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Sierra Vista, AZ Deanie-Weenie After Freep Report
Myself | 12/16/03 | AZHSer

Posted on 12/16/2003 7:47:20 PM PST by AZHSer

First of all, let me state that this was not really a Dean rally, it was more like a Hate Bush rally. My husband and I arrived at the Sierra Vista Airport at around 2:10p.m. Dean was due to be there by 3. There was already a gentleman there carrying a sign that said Draft Dodger on one side and Coward Dean on the other. He was also passing out leaflets containing information concerning Dean's little skiing trip he took after getting a medical deferment. Another couple, both Republican Precinct Committeemen, and the leader of the Cochise County Young Repulicans were there. Nine in all.

Our original objective was to assist For Our Grandchildren in passing thier literature concerning Social Security reform. For more information about this organization, please visit http://www.forourchildren.org. The pictures from this event and others they have attended will be posted there. Three of them drove down from Tucson with signs and pamplets. Thanks Guys! In addition to thier signs, my husband and I carried copies of Just Another Lurker's I Want You Help Stop Terrorism and Oppression - Vote Republican graphic.

In order to fill the hanger they bused in 2 busloads of people. They also bused in the 8th grade classes from Huachuca City (Middle?) School.

Before Dean arrived, the guy with the Draft Dodger sign went into the hangar. He was cussed at, kicked, poked, shoved, ect. The S.V. Police Department had to surround him to pull him out to keep him from getting hurt. He was able to keep his good humor though. Several people came outside and apologised to him saying that he had as much right to be there as anyone else. Some of these folks left.

When Dean arrived we lined up to show him our signs. One old guy tried to get the Deanie-weenies to use thier signs to cover ours. He could not get anyone to do this. As a result Dean got an eyeful of our signs. It was fairly quiet while he was inside except for this dirty hippie type guy quoting made derogetory poetry about President Bush. There was also an eighth grader that had passed out in the hangar. His teacher and a friend carried him out. Aside from calling 911, nobody helped them. The kid had to lie down on the cold pavement until the paramedics got there. I allowed the teacher to use my cell to call the school and make arrangements. Hope he is okay. During the whole thing there were a lot of folks leaving or just milling around outside of the hangar.

Things heated up after Dean left. People leaving were generally nice unil they saw hubby and my signs. At one point I was surrounded by a group of people, led by the hippie poet who were making some very ugly comments. After they left, this hippie skank got right in my face screaming about the environment and how the luekimia cluster we are experiencing down here is Bush's and Ft.Huachuca's fault. They have aready proven it's caused by naturally occurring tungsten in the soil and when I started to refute her she pointed her finger in in my face, screamed that a vote for Bush was a vote for killing her child and then poked me on the chin as hard as she could. I told her she needed to leave or I would get the police and my hubby came over to make sure I was okay. Her husband (the hippie poet) came and got her and led her away.

An old guy screaming at the Draft Dodger guy attracted the attention of Wall Street Journal reporter Jackie Calmes. She was very biased. She wanted to know what the difference was between Dean's dodging and the year Bush took off from the reserves to campaign for his Dad. My husband stepped in and gave her information regarding the difference in active duty and reserve units. She kept insisting that Bush was AWOL at that time and that we were being inconsistant to point out Dean's dodging. She did take notes on what my hubby told her so maybe she will check it out.

All in all, it was a good FReep. We handed out almost all of the info from For Our Grandchildren and made some new friends. Hopefully, next time there will be more of us.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Politics/Elections; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: dean; howarddean; protest; socialsecurity
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Thanks Just Another Lurker for the great graphic and thanks to Spiff for encouraging us. Could someone ping Arizona?
1 posted on 12/16/2003 7:47:21 PM PST by AZHSer
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To: Spiff; Just Another Lurker
PING!
2 posted on 12/16/2003 7:48:12 PM PST by AZHSer
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To: AZHSer
Nice job, especially keeping your composure. Thanks for sharing.
3 posted on 12/16/2003 7:53:56 PM PST by Texas_Jarhead
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To: AZHSer; RonDog; daviddennis; seenenuf; diotima
Way to go!


