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SADDAMFREUDE WATCH
andrewsullivan.com ^ | 12/14/03 | Andrew Sullivan

Posted on 12/14/2003 5:02:43 PM PST by livesbygrace

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81 posted on 12/17/2003 6:58:02 AM PST by VOA
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To: aculeus; general_re; All
Harry Browne, beyond caricature as is his custom.
82 posted on 12/17/2003 9:27:20 PM PST by dighton
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To: aculeus; general_re; BlueLancer; Poohbah; hellinahandcart; Catspaw; Justin Raimondo; hchutch; ...
Saddam leaves hole. Justin emerges from sewer:

"It was a cold, calculated act of sadism. Choosing to broadcast images of a werewolfish Saddam being shorn of his beard, his mouth opened and examined – for what? Drugs? Bombs? Cavities? – was part and parcel of the Americans' "shock and awe" campaign. A phony "medical examination" became a symbolic subjugation in which Saddam represented an entire people."

.......

"As Saddam is displayed like a wild animal in captivity, the braying triumphalism of the War Party marks a low point, not only in our conduct of the war, but in the annals of modern military history. I have every confidence, however, that we'll go much lower before the occupation is over."

.......

"This war was always about advancing Israel's agenda in the Middle East, with the mythical "weapons of mass destruction" merely a pretext, a Potemkin village of disinformation behind which the real motive for the invasion was concealed. The 200 or so soldiers who have died in Iraq, and the thousands seriously wounded or otherwise disabled, were sacrificed to make the world – or, at least, the Middle East – safe for Israel."

83 posted on 12/18/2003 6:47:23 AM PST by dighton
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To: dighton; general_re; BlueLancer; Poohbah; hellinahandcart; Catspaw; Justin Raimondo; hchutch
Saddam leaves hole. Justin emerges from sewer:

Please!

Do not insult future President Buchanan's Secretary of State!

84 posted on 12/18/2003 6:56:26 AM PST by aculeus
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To: dighton
Help me out here, dighton:

The difference between Justine Raimondo and Medea Benjamin is what?

85 posted on 12/18/2003 7:09:02 AM PST by Catspaw
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Can't think of any - policy-wise, that is.
86 posted on 12/18/2003 7:25:06 AM PST by hchutch ("I don't see what the big deal is, I really don't." - Major Vic Deakins, USAF (ret.))
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Joseph Sobran.

"So Saddam Hussein, who hasn’t broken any American laws, will stand trial under the supervision of President Bush, who has pretty much shelved the U.S. Constitution."

87 posted on 12/19/2003 10:44:34 AM PST by dighton
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To: dighton; Poohbah; BOBTHENAILER; Grampa Dave; veronica
Why am I not surprised?
88 posted on 12/19/2003 1:21:53 PM PST by hchutch ("I don't see what the big deal is, I really don't." - Major Vic Deakins, USAF (ret.))
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Every time I say, "Not even Joseph Sobran could be that much of an idiot," he goes out makes a liar outta me...
89 posted on 12/19/2003 1:27:12 PM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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Sobering thoughts from a slobbering idiot named Sobran.
90 posted on 12/19/2003 1:57:18 PM PST by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in groups or whole armies.....we don't care how we getcha, but we will)
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To: dighton
It's quite a spectacle to watch the antiwar left and right slowly being crushed to death by the anaconda of their ideas - and, rather than trying to escape, they keep feeding the beast, convinced that one day it will release them and destroy Bush and the neocons instead.
91 posted on 12/19/2003 2:00:19 PM PST by dirtboy (New Ben and Jerry's flavor - Howard Dean Swirl - no ice cream, just fruit at bottom)
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Max Hastings:

Bush wants Saddam to hang, but we must resist

The US president is reflecting his own brutish view of the world

It has always seemed mistaken to perceive Iraq as the epicentre of the "Iraq crisis". Events there represent only one manifestation of a much more profound issue: how the rest of the world should manage its relationship with the United States. This will be our great foreign policy dilemma for at least the first half of the 21st century.

America's wealth and power are inescapable realities. It seems self-indulgent to lavish emotional and intellectual energy on deploring the shortcomings of the world's only superpower. From Tony Blair downwards, all of us must focus on coming to terms with the US, rather than figuratively waving placards to demand that this great nation should be something other than it is.

Yet, it is hard not to hate George Bush. His ignorance and conceit, his professed special relationship with God, invite revulsion. A few weeks ago, I heard a British diplomat observe sagely: "We must not demonise Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz." Why not? The US defence secretary and his assistant have implemented coalition policy in Iraq in a fashion that makes Soviet behaviour in Afghanistan in the 1970s appear dextrous. The British are hapless passengers on the Pentagon's juggernaut.

(et cetera)

92 posted on 12/19/2003 7:10:20 PM PST by dighton
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America's wealth and power are inescapable realities.

The above is the only true statement in that bilge of Hasting's. Sheesh, what a creep he is.

93 posted on 12/19/2003 7:47:48 PM PST by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in groups or whole armies.....we don't care how we getcha, but we will)
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To: dighton
I clicked on the link, then followed the link trail to the Iraq Body Count website.

To the editors of the Iraq Body Count website I would like to say: It's a f****** war you f****** retards.
94 posted on 12/20/2003 3:54:43 AM PST by raynearhood
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To: livesbygrace; All
Charley Reese.

Capture Won't Mean Much

96 posted on 12/24/2003 8:00:47 AM PST by dighton
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Andrew Greeley

Was the capture of Saddam Hussein a major victory for the United States? It was certainly a victory in the extended Iraq war. It was a victory for President Bush over the man who plotted to kill his father. It was a victory for the U.S. military and its intelligence service -- especially for the lieutenant and the corporal who figured out how to find him. It was a victory for the Republican Party’s plan to keep a stranglehold on American politics. But was it, as the president told us, a victory in the ‘’war on terrorism’’?

Despite the media hoopla and the White House spin doctors, it was not.

(and so forth)

97 posted on 12/27/2003 9:29:14 AM PST by dighton
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“The case against an invasion of a relatively liberal state that never intended any harm to the US, against launching a war that crushed a suffering country and killed thousands, and recruited many more into the terrorist camp – the case against such a war is as easy to make as reading itself.”

-- Jeffrey Tucker, at lewrockwell.com. Thread here.

98 posted on 01/07/2004 5:52:12 AM PST by dighton
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