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"Have a Heart for Saddam": Pro-US / Classic German Sarcasm
"Spiegel-Online" ^ | December 22, 2003 | Henryk M. Broder

Posted on 12/22/2003 8:17:09 PM PST by longjack

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Ein Herz für Saddam

By  Henryk M. Broder

Never before could a deposed dictator reckon with so much sympathy. What does the suffering of the killed and tortured mean, anyway, compared to the humiliation of being filmed during a saliva probe?

Diktator Hussein nach seiner Festnahme: Als hätte man Mutter Teresa beim Schwarzfahren erwischt
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Dictator Hussein after his capture: As if Mother Theresa had been caught dodging fares.
Hardly was the grand ZDF-Gala "Ein Herz für Kinder" (Have a Heart for Children) with Thomas Gottschalk as host and many VIP's as donation gatherers over, than the preparations for the next Super-Gala, with even more prominent participants had begun: "Ein Herz für Saddam" (Have a Heart for Saddam).

Scarcely had the deposed dictator taken a shower and changed his clothes after his arrest, then the first of the VIP's took it upon themselves to announce what should not, in any way, shape or form, happen to Saddam Hussein. Secretary of State Fischer explained: "Our position on the death penalty is a fundamental one. We oppose it." Fisher was also among the first ones who congratulated the Americans on their success. He did it, to be sure, without any expression of joy on his face and in a voice you would use when you congratulate a neighbour you hate who had just won the lottery.

Even the "Representative for Human Rights" in the Federal Government, Claudia Roth, who was last seen in a war zone when she went to the Bayreuth Play Festival, spoke out decidedly against the death penalty and for a "fair, open and transparent trial" for Saddam. The chairwoman of the Committee for Human Rights in the Bundestag, Christa Nickels, spoke in the same tone: "The death penalty isn't compatible with human rights."

Bundeskanzler Schröder: Als würde es sich um einen Familienvater handeln, der im Suff seine Familie schikaniert hat
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Federal Chancellor Schröder: As if it was a father who harasses his family while drunk

But it wasn't only German big-wigs who were concerned about the life and well-being of the deposed Iraqi despot. UN Secretary Genera, Kofi Annan, stated that the United Nations was against the death penalty and did not impose it in any of their courts. Cardinal Renato Martino piped up from the Vatican. After he had seen pictures of "this destroyed man" the high cleric confessed he felt sympathy for the former dictator, who "was treated like a cow" in American captivity.

Nicole Choueiry, the spokeswoman for Amnesty International, did remind us of Saddam's victims, if in a rather paradoxical way: "I don't think imposing the death penalty would make the dead alive again. And, I don't think that those who would impose it would be any different than Saddam Hussein." The Swedish Prime Minister, Göran Persson, successor to the murdered Olof Palme, whose murderers are still being intensively searched for, made, instead, a practical suggestion: Saddam could, after his sentencing in an international court, serve the prison sentence in Sweden - presumably in low security penal system, together with troubled teenagers, who are rehabilitated through sailing jaunts and mountain climbing.

It was an absurd performance which had already started within a few hours after Saddam's arrest. In an ARD-Special Ulrich Wickert asked the question, "If these pictures hurt the dignity of mankind", and then went on to deny it in a long-winded argument. A little later on "heute", Marietta Slomka complained about the "degrading manner of the show" which was made of Saddam. In the "Kulturzeit" on 3Sat, the psychoanalyst Horst Eberhard Richter philosophized over the power of the pictures, which was the reason that many viewers suddenly felt sympathy for Saddam.

With every statement the brutal mass murderer disappeared further and further into the distance, while the tortured man moved ever closer and closer, the one who had to live like a rat in a hole, who was degraded and humiliated, and for whom the same innocent until proven guilty principle should apply as it is for any shoplifter awaiting trial. One could have believed Mother Teresa had been caught dodging fares and now must deal with a show trial now whose outcome would be completely out of proportion to the severity of her crime.