I would say you did great and had lots of action!!!!
4 posted on 12/16/2003 7:55:11 PM PST by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Davis is now out of Arnoold's Office , Bout Time!!!!)
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To: AZHSer
Sorry guys! I gave the wrong site for For Our Grandchildren. The real address is http://www.forourgrandchildren.org Sorry for the mix up.
5 posted on 12/16/2003 8:00:30 PM PST by AZHSer
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To: AZHSer
Thanks for the great report! This was your first trial by fire - wish I could have been there. Aren't leftists rotten?

Just a quick correction, the website for the social security reform organization is ForOurGrandchildren.org.

Is this the graphic on your sign?


6 posted on 12/16/2003 8:02:12 PM PST by Spiff (Have you committed one random act of thoughtcrime today?)
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To: AZHSer
I probably need to add that the people were bused in from Tucson. Cochise County is a small area and except for the Bisbee wackos I don't think Dean has much support.
7 posted on 12/16/2003 8:03:26 PM PST by AZHSer
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To: Spiff
Thats it! It really pissed off the hippie guy. He kept saying that GW looked like a little boy playing soldier. He also kept going on about how Bush was just a spoiled rich boy. About that time Dean's plane arrived and my hubby told him "Well there's your rich boy in his plane." The guy shut up and moved off. LOL!
8 posted on 12/16/2003 8:07:00 PM PST by AZHSer
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To: AZHSer
And I need to add that you did great!! Now that you've done it, you'll be looking for opportunities to do it again. Sorry I had to miss it.
9 posted on 12/16/2003 8:07:35 PM PST by Spiff (Have you committed one random act of thoughtcrime today?)
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To: AZHSer
Interesting bit about the kid who passed out. Remember the Jefferson-Jackson dinner a few weeks ago, when the media made such a big deal about "Doctor" Dean rushing off the stage to assist someone in the crowd who was supposedly having medical problems of some kind or other? Where was the good doctor today whan that boy passed out? To me, this just reinforces my belief that the Doctor Dean bit at the fundraiser was a completely staged event.

At any rate, I also do hope that boy is okay. If you hear anything else about him please let us know. Great Freep!
10 posted on 12/16/2003 8:10:16 PM PST by CFC__VRWC (AIDS, abortion, euthanasia - don't liberals just kill ya?)
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To: AZHSer
Glad for the information on the WSJ reporter. Lots of people don't realize that the WSJ has two groups...the editorial page (our side) and the news pages (leftists selected by Al Hunt).

Your report confirms this information. Thanks again!

11 posted on 12/16/2003 8:14:27 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: Miss Marple
Glad for the information on the WSJ reporter. Lots of people don't realize that the WSJ has two groups...the editorial page (our side) and the news pages (leftists selected by Al Hunt).

I'll bet five bucks that Al Hunt will not have a single kind word to say about the late Robert Bartley in either his weekly WSJ editorial page column or on his gig on The Capital Gang.

12 posted on 12/16/2003 8:18:45 PM PST by CFC__VRWC (AIDS, abortion, euthanasia - don't liberals just kill ya?)
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To: AZHSer
Way to go, on a perilous FReep!
13 posted on 12/16/2003 8:23:12 PM PST by spookycc (Never forgive! Never forget!)
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To: HiJinx
Thought you might like to see this ;-)
14 posted on 12/16/2003 8:26:50 PM PST by AZHSer
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To: AZHSer
Thanks !
15 posted on 12/16/2003 8:27:47 PM PST by Drango ("To Serve Man" ... IT'S A COOKBOOK!)
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To: AZHSer; HiJinx; madfly; Spiff
Great Job. I thought and prayed for those who could go. I was working and couldn't get off.

Hope you and your hubby turned in a Police report to the S.V. Police on the woman for Assault from the Bisbee Commies.

Too bad Dean couldn't have been forced due to some problem on the civilian side to land on the Libby Army Airfield side and the rally held, (as a courtesy of course) in a hanger on the post side.

I know quite a few MPs who would love to get a Bisbee hippie into D-Cell and charge them with assault on Federal Property and a Military Installation.
16 posted on 12/16/2003 8:36:47 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: AZHSer; 1forall; 1st Freedom 2A; 20yearvet; 2pir; 2Smart2BLiberal; 356SC; 45ACP; 4bn73 armor; ...
Pinging all of AZ on behalf of AZHSer for her great account of a great FReep.

