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Vanity: Does ANYBODY actually celebrate Kwanzaa?

Posted on 12/19/2003 12:07:23 AM PST by Junior_G

Politically correct lefties like to mention Christmas, Hanukkah, and Kwanzaa all in the same breath, implying that they are equally legitimate holiday celebrations enjoyed by different groups. Christmas and Hanukkah both have rich histories to back them up, and millions of people celebrate these holidays worldwide; but does anybody actually celebrate Kwanzaa? Liberals are absolutely in love with the concept of Kwanzaa as the Black Americans' alternative to Christmas; but do any Black Americans actually celebrate it?
Kwanzaa is a holiday that was invented by a left-wing activist college professor in 1966 as a holiday for Black Americans to celebrate African culture and practice the tenets of socialism. How many black families were actually willing to abandon their Christmas traditions in favor of this new holiday, made up willy-nilly by a radical campus nutjob? If anybody on this forum has ever actually met somebody that celebrates this holiday, I'd love to hear about it. I have a sneaking suspicion that next to nobody celebrates it.
If you'll recall, some number of years ago a Texaco executive was canned after being recorded making a disparaging comment about Kwanzaa. Today, to make a joke about Kwanzaa is considered no better than delivering a racial slur; but shouldn't bogus socialist holidays----as a general rule----be soundly ridiculed? I'm curious what people's thoughts are on this one...particularly black contributors to this forum. Liberals act like all black people celebrate Kwanzaa, but all the black people I know celebrate Christmas.


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To: Junior_G
You asked for it. I'm on my PocketPC right now, but when I have access to my PC and my Kwanzaa link list, I will post it.

Ron Everett (aka. Maulana Karenga), the leader of a violent racist gang of black Marxist thugs called US attempted to create a religion called Kawaida. Kwanzaa is an offshoot of that religion. Both were intended as an alternative to Christianity, which Everett (aka. Maulana) calls "spookism".

The racist observance was invented around the same time Everett was in prison for torturing two teenage girls. Everett and an associate had suspected the girls, who lived in a commune with him, of putting "crystals" in his food and had tortured the girls overnight by forcing them to disrobe, eat caustic detergeant, putting their toes in a vice, whipping them with an extension cord, and burning them and their various orifices with a soldering iron. He did at least 5 years in prison for this crime.

Later, at a meeting in a UCLA student union lunch room about who would run the new black studies program, some members of the rival Black Panthers heckled Everett during his presentation. After the meeting, Everett's gang shot and killed 2 of those same Panthers before they could leave the building.

Everett went on to capitalize on his violent, racist history and tendencies and his Marxist worldview (he is a self-described Marxist) to qualify for the position, which he hold to this day, of head of the black studies program at UC-Long Beack.

Kwanzaa was designed to spread Everett's bizarre religious and Marxist beliefs. It is a sham. There is no harvest nor harvest festival in December in Africa. No tribe in Africa celebrates anything remotely similar. Only a small piece of Africa knows Swahili. Maize is not an African crop. Etc. You should have the picture by now.

The 7 themes or ideas of Kwanzaa are racially/culturally divisive and even Marxist by design. They are the same identical tenets used by the Symbianese Liberation Army, the terrorist group who kidnapped Patty Hearst and murdered at least one security guard.

Rotten man. Rotten holiday. Rotten ideas.

101 posted on 12/19/2003 6:01:55 AM PST by Spiff (Have you committed one random act of thoughtcrime today?)
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To: GeronL; Jim Robinson
haha, I gotcha... but really, we need a FREEPER DAY!

Great idea! Mr. Robinson, what date did FR officially go online ?

102 posted on 12/19/2003 6:04:28 AM PST by BSunday (I'm not the bad guy)
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To: Junior_G
After reading the first 100 or so posts and links, I must say this is quite a fascinating read. I didn't know much about Kwanzaa before, and now I know more than I'd ever want to. It occurs to me that this whole story could easily be right out of a Tom Wolfe novel. The tradgedy is that it is not fiction, it's true, all the way down to the convicted con man/sadist becoming chair of a black studies department in a state university. It could only happen in America, folks.
103 posted on 12/19/2003 6:15:33 AM PST by massadvj
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To: Junior_G
I'm white & proud and I demand to be able to celebrate Kawanza!
104 posted on 12/19/2003 6:20:02 AM PST by Delbert
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To: Vision; All
For what it's worth, the kwanzaa board games my boss bought one year is still sitting on the shelf three years later. No one asked if I sell kwanzaa candles,etc. but everyone sure celebrates christmas.

