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U.S. commander: Tip led to Saddam capture
AP | 12/14/03 | ALEKSANDAR VASOVIC

Posted on 12/14/2003 9:41:58 AM PST by kattracks

TIKRIT, Iraq (AP) — Saddam Hussein was captured based on information from a member of a family "close to him," Maj. Gen. Raymond Odierno said Sunday.

Odierno, the commander of the 4th Infantry Division that captured Saddam, said over the last 10 days soldiers have questioned "five to 10 members" of families "close to Saddam."

"Finally we got the ultimate information from one of these individuals," he said.

About 600 soldiers under his command conducted the raid Saturday night in a farm near the village of Adwar, finding Saddam in a hole covered by Styrofoam and a carpet beside a two-room shack, Odierno said.

When soldiers pulled the bearded man from the hole, he said, "he was very much bewildered."

Saddam carried a pistol but offered no resistance and taken south by helicopter about an hour after he was pulled from his hiding place, Odierno said.

"He was just caught like a rat," he said. "When you're in the bottom of a hole you can't fight back."

Odierno said intelligence indicated the target of the raid was Saddam himself.

"We thought it was Saddam," he said.

But he said the soldiers participating in the raid didn't know who the target was until he was captured.

The forces found no telephones, radios or other communications devices in Saddam's hideout, which Odierno said affirmed his suspicions that the captured dictator could not have been leading the anti-U.S. insurgency on a large scale.

"I believe he was there more for moral support," Odierno said. "I don't believe he was coordinating the effort because I don't believe there's any national coordination."



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1 posted on 12/14/2003 9:41:59 AM PST by kattracks
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To: kattracks
"When you're in the bottom of a hole you can't fight back."

Would someone please inform John Kerry of this...

2 posted on 12/14/2003 9:43:21 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Saddam Captured Hiding in Hobbit Hole!)
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To: kattracks
The forces found no telephones, radios or other communications devices in Saddam's hideout, which Odierno said affirmed his suspicions that the captured dictator could not have been leading the anti-U.S. insurgency on a large scale.

"I believe he was there more for moral support," Odierno said. "I don't believe he was coordinating the effort because I don't believe there's any national coordination."

That' not something people on FR want to hear. So the capture of Saddam may have no effect on the attacks against our troops.

3 posted on 12/14/2003 9:44:56 AM PST by clamboat
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To: Tijeras_Slim
He can't hear you. He's still digging in deeper.
4 posted on 12/14/2003 9:45:21 AM PST by MizSterious (First, the journalists, THEN the lawyers.)
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To: kattracks
Someone in his family is 25 million richer.
5 posted on 12/14/2003 9:45:39 AM PST by Burkeman1 ("If you see ten troubles comin down the road, nine will run into the ditch before they reach you")
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To: MizSterious
Hand him a bigger shovel. :)
6 posted on 12/14/2003 9:45:52 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim (Saddam Captured Hiding in Hobbit Hole!)
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To: kattracks
Saddam Hussein was captured based on information from a member of a family "close to him."

Looks like when Hillary visited him on her Iraq trip, Saddam refused to continuing making the payments.

7 posted on 12/14/2003 9:46:55 AM PST by governsleastgovernsbest
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To: kattracks
SOMEONE'S going to have some extra cash for Christmas, err, Ramadan this year!
8 posted on 12/14/2003 9:48:04 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Kerry also needs to know one more thing..... I know a doctor who can fix his um.... SPECIAL issues. :-)
9 posted on 12/14/2003 9:49:36 AM PST by DeltaWeasel
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To: clamboat
That' not something people on FR want to hear. So the capture of Saddam may have no effect on the attacks against our troops.

It will still have an effect. Morale is a very important factor, especially for guerilla fighting.

10 posted on 12/14/2003 9:49:39 AM PST by Teacher317
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To: clamboat
It will take some time to determine that. But the pyscological impact of his capture on the Iraqi people might aide significantly in counter insurgency efforts. Now that there is no possibility of his return to power- Iraqis might breath easier and be more prone to cooperate with our forces.
11 posted on 12/14/2003 9:49:40 AM PST by Burkeman1 ("If you see ten troubles comin down the road, nine will run into the ditch before they reach you")
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To: clamboat
I disagree - morale is a big piece of motivation.

This hurts morale of opfor big time.
12 posted on 12/14/2003 9:50:49 AM PST by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitor)
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To: kattracks
is the person that passed along the tip going to be eligible for the $25 million?
13 posted on 12/14/2003 9:51:42 AM PST by alloysteel
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To: Tijeras_Slim
Saddam's last palace

14 posted on 12/14/2003 9:53:03 AM PST by ErnBatavia (Taglineus Interruptus)
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To: kattracks
I'm in awe. Such a day of validation.
15 posted on 12/14/2003 9:53:07 AM PST by mrebel2k
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To: kattracks
Someone is getting 25 milliong. Anyhow, Marry Christmas USA!
16 posted on 12/14/2003 9:56:27 AM PST by matrix2225
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To: kattracks
I can only assume that the $25 million this tipster has coming to him/her will come out of that trunkful of cash that was found with Saddam Insane...
17 posted on 12/14/2003 10:01:08 AM PST by Publius6961 (40% of Californians are as dumb as a sack of rocks.)
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To: kattracks
I've been looking for pictures of the cellar. Anybody seen any yet?
18 posted on 12/14/2003 10:04:38 AM PST by lainie
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To: lainie
Look here.
19 posted on 12/14/2003 10:10:07 AM PST by kattracks
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To: Teacher317
SOMEONE'S going to have some extra cash for Christmas, err, Ramadan this year!