(I have list of AZ FReepers from several weeks back when Bush was in AZ and I tried, apparently without success, to get FReepers to counter the leftists protesting Bush.)
17 posted on 12/16/2003 8:40:39 PM PST by BillF (Fight terrorists in Iraq & elsewhere, instead of waiting for them to come to America!)
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To: CFC__VRWC
Hubby said I should let you know that the young man and his teacher were black. Wonder if that had anything to do with it? Seems like the boy was just dehydrated. Folks around here generally drink enough in the summer because it is so hot. Once it gets cold, they forget. Hopefully he has been rehydrated and is already home resting.
18 posted on 12/16/2003 8:47:52 PM PST by AZHSer
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To: AZHSer
Dean was also in Yuma today, we chose to ignore him we didn't want to add to his numbers, or draw any unnecessary attention to him. I spoke to someone who was there, he said all Dean did was bash the President. There were about 200 there, many were snow birds.
19 posted on 12/16/2003 8:49:08 PM PST by c-b 1
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To: BillF; AZHSer
Thanks for the ping Bill. I have to admit I am embarrassed that I have not been able to attend any AZ FReeps. You guys did great down in SV...AZHSer, when the hippie girl touched you she committed battery...she should have been arrested. Like most lefties they let their emotions rule their lives. One day she will poke the wrong person and spend some time in tent city...
20 posted on 12/16/2003 8:52:37 PM PST by in the Arena (For Sale: One computer hardly used. One bullet hole in screen.)
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To: SandRat
No we didn't. She didn't hurt me. Well maybe my pride a little, LOL. Next time we will bring a camera to record any nonsense so it won't be a we said they said type thing. At one point hubby thought he saw her coming back and started for the police but it wasn't her so he stopped.

You bringing up the Fort made me think about the fact that there were absolutely no military there that I could tell. The closest thing we saw were two little Civil Air Patrol punks.
21 posted on 12/16/2003 8:55:06 PM PST by AZHSer
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To: in the Arena
One day she will poke the wrong person and spend some time in tent city...

Ooooo! A potential check-in for the Maricopa County Canvas Motel!

I like the way you think!

22 posted on 12/16/2003 8:55:35 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: AZHSer
Great! I'm so happy to know that you were there to represent all of us--and it sounds like you made some waves. Keep up the good work!
23 posted on 12/16/2003 9:01:05 PM PST by basil
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To: BillF
Thanks for doing the ping thing!
24 posted on 12/16/2003 9:01:10 PM PST by AZHSer
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To: AZHSer
Think back to those you did see especially the males now get a real good picture of them in your mind concentrate on the hair cuts, ... you may have seen military there and didn't even know it, they were in civvies but on civilian turf so the needed to be that way but the hair cut will always point them out. That and their ramrod posture.
25 posted on 12/16/2003 9:05:23 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: AZHSer
Your After-Action Report was an exciting read. From the child fainting to the poke on the chin, that was quite a FReep.

Congratulations on keeping your cool and being such a fine representative of American Patriots. It must have been difficult to be surrounded by all that left wing hate. Thanks to all of you for being out there on the front lines.
26 posted on 12/16/2003 9:06:35 PM PST by Flora McDonald (Stand the Storm)
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To: SandRat
Yeah, Joe has had some good ideas...endorsing Napolitano was not one of them...

