Sierra Vista, AZ Deanie-Weenie After Freep Report

Myself | 12/16/03 | AZHSer

[AZHSer]

First of all, let me state that this was not really a Dean rally, it was more like a Hate Bush rally. My husband and I arrived at the Sierra Vista Airport at around 2:10p.m. Dean was due to be there by 3. There was already a gentleman there carrying a sign that said Draft Dodger on one side and Coward Dean on the other. He was also passing out leaflets containing information concerning Dean's little skiing trip he took after getting a medical deferment. Another couple, both Republican Precinct Committeemen, and the leader of the Cochise County Young Repulicans were there. Nine in all.

Our original objective was to assist For Our Grandchildren in passing thier literature concerning Social Security reform. For more information about this organization, please visit http://www.forourchildren.org. The pictures from this event and others they have attended will be posted there. Three of them drove down from Tucson with signs and pamplets. Thanks Guys! In addition to thier signs, my husband and I carried copies of Just Another Lurker's I Want You Help Stop Terrorism and Oppression - Vote Republican graphic.

In order to fill the hanger they bused in 2 busloads of people. They also bused in the 8th grade classes from Huachuca City (Middle?) School.

Before Dean arrived, the guy with the Draft Dodger sign went into the hangar. He was cussed at, kicked, poked, shoved, ect. The S.V. Police Department had to surround him to pull him out to keep him from getting hurt. He was able to keep his good humor though. Several people came outside and apologised to him saying that he had as much right to be there as anyone else. Some of these folks left.

When Dean arrived we lined up to show him our signs. One old guy tried to get the Deanie-weenies to use thier signs to cover ours. He could not get anyone to do this. As a result Dean got an eyeful of our signs. It was fairly quiet while he was inside except for this dirty hippie type guy quoting made derogetory poetry about President Bush. There was also an eighth grader that had passed out in the hangar. His teacher and a friend carried him out. Aside from calling 911, nobody helped them. The kid had to lie down on the cold pavement until the paramedics got there. I allowed the teacher to use my cell to call the school and make arrangements. Hope he is okay. During the whole thing there were a lot of folks leaving or just milling around outside of the hangar.

Things heated up after Dean left. People leaving were generally nice unil they saw hubby and my signs. At one point I was surrounded by a group of people, led by the hippie poet who were making some very ugly comments. After they left, this hippie skank got right in my face screaming about the environment and how the luekimia cluster we are experiencing down here is Bush's and Ft.Huachuca's fault. They have aready proven it's caused by naturally occurring tungsten in the soil and when I started to refute her she pointed her finger in in my face, screamed that a vote for Bush was a vote for killing her child and then poked me on the chin as hard as she could. I told her she needed to leave or I would get the police and my hubby came over to make sure I was okay. Her husband (the hippie poet) came and got her and led her away.

An old guy screaming at the Draft Dodger guy attracted the attention of Wall Street Journal reporter Jackie Calmes. She was very biased. She wanted to know what the difference was between Dean's dodging and the year Bush took off from the reserves to campaign for his Dad. My husband stepped in and gave her information regarding the difference in active duty and reserve units. She kept insisting that Bush was AWOL at that time and that we were being inconsistant to point out Dean's dodging. She did take notes on what my hubby told her so maybe she will check it out.

All in all, it was a good FReep. We handed out almost all of the info from For Our Grandchildren and made some new friends. Hopefully, next time there will be more of us.

[yoe]

"...then poked me on the chin as hard as she could."Oohhh...I would have been an embarrassment to us all I am afraid, as I couldn't have held my temper. Good work and thanks for the report!

[Redbob]

Great report! Good job.

But remember: Proofreading is your friend.

[.cnI redruM]

More compassionate followers of Howard Mean! Congratulations.

[Spiff]

I've got a call in to the gentleman with the Coward Dean/Draft Dodger sign who was roughed up in the hangar. I had to do some detective work to figure out who he was, but your clues are what lead me to him. He called back and talked to my wife briefly. He says he has several bruises from the encounter. I will be calling him and getting a more complete report later and posting it here.

[AZHSer]

Thanks for your detective work. I should really start carrying pen and paper. I am horrible with names. It will be good to have a detailed first hand account on the record.

[Spiff]

I just got off the phone with this brave protest warrior. He's going to email me a detailed account of his experience. Here's a few bullets from his account:

He simply stood quietly in the hangar with his Coward Dean/Draft Dodger sign. He was not yelling, or talking, or anything.

The verbal abuse started first. Then the kicking, shoving, punching, elbowing, etc. He said the experience was like getting gang-mugged.

His shins are bruised all to heck from the kicking, ribs are sore from the elbowing, etc.

At one time someone tried to perform a flying tackle on him. The policeman standing behind him deflected the tackler.

He thanks the police for getting him out of there in one piece as he wasn't sure he was going to make it out conscious or alive. He wasn't happy that they refused to protect his rights.

He recalls the Pat Buchanan rally of 2000 in Sierra Vista where the yelling, screeching, hate-filled protestors were allowed unfettered access to the entire rally area. Encouraged by their school teachers and let out of school to attend the Buchanan rally, their KKK/Racist/Nazi signs and loud chants were a serious disruption. The police did not move them to a specific "protest area" nor were they hindered in any way from expressing themselves and exercising their freedom of speech. Contrast that to yesterday's event where a single silent sign holder was beaten by the leftists and forced to leave by the police.

I've pointed him to Free Republic and we might see him on here soon.

[desertcry]

Great job, my wife and I were planing to PREEP the howler monkey dean, but my wife is sick so we had to cancel our plan. Thank you for holding the Fort.