Now it isn't the principle of the revenge that counts in Germany, rather rehabilitation, which is why even Egon Krenz, who was sentenced to six and a half years for homicide at the inner-German border, was released after only four years in custody, most of which he had been allowed to serve as an overnighter. The court saw a "favorable social prognosis" as applicable in his case, which means that the danger that he would ever again have the opportunity to give an order to shoot is so negligible that it could be neglected.

Hingerichteter Diktator Nikola Ceausescu (1989): Kurzer Prozess mit dem
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Executed dictator Nikola Ceausescu (1989): Quick trial with the "Conducatore"

Using the same logic, you could also send Saddam behind Swedish drapery for a couple of years and then release him again as soon as the situation has stabilized itself in Iraq. He wouldn't even have to regret what he did, just like Krenz. He said at his early release: "I have never felt like a murderer, rather as a responsible party in a sovereign country." Now, Krenz was, in spite of all the efforts of the DDR to reach world standards, small potatoes, but these are words that Saddam can scream at to those judging him even before the pronouncement of judgement.

There isn't any argument for imposing the death penalty on mass murderers who have acted as responsible parties in a sovereign state - besides one: Dead men never come back. The civilized world closed both eyes and breathed a sigh of relief when Nicola Ceausescu was put against a wall and shot exactly 14 years ago. But there it was Romanians who put on a quick trial for their "Conducatore", and besides, Claudia Roth wasn't Human Right Representative of the Federal Government yet.

Meanwhile, Saddam Hussein hasn't been sentenced yet, not even accused, and it is already being consulted over how one could save him from "The ultimate punishment", which Bush has talked about. The Spanish Secretary of State demanded a "common EU position" against the death penalty for the former dictator only a couple of days after the EU couldn't agree on a common position for a European constitution. The German Chancellor told "Bild am Sonntag", he is also an "opponent of the death penalty, that's a position of principle". Shouldn't Schröder have made such a statement a couple of weeks earlier during his visit to China where more than 1000 people were executed in 2002, most of whom were petty crooks, compared to Saddam? Why does his principle (and justifiable) aversion to the death penalty only come to Schröder's mind when it concerns a "dictator like Saddam Hussein".

'DDR-Funktionär
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DDR-Functionary Krenz (1999): "Favorable Social Prognosis"

On one hand, this may be related to the emotional structure of a society in which the Howard Carpendale's farewell tour triggers more mourning and dismay than the message of the mass graves which, in the meantime, were discovered in Iraq. On the other hand, it has to do with the businesslike hypocrisy which connects the voter with the voted for. The government isn't ashamed to first yell "not with us", only to scream "we want in!" afterwards when it concerns the awarding of contracts, while the pacifist masses take to the streets under the slogan of "no blood for oil", only to OK a little spilling of blood the end of the party - if it's against the right side: 26 per cent of the Germans regard the terrorist attacks as "legitimate acts of the resistance" in Iraq.

Where one's own moral demands are so relative, a "dictator like Saddam Hussein" is also only a relative villain. While exile Iraqis like the writer Hussain Al Mozany speak of a "catastrophe of apocalyptic proportions", which has left an "active, multifunctional murdering machine" in Iraq, the Chancellor talks only of a ruler "who has handled others in the worst way", as if it were a father who has harassed his family while drunk.

And while the Iraqis dig up their dead bodies to say farewell to them, the sympathy of the good guys is directed to a mass murderer who isn't allowed to murder any more. What does the suffering of the killed and tortured mean anyway, compared to the humiliation of being filmed during a saliva probe?

A couple of particularly sensitive cultural critics have already become indignant at the "invasion into Saddam's private life", because of the pictures of U.S. soldiers lounging about in Saddam's palaces and using his gold-painted bathrooms. Now it's the possibility that the man could atone for his atrocities with his life that puts them into preventative excitement. What's strange about the what-to-do-with-Saddam-discussion, however, above all, is that one aspect doesn't appear: Couldn't it be that death for Saddam is far too mild a punishment, that life-imprisonment without the possibility of release would be more appropriate?

Such a punishment should be accompanied with additional measures, though. It wouldn't suffice to simply lock Saddam up and to throw the key into the deepest part of the sea. The best thing would be to play a couple of hours of videos for him every day, tapes of Claudia Roth at the Greens party convention, interspersed with video clips of Andre Rieu and Jeanette Biedermann.