take care,

Jim

27 posted on 12/16/2003 9:07:02 PM PST by in the Arena (For Sale: One computer hardly used. One bullet hole in screen.)
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To: AZHSer
Well done! Thanks for being there, AZHSer.
28 posted on 12/16/2003 9:07:24 PM PST by ETERNAL WARMING
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To: SandRat
Been a military wife for over 10 years and I am pretty good at picking them out. Lots of older folks and kids but not many in between. There might have been a few but I didn't see them. One person I recognized right away was the pastor from St. Paul's Missionary Baptist. I didn't even have to see him, just heard him. He was doing part of the introductions before Dean arrived.
29 posted on 12/16/2003 9:12:23 PM PST by AZHSer
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To: AZHSer
Baptist pastor supporting Dean? That's surprising.
30 posted on 12/16/2003 9:16:53 PM PST by BillF (Fight terrorists in Iraq & elsewhere, instead of waiting for them to come to America!)
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To: AZHSer
Then they may have gotten the word from on high to stay away.
31 posted on 12/16/2003 9:20:48 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: SandRat
Could be. Hubby thinks not too many would have been interested in Dean anyway.
32 posted on 12/16/2003 9:26:28 PM PST by AZHSer
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To: AZHSer
Think what they'd possibly be interested in doing is probably not considered gentlemanly conduct.
33 posted on 12/16/2003 9:43:31 PM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: AZHSer
Way to show your freep colors!
34 posted on 12/16/2003 10:14:02 PM PST by Az Joe
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To: AZHSer
Oh, and Howard Dean grew up in abject poverty, right?
35 posted on 12/16/2003 10:20:19 PM PST by DLfromthedesert (We caught Saddam, but Vicente is still at large.)
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To: AZHSer
Wouldn't think so with Fort Huachuca in the vicinity. Those G.I.s are cream of the crop.
36 posted on 12/16/2003 10:52:46 PM PST by BenLurkin (Socialism is Slavery)
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To: AZHSer
Did you take a hazmat shower after attending this event? ;-)
37 posted on 12/16/2003 11:46:51 PM PST by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: AZHSer
Way to go! Rattle that creep good!
38 posted on 12/17/2003 12:09:07 AM PST by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: HiJinx
Ping
39 posted on 12/17/2003 5:42:36 AM PST by SandRat (Duty, Honor, Country. What else needs to be said?)
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To: AZHSer
Thank you for the report!!

I heard on KFYI that Deenie paid a visit to the seniors in Sun City ... he was 20 minutes late and only spent a short time with them. He was then "whisked away" to do Yuma.

He harped on Soc. Security while he was doing the seniors. Too bad that many of these are FDR types.

g

40 posted on 12/17/2003 6:35:39 AM PST by Geezerette (... but young at heart!-)
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To: AZHSer
"...then poked me on the chin as hard as she could."Oohhh...I would have been an embarrassment to us all I am afraid, as I couldn't have held my temper. Good work and thanks for the report!
41 posted on 12/17/2003 6:39:11 AM PST by yoe (Mrs. Clinton's heart is rumored to be as big as a Caraway Seed, but I think that is an exaggeration.)
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To: AZHSer
Great report! Good job.

But remember: Proofreading is your friend.
42 posted on 12/17/2003 7:16:38 AM PST by Redbob (this space reserved for witty remarks)
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To: AZHSer
More compassionate followers of Howard Mean! Congratulations.
43 posted on 12/17/2003 8:05:33 AM PST by .cnI redruM (Dean People Suck!)
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To: AZHSer
I've got a call in to the gentleman with the Coward Dean/Draft Dodger sign who was roughed up in the hangar. I had to do some detective work to figure out who he was, but your clues are what lead me to him. He called back and talked to my wife briefly. He says he has several bruises from the encounter. I will be calling him and getting a more complete report later and posting it here.
44 posted on 12/17/2003 8:34:36 AM PST by Spiff (Have you committed one random act of thoughtcrime today?)
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To: Spiff
Thanks for your detective work. I should really start carrying pen and paper. I am horrible with names. It will be good to have a detailed first hand account on the record.
45 posted on 12/17/2003 8:46:50 AM PST by AZHSer
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To: AZHSer
I just got off the phone with this brave protest warrior. He's going to email me a detailed account of his experience. Here's a few bullets from his account:

He simply stood quietly in the hangar with his Coward Dean/Draft Dodger sign. He was not yelling, or talking, or anything.

The verbal abuse started first. Then the kicking, shoving, punching, elbowing, etc. He said the experience was like getting gang-mugged.

His shins are bruised all to heck from the kicking, ribs are sore from the elbowing, etc.

At one time someone tried to perform a flying tackle on him. The policeman standing behind him deflected the tackler.

He thanks the police for getting him out of there in one piece as he wasn't sure he was going to make it out conscious or alive. He wasn't happy that they refused to protect his rights.

He recalls the Pat Buchanan rally of 2000 in Sierra Vista where the yelling, screeching, hate-filled protestors were allowed unfettered access to the entire rally area. Encouraged by their school teachers and let out of school to attend the Buchanan rally, their KKK/Racist/Nazi signs and loud chants were a serious disruption. The police did not move them to a specific "protest area" nor were they hindered in any way from expressing themselves and exercising their freedom of speech. Contrast that to yesterday's event where a single silent sign holder was beaten by the leftists and forced to leave by the police.