[\/\/ayne]

Sounds like another great freep! Sorry I couldn't be there, maybe next time. Chin Poker Lady reminds me of the Protest Warrior protest video in which a conservative protester repeats over and over to a liberal assaulter "Why do you resort to violence, sir?

[Gunrunner2]

>>The closest thing we saw were two little Civil Air Patrol punks.<<

I sincerely hope you made that comment in jest.

It is shocking to me that you would insult the auxilary United States Air Force (http://www.cap.gov/). Their web site explains a lot about the organization and has links dedicated to providing information to clergy and parents.

The mission of the CAP cadet program is to "build responsible citizens for America through a positive approach to aerospace, leadership and life skills."

A better bunch of young (conservative) people you would be hard pressed to find.

These kids are interested in aviation and serving their country.

They are NOT "punks" in any way, shape for form.

Because they are wearing an approved uniform of the United States Air Force, they are not allowed to be partisan. Therefore, they were probably there because their unit is based there, and they are civic-minded and wanted to observe.

Because of my membership in the CAP many years ago, a) I recieved private pilot training, b) learned and practiced leadership skills, c) studied history and military traditions and honor, d) participated in actual search and rescue missions, e) learned survival and camping skills, and f) eventually realized my dream of serving my great nation.

Take a look at the information below.

"Punks," indeed!



From the web site:
THE ORGANIZATION

Nonprofit, 501(c)(3) corporation

THE AUXILIARY OF THE U.S. AIR FORCE (!!!!!!!)

More than 64,000 members, including 27,000 cadets ages 12- 21
Eight geographic regions, 52 wings, 1,700 units
National Headquarters at Maxwell Air Force Base, Ala., 160 support staff
World’s largest fleet (550) of single-engine, piston aircraft
Nation’s most extensive communications network
1,000 emergency services vehicles

AEROSPACE EDUCATION (MORE)
100 aerospace education workshops each year
Aerospace classroom materials, grades K through college
Nation’s premier annual aerospace education conference

CADET PROGRAMS (MORE)
Multi-step leadership training
Cadet glider and powered orientation flights, flight training scholarships
International Air Cadet Exchange program

OPERATIONS (MORE)
95% of nation’s inland search and rescue
100 lives saved per year
Aerial reconnaissance for homeland security
Disaster-relief and damage assessment
Transport for time-sensitive medical materials
Counterdrug missions

[Gunrunner2]

And, from the history of CAP:

"The CAP coastal patrol flew 24 million miles, found 173 submarines, attacked 57, hit 10 and sank two. By Presidential Executive Order, CAP became an auxiliary of the Army Air Forces in 1943.

A German commander later confirmed that coastal U-boat operations were withdrawn from the United States 'because of those damned little red and yellow airplanes.'

In all, CAP flew a half-million hours during the war, and 64 CAP aviators lost their lives in the line of duty.

The U.S. Air Force was created as an independent armed service in 1947, and CAP was designated as its official civilian auxiliary the following year."

Now. . .if you were calling those CAP cadets "punks" because you thought it was cute or funny, it was in bad taste.

If you called them punks because you actually believe them to be so, then you are wrong.

Either way, it's best to apologize for that remark.

(Didn't mean to blast, but these are good kids and we need to show them respect and support them. They are, after all, the future that will keep us free.)

[AppyPappy]

You should have planted someone with a Hillary for President sign. I wonder what the hippie would have done with that.

[Chad Fairbanks]

A bump! and...

and then poked me on the chin as hard as she could.

I believe that is assault, or assault and battery - she wouldn't have gotten away with it had it been me. She would have gone straight to jail, do not pass go, do not collect 200 dollars. Jail.

[Chad Fairbanks]

The closest thing we saw were two little Civil Air Patrol punks.

I hope the use of the term "punks" wasn't meant to be derogatory... Civil Air Patrol was a great organization - at least for me. Many lost hikers and general aviation pilots owe their lives to "Civil Air Patrol Punks".

I should know - I was a "Civil Air Patrol Punk" as a teenager... ;0)

[AZHSer]

No offense to the organization on a whole, sir, but these two were indeed punks. At the annual fly-in the one kid after repeatedly being warn stepped out on the wing of our friends plane and dented it. He could have done some serious damage to the gas tank. Neither he nor the command seemed to take the complaint seriously. The other was more interested in walking to the Huachuca City Circle K with his girlfriend than doing the job he was supposed to do. The CAP my have had a glorious past and I respect that, but I stand by my remark concerning these two particular individuals.

[Chad Fairbanks]

Thanks, GunRunner - you nailed it down. I was a cadet as a teenager in the New Hampshire Wing, and was qualified in Communications, SAR, Radiological Monitoring etc... When I was in the Navy, I joined as a Senior at the Squadron at Oceana NAS in the Virginia Wing.

I don't know what CAP is like today, but 15 or so years ago it was a great organization...

[Seeking the truth]

Is that graphic your design?

[Gunrunner2]

Then you should have attacked those INDIVIDUALS---NOT the CAP.


They are kids and learning to be responsible. The leadership should have responded more responsibly. That they did not is not a reflection on the CAP, but on those particular people. If this supposed incident did happen as you describe, then you and your friends should have looked up the state Wing's contact numbers and given them a call. I assure you, corrective action would have been taken double-quick! As an aux USAF organization, the USAF and CAP do not take lightly such negative behavior.

"The CAP my have had a glorious past ". . .The CAP continues its tradition of service and provide a much needed service to our great nation. Just thought you should know.

[Spiff]

No.

[Seeking the truth]

Do you know whose it is?

[Gunrunner2]

Still a wonderful organization.

They even assumed anti-drug interdiction missions as well as flying border patrol.

Congrats on your CAP (and subsequent) service.