Nisei Regimental Combat Team (442d) became the most decorated American division of the war, and included future U.S. Senator Daniel Inouye, who lost an arm in combat. The all-black 99th Fighter Squadron saw action in Italy.

Celebrities of the day did not hesitate to enter the armed forces. Even before Pearl Harbor, many well-known personalities had signed up for the Reserves, including Major Cecil B. DeMille, Brig. Gen. Cornelius Vanderbilt, III, and Colonel David Sarnoff. Once war broke out, though, rather than seeking safety behind the lines, a number of movie stars and sons of elite families gave up their prestige and the protections of wealth to actively pursue combat assignments. Theodore Roosevelt, Jr., quit his job in 1941 to go on active duty as a colonel, and later saw action on D- Day. Academy Award winner Van Heflin joined the Army as an artilleryman; television's "Gunsmoke" hero, James Arness, was in the Army and wounded at Anzio, earning a Bronze Star; Eddie Albert, wounded at Tarawa, also earned a Bronze Star rescuing wounded and stranded Marines from the beach; "Get Smart's" Don Adams, a Marine, contracted malaria at Guadalcanal; Charleton Heston was a radio operator on B-25 bombers; Art Carney, sidekick of Jackie Gleason in the "Honeymooners," suffered a shrapnel wound at St. Lo before he could fire a shot; Ernest Borgnine---who later would play fictional Lt. Commander McHale in "McHale's Navy"---had already served in the Navy 12 years before WW II; Lucille Ball's famous Cuban husband, Desi Arnaz, was offered a commission in the Cuban navy, where, as an officer, he would be relatively safe on patrol in the Caribbean. He refused, choosing instead to enlist in the U.S. Navy, where he was rejected on the grounds that he was a non-citizen. Nevertheless, he could be drafted---and was---and despite failing the physical, went into the infantry, where he injured his knees. He finished the war entertaining troops. Other young men went on to literary or theatrical fame after the war. Novelist Norman Mailer went ashore with his infantry regiment in the Philippines; and western writer Louis L'Amour hit the beaches with his tank destroyer on D-Day. Alex Haley, who later became a famous novelist, served in the U.S. Coast Guard, while author William Manchester was wounded and left for dead, recovering after five months in a hospital. Tony Bennet, serving as an infantryman in Europe, got his first chance to sing while in the Army. Men who later would become Hollywood stars, including William Holden, Charles Bronson, Jack Lemmon, and Karl Maulden, signed up. Holden flew bombers over Germany, Ed McMahon was a U.S. Marine fighter pilot, and George Kennedy served under Gen. George Patton. Football greats, such as Tom Landry, coach of the Dallas Cowboys, flew B-17s with the Eighth Army, and baseball great Yogi Berra served as a gunner on a Navy bombardment ship. More than a few became heroes. Future director Mel Brooks fought at the Battle of the Bulge, Tony Curtis served on a submarine, and an underage Telly Savalas, later known for his television "Kojak" cop show role, was critically wounded in action and told he would never walk again. Academy Award winner Lee Marvin assaulted more than 20 beaches in the Pacific with his Marine unit, and in one battle, only Marvin and five others out of 247 survived. Walter Matthau, famous for his roles in the "Odd Couple" and the "Bad News Bears," won an impressive six silver stars as an Air Force gunner. None was more decorated than Audie Murphy, who became an actor after the war based on his incredible career. Murphy was the most decorated soldier in World War II, being awarded the Medal of Honor and 27 other medals, plus the French Legion of Honor and the Croix de Guerre.

Others, such as directors John Huston and John Ford, entered combat situations armed with movie cameras instead of guns, shooting war documentaries for propaganda. Science fiction writer Ray Bradbury honed his skills writing patriotic radio commercials. Jazz great Al Hirt entertained troops as part of the 82nd Army band, while bandleader Glenn Miller, who enlisted in the Air Force and was commissioned a captain, died while flying to Europe to entertain troops. Even civilians, at home or in service at the front, occasionally made the ultimate sacrifice, as when actress Carole Lombard died in an airplane crash on a tour selling war bonds. Ironically, one of the heroes most frequently associated with the military, John Wayne, was not drafted due to his large family, although he made several war movies that boosted morale immeasurably.