But no, it can't be done. A punishment must be strict, but it can't be unnecessarily gruesome.


© SPIEGEL ONLINE 2003

 

"Spiegel-Online"....Ein Herz für Saddam

Translated by longjack



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: fischer; germany; iraq; saddam; schroeder
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Thanks to BMCDA who gave me a heads up about this atricle.

I've translated Broder before during the Iraq II lead-up. He's had this viewpoint from the beginning, it seems.

longjack

1 posted on 12/22/2003 8:17:10 PM PST by longjack
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To: americanbychoice; An.American.Expatriate; a_Turk; austinTparty; BMCDA; CatoRenasci; demlosers; ...
German Ping
2 posted on 12/22/2003 8:17:59 PM PST by longjack
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To: longjack
The Krauts should know. They have an intimate knowledge of the death penalty, having once used it over 6 million times in a span of less than a decade.

I can't stand it when Europeans lecture us on human rights. The history of Europe is a history of unbridled savagery hedged once in a while by a pretty painting or a beautiful cathedral.
3 posted on 12/22/2003 8:24:23 PM PST by Thane_Banquo
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To: longjack

"Blondie, you bastard, where are you?"
4 posted on 12/22/2003 8:29:57 PM PST by Roscoe Karns
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To: longjack
Danke, Longjack. This was dry but FUNNY! Thanks again.
5 posted on 12/22/2003 8:46:33 PM PST by UnklGene
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To: longjack
Excellent piece. Thanks for the translation. Is this the same spiegel as "Der Spiegel?" I thought they were a liberal rag.
6 posted on 12/22/2003 10:51:59 PM PST by What Is Ain't
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To: longjack
ping!!!
7 posted on 12/22/2003 10:57:23 PM PST by lainde
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To: longjack
"I don't think imposing the death penalty would make the dead alive again"

Let's try it and see.

8 posted on 12/22/2003 11:12:10 PM PST by pbear8 ( sed libera nos a malo)
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To: longjack
Great job, Jack. I´ve found it, too - but I feared the translation, lol.

Merry Christmas,

Michael
9 posted on 12/23/2003 12:49:57 AM PST by Michael81Dus
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To: Thane_Banquo
Sorry, but you should not confuse history with present. You wanted Europeans to learn from the past - they have learned from the past. Therefore, Europe pays deep respect to the human rights, and while we are on it, just because the US is the oldest modern democracy, you have no permit-for-all regarding human rights. I do think that it´s not the behaviour of a human-rights-respecting state to put its enemies in cages without a fair trial.
10 posted on 12/23/2003 12:56:22 AM PST by Michael81Dus
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To: Michael81Dus; MeeknMing; PhilDragoo; nopardons; ntnychik; GeronL
All criminals accused of murder go into cages before a trial.

Good enough for OJ, good enough for Saddam.

But the EU and UN have zero say.

This will be handled within Iraq despite the wailing of outsiders.

The blue helmets are a proven joke in Rowanda, Somalia, and Bosnia.

Cowards before the gun.

Corrupt and Criminal.

Kofi Anan had better watch his own butt and country.

Don't mess with the US.

You ain't seen nuthin' yet.

Sit back and watch what is coming next.
11 posted on 12/23/2003 1:14:39 AM PST by autoresponder (SLICK http://0access.tripod.com/legacy.html OLDIES BG MUSIC: http://0access.tripod.com/slick.html)
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To: autoresponder
I was referring to Camp X-Ray...
12 posted on 12/23/2003 1:28:32 AM PST by Michael81Dus
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To: Michael81Dus
I was referring to Camp X-Ray...

They will have a fairer trial than 3000 Americans and other nationalities had. They started it, we'll finish it so go gaze at you navel while adults do what is needed.

13 posted on 12/23/2003 1:56:30 AM PST by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
So you basically say that if a kid throws sand at you, you´ll throw sand back? I thought you were better than the ba$tard$ of 9-11. I thought granting everyone a fair trial before the legal judge is what makes out a state who respects the rights of each and everyone (its enemies included!). If I followed your arguement, no murderer should get a fair trial - because he/she refused to grant its victim(s) a trial.