105 posted on 12/19/2003 6:24:03 AM PST by cyborg
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
Bump for a later read. Thanks Whyisa!
106 posted on 12/19/2003 6:33:33 AM PST by secret garden (And then, there are those who need a smack)
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To: G.Mason
Care to say why?

To be honest ..I have never questioned them as to why they celebrate Kwanzaa ..

Kind of like they don't question the holidays that I celebrate.

107 posted on 12/19/2003 6:37:39 AM PST by Mo1 (House Work, If you do it right , will kill you!)
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To: Junior_G
My girl is in first grade. I was checking her homework before it got turned in. One of the assignments was to correct the punctuation on the sentence "i will celebrate Kwanzaa".

My daughter fixed the punctuation but wrote, I will not celebrate Kwanzaa.".

I thought it was great that she had the presence of mind at 6 to recognize and reject indoctrination!!!!
108 posted on 12/19/2003 6:41:55 AM PST by DannyTN
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To: Junior_G
I'll bet you, dollars yo doughnuts, mafree doesn't, sincerly, celebrate kwanzaa.
109 posted on 12/19/2003 6:42:57 AM PST by philetus (Keep doing what you always do and you'll keep getting what you always get)
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To: Hank Rearden
re: Each year, around this time, during the Airing of the Grievances, we bitch about Kwanzaa.)))

LOL--

111 posted on 12/19/2003 6:57:40 AM PST by Mamzelle
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To: Spiff
I was just thinking the same thing...it's virtually disapeared....not ever mentioned.....BTW, re the rumor about Michael Jackson joing the Muslims...it ain't true..he'd NEVER wear a bow-tie..
112 posted on 12/19/2003 6:59:43 AM PST by ken5050
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To: Junior_G
Since it was developed about 15 years before Kwanza, does that make Wicca slightly more legitimate?
113 posted on 12/19/2003 7:00:56 AM PST by exile (Exile - Helen Thomas tried to lure me into her Gingerbread House.)
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To: exile
Kwanzaa is like the WNBA. I don't know anyone who's into it but that doesn't stop the media from ramming it down our throats.
114 posted on 12/19/2003 7:04:22 AM PST by bigeasy_70118
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To: FormerACLUmember
How did Ron Everett become a Doctor? Where did he get his doctorate degree? What was in in? What was his thesis about? Did he do all this education before or after he was convicted and spent time for torturing two women?
115 posted on 12/19/2003 7:04:52 AM PST by Protagoras (Hating Democrats doesn't make you a conservative.)
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To: Hank Rearden
I actually do celebrate Festivus with my friends of college. Every year on December 23, we go to a steakhouse and engage in Frank Costanza's various festivus traditions.

As the night winds down, someone always gets up in the middle of the restaurant and yells "Festivus isn't over until you pin me."

What's funny is, we decided to do a Christmas dinner every year and every year it just happened to fall on Dec 23, so we decided to call it Festivus and engage in the traditions handed down from Seinfeld.

116 posted on 12/19/2003 7:08:30 AM PST by bigeasy_70118
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To: GeronL
If there were to be a FReeper Day, it would have to coincide with Impeachment Day.
117 posted on 12/19/2003 7:23:10 AM PST by savedbygrace
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To: Junior_G
Kwanzaa is a total fraud.

No wonder Liberals celebrate it and their fellow-traveling Plantation Blacks jealously love it!

118 posted on 12/19/2003 7:29:50 AM PST by Gritty ("Americans should select and prefer Christians as their rulers."-John Jay{1st Supreme Court Justice})
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To: Junior_G
"designed to promote strength and unity in black families and communities."

Based on recent statistics regarding out of wedlock births, black on black crime, etc. this doesn't seem to be working.

119 posted on 12/19/2003 7:32:20 AM PST by MEGoody
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To: bigeasy_70118
It's a Festivus miracle!

Kwanza Schmanza!
120 posted on 12/19/2003 7:42:34 AM PST by petercooper (DEAN = Democrats Experiencing Another Nightmare)
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