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To: SJackson
The first pillar — that the war in Iraq was a failure without the capture or death of Saddam Hussein — came crashing to an ignominious end Saturday night on a farm near Tikrit.
But don't you understand how the left will spin this? They always knew that Saddam would be captured. Saddam's capture changes nothing.

Just like they predicted doom before the war and then after the war changed the party line to: We always knew the US would win the first phase of the war. That means nothing.

In the words of Lieberman, they are living in spider-holes of denial.

(Have to give the old RAT credit, that is a GREAT catch-phrase.)

2 posted on 12/16/2003 7:02:14 AM PST by samtheman
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To: samtheman
And don't leave out the Spinerazzi of choice: We knew all along where Saddam was, and only timed the staged "finding" of him for political advantage, while the Bush polls were falling, economy collapsing, and Dean riding high on his white horse, etc.
4 posted on 12/16/2003 7:10:12 AM PST by C210N
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To: samtheman
But don't you understand how the left will spin this? They always knew that Saddam would be captured. Saddam's capture changes nothing.

Listen, they cay spin this all they want, but reality will defeat them at every turn. Those on the left who want to avoid looking like fools (and there are some, including many of those who have some connection with reality) will have to cut their losses and look elsewhere for ways to bash Bush and America.

The capture of Saddam Hussein is huge, historic. It can not be undone by rhetoric, which is increasingly the only refuge of the left. It is of a piece with the fall of the Soviet Union. The left has no successes to which to refer, and is increasingly the realm of fools and the mad, and of those who know how to make use of them.

(steely)

6 posted on 12/16/2003 7:27:05 AM PST by Steely Tom
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To: samtheman
Heck, the leftist spin on his capture is: "It will hurt the US! It only enrages other Arabs!"
7 posted on 12/16/2003 7:30:14 AM PST by Guillermo (Shoot me if you ever see me on a Kobe Bryant, Michael Jackson or Scott Peterson thread)
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To: samtheman
(Have to give the old RAT credit, that is a GREAT catch-phrase.)

Lieberman is the best of a bad lot.

18 posted on 12/16/2003 9:01:25 AM PST by wizardoz ("Let's roll!" ........................................................ "We got him!")
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