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1 posted on 12/12/2003 3:57:02 AM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
So, a child has to have parental consent to be treated for a cold, but to have a life threatening procedure they're good to go. Who is going to take responsibility if the child dies? Or if they need hospitalization? Who is going to pay for that? I don't know how any rational human being can agree that allowing a child THIS exception is beneficial. They worry that the child is going to obtain the abortion illegally.

Well.. drugs are illegal too. People (even children) obtain them illegally and often die because of it. That's why the laws are out there. To keep the law abiding citizens out of harms way. There are those who are going to do what they want legal or not. These are the only children who would benefit from this law. The ones who don't care about the law anyway!

"These laws force many young women to ... carry unwanted pregnancies to term,"

What is wrong with a legal system that forces a person to accept the consequences for their own actions?

(Yeah, I know rape is out there..but if a child is getting an abortion due to something like that a parent absolutely needs to be involved anyway.. so they can also see that the child's other emotional and legal needs are taken care of.)
2 posted on 12/12/2003 4:41:34 AM PST by ljswisc
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To: kattracks
If I am not mistaken Dean said on one of his first interviews with Tim Russert that he is against parental notification when minors are involved.

Russert was rather taken aback by the position.

3 posted on 12/12/2003 4:44:26 AM PST by mware
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To: kattracks
Center for Reproductive Rights?

Seems like they got the name wrong...

...should be Center for Promoting Ignorance and Abortion...or something like that

4 posted on 12/12/2003 4:49:10 AM PST by NoClones
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To: kattracks
My Church is a good source of info on the Life war. Now, if only some bishops would take their place on the picket lines, the pictures on TV of highly placed and important churchmen on TV might generate some favorable legislative activity or court decisions that go the right way for a change. This would also energize the faithful.
6 posted on 12/12/2003 6:53:21 AM PST by steve8714
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Ping!
7 posted on 12/12/2003 7:00:15 AM PST by NYer (Keep CHRIST in Christmas!)
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The New York-based Catholic Family and Human Rights Institute (C-FAM) announced last Friday that it had obtained copies of internal memos generated by the Center for Reproductive Rights.

Those memos, which revealed CRR's agenda for promoting abortion worldwide, are now part of the Congressional Record.

Kudos to C-FAM!

Here is their Friday Fax, detailing the above.

SECOND OF A THREE PART SERIES
CRR Threatens Legal Action/Documents Read into Congressional Record

In an effort to stop further dissemination of its top-secret strategy to produce an international right to abortion-on-demand, the Center for Reproductive Rights (CRR) has threatened legal action against the Catholic Family and Human Rights Institute (C-FAM), which broke the story of this international law strategy in its December 5 Friday Fax.

In a letter faxed to C-FAM’s New York office, Nancy Northup, president of CRR, claims that “disclosure of this material has caused, and further disclosure will cause, CRR irreparable harm.” Therefore, Northup makes a number of “demands” upon C-FAM, including that C-FAM must return all copies of the memos, must “cease and desist from any further dissemination, by whatever means, including written, email, fax, oral, or electronic, of the Center’s internal memos,” and even that C-FAM must “identify to the Center all persons and organizations, including email addresses, to whom C-FAM disseminated the Center’s proprietary information.”

However, no legal maneuvering against C-FAM can now protect this strategy from further public scrutiny, since the internal CRR memos, which describe the strategy were this week introduced into the permanent US Congressional Record by Congressman Christopher Smith (R-NJ).

In a statement explaining his submission of the documents into the Congressional Record, Smith said that “It is critical that both the American and foreign public are made aware of these documents because they shed new light on the schemes of those who want to promote abortion here and abroad….These documents are important for the public to see because they expose the wolf donning sheep’s clothing in an attempt to sanitize violence against children. These papers reveal a Trojan Horse of deceit. In their own words, these documents demonstrate how abortion promotion groups are planning to push abortion…not by direct argument, but by twisting words and definitions.”

Smith appeared particularly troubled by some of the admissions made in the memos, such as the CRR statement that “…there is a stealth quality to the work: we are achieving incremental recognition of values without a huge amount of scrutiny from the opposition. These lower profile victories will gradually put us in a strong position to assert a broad consensus around our assertions.” Smith also highlighted a statement from a CRR trustee, who asserted that “We have to fight harder, be a little dirtier.”

Through this “stealth” campaign to produce new international laws, another trustee hopes that CRR will become the “midwife to the global choice movement.”