Oh, I forgot, you are an adult, I´m sorry that I took this blah-blah about human rights and justice for serious. My fault. Still, my hope is the Supreme Court.
14 posted on 12/23/2003 2:23:07 AM PST by Michael81Dus
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They are illegal foreign combatants.

The same as spies.

Not soldiers as under the Geneva Convention.

They could have been summarily shot or hung on the spot.

We did that in WWII.

We did not round up and execute innocent civilians and legal military as is the custom of Europeans and Orientals.

Not nation or group or organization will dare challenge the USA and Europe is a weakling Socialist PC joke today.

If you think Kaddafy was scared stiff you should see the Saudis.

As nations that elected not to back our hand fully in Iraq as well as Afghanistan and also supplied Saddam Hussein and Islamic terrorists with illegal banned weaponry the USA has no interest in listening to the PC moralistic prattle of those who were the partners of our enemies.

Any nation that picks and chooses based on political and financial interests does so at it's peril.

Europe cannot raise an effective fighting force that could defeat a troop of Girl Scouts in America.

In short, you are not a serious country.

How many divisions does the UN or EU have?

What is their record?

Can they all train, fight, win together?

What did Germany do in Bosnia?

Even Canada is defenseless today.

Compare the unemployment of France and Canada to the USA.

Compare the % spent on defense and military spent in Frnce and Germany to the USA.

France is a historical bunch of sniveling cowards who sell out their people.

Germany?

Bad record in world wars so far and no chance of ever getting from beneath the Socialist/Greenies skirts.

America deals with realities while Europe pretends it is a game.

The Russkies, France, and Germany armed Iraq and Islamic terrorists.

Germany is a hotbed of Islamics that you coddle and allow to fester.

Much of 911 was planned in Germany.

The idiotic statements of French, Canadian, and German politicians will never leave our memories.

Like it or not, only the USA hs the guts, men, and will to do the job.

Words are easy, performance under fire not easy.

Performance hiding under politicians and illegal arms dealer's skirts impossible.

Germany is losing American bases and troops that will go to deserving and courageous nations.

As far as Camp X-Ray in Cuba, that is none of the UN's, EU's, or Europe's business.

You must have confused America with some wimpy nation that cowtows to "Olde Europe".

Get a clue.

Europe is not a bull, it is a steer.

Self castrated.

The world was told:

"You are either withUS or against US!"

You choose Saddam Hussein.

Sooner or later European politicicians, bureaucrats, illegal arms manufacturers/suppliers will pay the bill.

It was your choice.

Why one of my grandfathers left Germany on the ship "Amerika" in 1908 for the USA.

Shortly that ship was renamed "America" and served thru WWII as a US Naval vessel.

America is the sole giant of world nations.

The USSR fought and lost in Afghanistan for over 8 years and Russia today can not defend their cities from Islamic terrorists.

The USA fought and won two (2) wars in well under two (2) years with less deaths per week then in Washington DC.

How many seconds would it take an American Girl Scout troop to defeat France?

As I said, sit back and watch.

Now that France and Germany are banned from Iraq contracts except as subcontractors, just imagine how you will feel when the same happens in Syria and Iran.

You heard or read what Kuddafy said:

"I will do anything the Americans want after seeing what happened in Iraq!"

Unfortunately Germany does not have the guts of courage of the UK.

You played the wrong hand.

You allied with the new NAZIS and fought the USA in UN voting.

Live with.

Or not.

Or not.

If you cannot elect honest reliable politicians and get your act together be prepared to suffer the consequences.

Bold talk and $1 will not get you a cup of good coffee.

Sorry you are stuck with that bunch of lefties, Socialists, Enviro-Nutzies, Commies, and Isalmic terrorists, but it's not our job to play nanny after 50 years.

America has more people of German blood than any other.


Nut it looks like the good Germans, French, Belgians, left Europe for America long ago.

We have the ones with the brass to fight in a just cause.

Sixty nations joined the US in a Coalition of the Willing.