I've pointed him to Free Republic and we might see him on here soon.
46 posted on 12/17/2003 9:40:46 AM PST by Spiff (Have you committed one random act of thoughtcrime today?)
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To: AZHSer
Great job, my wife and I were planing to PREEP the howler monkey dean, but my wife is sick so we had to cancel our plan. Thank you for holding the Fort.
47 posted on 12/17/2003 10:24:46 AM PST by desertcry
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To: AZHSer
Sounds like another great freep! Sorry I couldn't be there, maybe next time. Chin Poker Lady reminds me of the Protest Warrior protest video in which a conservative protester repeats over and over to a liberal assaulter "Why do you resort to violence, sir?
48 posted on 12/17/2003 10:30:42 AM PST by \/\/ayne (I regret that I have but one cancellation notice to give to my local newspaper.)
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To: AZHSer
>>The closest thing we saw were two little Civil Air Patrol punks.<<

I sincerely hope you made that comment in jest.

It is shocking to me that you would insult the auxilary United States Air Force (http://www.cap.gov/). Their web site explains a lot about the organization and has links dedicated to providing information to clergy and parents.

The mission of the CAP cadet program is to "build responsible citizens for America through a positive approach to aerospace, leadership and life skills."

A better bunch of young (conservative) people you would be hard pressed to find.

These kids are interested in aviation and serving their country.

They are NOT "punks" in any way, shape for form.

Because they are wearing an approved uniform of the United States Air Force, they are not allowed to be partisan. Therefore, they were probably there because their unit is based there, and they are civic-minded and wanted to observe.

Because of my membership in the CAP many years ago, a) I recieved private pilot training, b) learned and practiced leadership skills, c) studied history and military traditions and honor, d) participated in actual search and rescue missions, e) learned survival and camping skills, and f) eventually realized my dream of serving my great nation.

Take a look at the information below.

"Punks," indeed!



From the web site:
THE ORGANIZATION

Nonprofit, 501(c)(3) corporation

THE AUXILIARY OF THE U.S. AIR FORCE (!!!!!!!)

More than 64,000 members, including 27,000 cadets ages 12- 21
Eight geographic regions, 52 wings, 1,700 units
National Headquarters at Maxwell Air Force Base, Ala., 160 support staff
World’s largest fleet (550) of single-engine, piston aircraft
Nation’s most extensive communications network
1,000 emergency services vehicles

AEROSPACE EDUCATION (MORE)
100 aerospace education workshops each year
Aerospace classroom materials, grades K through college
Nation’s premier annual aerospace education conference

CADET PROGRAMS (MORE)
Multi-step leadership training
Cadet glider and powered orientation flights, flight training scholarships
International Air Cadet Exchange program

OPERATIONS (MORE)
95% of nation’s inland search and rescue
100 lives saved per year
Aerial reconnaissance for homeland security
Disaster-relief and damage assessment
Transport for time-sensitive medical materials
Counterdrug missions

49 posted on 12/17/2003 10:39:39 AM PST by Gunrunner2
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To: AZHSer
And, from the history of CAP:

"The CAP coastal patrol flew 24 million miles, found 173 submarines, attacked 57, hit 10 and sank two. By Presidential Executive Order, CAP became an auxiliary of the Army Air Forces in 1943.

A German commander later confirmed that coastal U-boat operations were withdrawn from the United States 'because of those damned little red and yellow airplanes.'

In all, CAP flew a half-million hours during the war, and 64 CAP aviators lost their lives in the line of duty.

The U.S. Air Force was created as an independent armed service in 1947, and CAP was designated as its official civilian auxiliary the following year."

Now. . .if you were calling those CAP cadets "punks" because you thought it was cute or funny, it was in bad taste.

If you called them punks because you actually believe them to be so, then you are wrong.

Either way, it's best to apologize for that remark.

(Didn't mean to blast, but these are good kids and we need to show them respect and support them. They are, after all, the future that will keep us free.)
50 posted on 12/17/2003 10:53:43 AM PST by Gunrunner2
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