Reporter with microphone: "Now that you've collected millions in ranson money, what's next?"

Informer on Saddam: "I, the four wives and our 27 kids are going to Disney Land!"
20 posted on 12/14/2003 10:12:34 AM PST by VOA
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To: Burkeman1
I keep hearing that the informant was part of a family that was being interrogated. Instead of a person willingly turning over this information to US forces, how would you guys feel about this reward being offered if it turns out this family was captured for collaborating with Saddam...and only gave him up after being threatened?
21 posted on 12/14/2003 10:16:48 AM PST by cwb
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To: kattracks
Yo Hitlery, the unacknowledged leader of the RAT party who has been on a Bush-bashing party since she took office as the carpetbagger senator of New York, we don't hear you. Yo Puce Pelosi, we don't hear you.
22 posted on 12/14/2003 10:17:21 AM PST by lilylangtree
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To: kattracks
Saddam was packing ,but did not fight. Good example for the terrorists.
23 posted on 12/14/2003 10:20:14 AM PST by Big Horn
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To: kattracks
The French will probably make him an honorary citizen of Paris.
24 posted on 12/14/2003 10:22:37 AM PST by maui_hawaii
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To: clamboat
That' not something people on FR want to hear. So the capture of Saddam may have no effect on the attacks against our troops.

But other captures we've made are having some effect, and there will be more captures, probably soon.

25 posted on 12/14/2003 10:40:07 AM PST by lasereye
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To: kattracks
Bump Kat!


26 posted on 12/14/2003 10:49:01 AM PST by JustPiper (Teach the Children to fight Liberalism ! They will be voting in 2008 !!!)
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To: JustPiper
What a great photo!
27 posted on 12/14/2003 10:53:03 AM PST by international american
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To: clamboat
That' not something people on FR want to hear. So the capture of Saddam may have no effect on the attacks against our troops.

It will simply because it makes their cause now unattainable. With Saddam's capture, there is now no hope to restore him to power.

28 posted on 12/14/2003 11:03:01 AM PST by Always Right
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To: Big Horn
I am so happy that Saddam didn't fight and just gave up. By not going down as a martyr, he lost whatever final influence he could have had in the writing of history.
29 posted on 12/14/2003 11:18:12 AM PST by Sender
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To: Sender
"I am so happy that Saddam didn't fight and just gave up. By not going down as a martyr, he lost whatever final influence he could have had in the writing of history."

And the last few of his loyalists have to be asking themselves if they are really willing to fight to the death for someone now exposed as a coward...

30 posted on 12/14/2003 1:04:00 PM PST by Joe 6-pack
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To: cwboelter
It may have been a combination- threat and reward.
31 posted on 12/14/2003 1:17:28 PM PST by Burkeman1 ("If you see ten troubles comin down the road, nine will run into the ditch before they reach you")
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To: kattracks

32 posted on 12/14/2003 1:48:01 PM PST by truthandlife ("Some trust in chariots and some in horses, but we trust in the name of the LORD our God." (Ps 20:7))
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To: Always Right
I think Sadaam was largely out of the loop. Their goal was not to restore him to power. But just to get us out and then they could fight among themselves to see who the next Sadaam was going to be.

But why this is a potential big deal in effecting the current level of hostilities in Iraq is that now that Sadaam is captured and has zero chance of returning to power- more Iraqis may feel safer and begin to cooperate more with our forces in giving intel against the insurgents. Whereas before they still feared Sadaam might return if we tired of being there. Iraqis were taking a "wait and see" attitude. Now- they may feel confident enough to help us out against the insurgents. The next few weeks to a month should tell the tale.
33 posted on 12/14/2003 2:01:52 PM PST by Burkeman1 ("If you see ten troubles comin down the road, nine will run into the ditch before they reach you")
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To: truthandlife
The ironic thing about the Newsweek cover is that Newsweek was planning to have Howard Dean on the cover. Of course the capture of Saddam may not have only knocked Dean off the cover, but likely will have knocked Dean out of the front runner status.
34 posted on 12/14/2003 2:13:01 PM PST by Always Right
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To: international american
I loved it thanks ;)
35 posted on 12/14/2003 3:05:59 PM PST by JustPiper (Teach the Children to fight Liberalism ! They will be voting in 2008 !!!)
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