52 posted on 12/09/2003 7:02:11 AM PST by LS
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To: Guillermo
Interesting take in one of Bloomberg.com's articles today...

Dow Rise Overdone?

Some investors may sell shares once the Dow nears 10,000, reasoning that the market's rally is overdone, said Michael Burke, editor of the Investors Intelligence newsletter in New Rochelle, New York. It may take years for the benchmark to surmount 10,000 for good, said Burke, much as the Dow struggled for 16 years to cross 1000.

``It's a natural psychological resistance level,'' said Burke. ``You got to the 1000 level, and that was it. Then it just died.''

The Dow came within five points of 1000 in February 1966 before slipping. It took the benchmark more than six years to cross 1000. When the Dow did, in November 1972, it only stayed above that plateau until January 1973. The index crossed 1000 again in 1976, 1980 and 1981, though it wouldn't remain there for good until October 1982.

Brusca disagreed with Burke, arguing that economic and corporate profit growth is fast enough to justify the Dow's climb to 10,000 and higher.

``You've got to break 10,000 before you get above it,'' he said. ``Breaking the barrier is good and it's necessary.''

The economy expanded at an annual rate of 8.2 percent in the third quarter, the fastest since 1984. Corporate profits are increasing, with Intel Corp., the world's biggest maker of computer chips, saying third-quarter earnings more than doubled. Its fellow Dow member, aluminum supplier Alcoa Inc., reported a 40 percent increase.

53 posted on 12/09/2003 7:03:40 AM PST by NYC Republican
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To: RWR8189
Right way this time!

DOW 10,000 (oops, wrong way) from 8/30/2001

54 posted on 12/09/2003 7:03:42 AM PST by snopercod (The federal government will spend $21,000 per household in 2003, up from $16,000 in 1999.)
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To: RWR8189
hunch: soros and certain other notable speculators will be hammering the dow between here and 11k in hopes of attaining their political/self aggrandizing goals.

i think they will pay dearly for that.

55 posted on 12/09/2003 7:05:23 AM PST by the invisib1e hand (do not remove this tag under penalty of law.)
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To: Guillermo
You posted, "How soon until we hear "The stock market is going up to quickly" and "The economy is heating up to fast!"

I think we will hear the Rats and Gold Bugs who are sponsored by the $orea$$es will start hollering inflation sometime in the first quarter or early second quarter. When the Dow, QQQ, SPY and MID smash through the May 2002 levels and stay there.

Also, the socialist states of Europe and their propped up Euro will start falling with lack of support.

If and when Iran regime changes, the Euro will fall even faster as $orea$$ got his murdering Mullah Iranian buddies to demand Euros for their oil. When the Mullahs go, that will be a crushing blow for the Socialist States of Europe and their propped up Euro.
56 posted on 12/09/2003 7:07:28 AM PST by Grampa Dave (3rd Party Whiners are Irrelevant, w/less than 1% of the vote. They are just noisy!)
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To: RWR8189
Dow Hits 10,000 Again! Tom Daschle on Suicide Watch!
57 posted on 12/09/2003 7:07:48 AM PST by theDentist (Liberals can sugarcoat sh** all they want. I'm not biting.)
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To: AntiGuv
Note that I still haven't abandoned my basic forecast, merely shifted the timeframes
And at what point do you abandon your basic forecast?

The USSR never gave up on releasing new five-year plans.

58 posted on 12/09/2003 7:07:49 AM PST by William McKinley
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To: mewzilla
I think there was a lot of short selling in the hopes of a major correction. When the stock rises to a certain point the seller is forced to pay up!!!! They are buying to cover their short sales.

There are also major institutions that long for the days of corrupt Rubin and would do anything to subvert the market. It's a dangerous game tho, as they are finding out. The public has cash to invest over and above what they paid for their homes.

59 posted on 12/09/2003 7:08:31 AM PST by OldFriend (DEMS INHABIT A PARALLEL UNIVERSE)
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To: txrangerette; arete
Then why don't you ask him?
60 posted on 12/09/2003 7:11:05 AM PST by palmer (They've reinserted my posting tube)
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