France and Germany, UN and EU thought they could derail the USA and spit in our faces for $s you traded with Saddam Hussein.

You, in effect, were allies of a terrorist and terrorist protecting nation of Iraq.

They lost.

You lose.

As for Camp X-Ray in Cuba on US Military property, what does the UN or EU or Castro plan to do about it?

Put on blue helmets again?

We need the belly laughs........

(We will deal with the ACLU and SCOTUS, have no doubt........)





15 posted on 12/23/2003 2:55:53 AM PST by autoresponder (SLICK http://0access.tripod.com/legacy.html OLDIES BG MUSIC: http://0access.tripod.com/slick.html)
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To: Texasforever; MeeknMing; PhilDragoo; GeronL; nopardons




Euros are weird and childish

Equating scummy terrorists with civilian criminals

Euros think they can tell us to live by their wimpy PC codes

Tell us how to handle unlawful foreign military matters as if they were US citizens with Constitutional rights.

Stranger still, they think we listen to them or the lefties on SCOTUS.

A National Socialist country still full of neo-NAZIS and NAZIS telling America to be "sensitive" while they sell arms to our terrorist enemies.

Now there is a real credibility gap somehow.

On top of that the Poles can now kick the butts of Saddam's allies France and Germany.

Probably before lunch.

16 posted on 12/23/2003 3:11:22 AM PST by autoresponder (SLICK http://0access.tripod.com/legacy.html OLDIES BG MUSIC: http://0access.tripod.com/slick.html)
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To: What Is Ain't
Is this the same spiegel as "Der Spiegel?" I thought they were a liberal rag.

The same "Spiegel". I think they do a good job of reporting issues from either end of the spectrum. Did you see the posts from them on the Hussein capture slideshow, or the International press reports on Hussein's capture?

"Spiegel" is the place to go to find out what's happening in Germany, AFAIK. They always seem to be on top of all news worthy events, and their site is multi-faceted. They have good Bundesliga coverage, for example.

I have to give them a plug for their reporting and A plus for their site.

longjack

17 posted on 12/23/2003 3:14:47 AM PST by longjack
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To: autoresponder
You call my country national socialist and you claim that my country sells arms to US enemies? Now prove that claim! And I mean: show me evidence that the German government authorizes the delivery of arms to "terrorist enemies".

18 posted on 12/23/2003 3:30:29 AM PST by Michael81Dus
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To: Michael81Dus; All
Merry Christmas

Ebenfalls.

Frohe Weihnachten und einen guten Rutsch!

To all:

You're welcome (for the thank you's).

longjack

19 posted on 12/23/2003 3:31:34 AM PST by longjack
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To: autoresponder; Prodigal Son; OESY
I don´t know where to start with at your rant. And I don´t know the relation of unemployment with a war on terrorism.
Apparently, you don´t understand the mission of the UN. The UN is no world government nor does it intend to be one. The UN doesn´t want divisions.

You completely fail to understand Germanys position, and you don´t understand that opposition to the Iraq war doesn´t mean that Germany supported Hussein.

Why do you start with the Iraq war? We were talking about Camp X-Ray? Is that your style of discussion? Rant, insult, claim BS, distract?

Who decides wether the prisoners of X-Ray are terrorists? Usually courts (jurisdiction) do. In X-Ray, the US government does. So where have you lost the great invention "three branches of power".

What kind of citizen are you when you even don´t follow your Supreme Courts decisions? Btw, most of SCs justices are appointed by Republican presidents, afaik.

Well, as for the WWII record: no surprise. Who saved British, French and even Russian butts? The US... If it were not for the US, Europe would speak deutsch. Thank God that it came the other way. Who wanted to be oppressed by brown-shirts?

You claimed that Germany armed Iraq, give evidence for that. In fact, you know so few about us, that you don´t even understand the background for my governments and peoples opposition against the war.

You´re right, we´ve chosen our side. We are on the side of justice, liberty, human rights and freedom for all. In general one can say that we´re on the same side. Unfortunately, in some particular issues, the US government still lacks some understanding that some rights must be granted to ALL...
20 posted on 12/23/2003 3:47:18 AM PST by Michael81Dus
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