[The Friday Fax is reported and written by Douglas A. Sylva, C-FAM Vice-President.]

Catholic Ping - let me know if you want on/off this list


8 posted on 12/12/2003 7:21:11 AM PST by NYer (Keep CHRIST in Christmas!)
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To: EdReform
BTTT for later...
9 posted on 12/12/2003 9:05:41 AM PST by EdReform (Support Free Republic - Become a Monthly Donor)
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More on the latest in a long line of "final solutions" leftists have proposed.

ProLife Ping!

If anyone wants on or off my ProLife Ping List, please notify me here or by freepmail.

11 posted on 12/12/2003 9:15:55 AM PST by Mr. Silverback (Pre-empt the third murder attempt-- Pray for Terry Schiavo!)
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Please let me know if you want on or off my Pro-Life Ping List.

12 posted on 12/12/2003 10:41:13 AM PST by cpforlife.org (The Missing Key of the Pro-Life Movement is at www.CpForLife.org)
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Thank you congressman Chris Smith, pro-life Catholic from NJ

FIRST OF A SERIES
Secret Memos Reveal Worldwide Pro-Abortion Legal Strategy

The Friday Fax has acquired a number of internal memos produced by the Center for Reproductive Rights (CRR) that map out CRR's multi-year strategy for establishing binding and enforceable international reproductive rights laws, most notably girls' and women's right to state-financed abortion on demand. The memos were written to summarize the conclusions of strategic planning meetings held by CRR in late October, and they explain in detail how the Center, along with its many pro-abortion allies throughout the world, plans to expand international laws well beyond their current scope and to impose these new laws worldwide, even upon individual nations that do not explicitly assent to the changes.

The memos appear to confirm long-standing fears of some legal scholars that international negotiations on human rights laws are no longer conducted in good faith, and that national sovereignty is jeopardized by such negotiations.

In the memos, CRR repeatedly states that its "overarching goal is to ensure that governments worldwide guarantee reproductive rights out of an understanding that they are bound to do so." These rights would include the broadest possible access to abortion, and the establishment of abortion as an internationally recognized human right, but they are not limited to abortion. CRR also speaks of the international community's need to recognize the "inalienable nature" of what it calls "sexual rights."

These rights will in turn require new laws that "explicitly address the legal and social subordination women face within their families, marriages, communities and societies." They will also require the establishment of "reproductive autonomy" for girls, which CRR describes as access to all reproductive information and services, including abortion, without parental notification or consent.

CRR hopes to achieve these goals through a multi-pronged strategy. First, CRR will work to radically expand the interpretations of already-accepted international rights, what CRR calls "hard norms," into vehicles for its reproductive rights agenda. Thus, CRR claims to have found, or "grounded," a right to abortion in the right to life, the right to health, even the right to enjoy scientific progress. CRR favors this approach because "there is a stealth quality to the work: we are achieving incremental recognition of values without a huge amount of scrutiny from the opposition."

Second, CRR hopes to create new customary international laws, what it calls "soft norms," that explicitly mention abortion and sexual autonomy. According to CRR, if soft norms are repeated often enough, they may become hard norms, and therefore binding on nations. Soft norms accumulate in a host of international and regional settings, including through the European Court of Human Rights and UN compliance committees.

Finally, CRR seeks a means to impose these new international laws on recalcitrant nations. Thus, CRR will be "supporting efforts to strengthen existing enforcement mechanisms, such as the campaign for the International Criminal Court and the Optional Protocol to the Convention on the Elimination of All Forms of Discrimination Against Women."


SECOND OF A THREE PART SERIES
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1038998/posts?page=8#8
14 posted on 12/12/2003 11:40:21 AM PST by Coleus (God is Pro-Life & Straight & gave us an innate predisposition for protection and self preservation)
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To: kattracks
bttt
16 posted on 12/12/2003 1:50:22 PM PST by tutstar (Jesus is the reason for the season! <((--><)
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Pro-life ping...

More outrage from the population control crowd.
19 posted on 12/18/2003 7:18:16 PM PST by cgk (Kraut, 1989: We must brace ourselves for disquisitions on peer pressure, adolescent anomie & rage.)
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20 posted on 12/18/2003 7:21:44 PM PST by Bob J (www.freerepublic.net www.radiofreerepublic.com...check them out!)
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To: kattracks
"We are seeing the antis push hard to diminish minors' rights"

The right to die like Holly Patterson?

25 posted on 12/19/2003 11:14:25 AM PST by MEGoody
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