[Sabertooth]

Lobbyists working with the White House said Bush is developing a plan that would allow immigrants to cross the border legally if jobs are waiting for them. The sources said the administration also wants to provide a way for some undocumented workers in the United States to move toward legal status.

Here it comes.

For those playing at home...

"undocumented workers" = Illegal Aliens.

"legal status" = Amnesty.

Bush will try to make the plan more palatable to conservatives by including stricter entry controls, including increased use of technology at the border and steps toward better enforcement of current visa restrictions and reporting requirements, sources said.

If true, the President is either badly advised, or seriously deluded.

Amnesty for Illegals is absolutely unpalatable, not only for conservatives, but also for most Americans.

The White House plan is being designed by Bush's senior adviser, Karl Rove, in consultation with the domestic policy staff.

Who knew? Can we get rid of him yet?

Sources said the White House's biggest concern is that the new mechanism not penalize people who had followed the law and reward those who had not.

Simple solution (in Rove-thought): reward Illegals while not penalizing law-abiding immigrants.

Logical consequence (in harsh reality): more Illegals.

[farmfriend]

Thanks, Sabertooth!

[azhenfud]

I will never vote for ANYONE who endorses criminal justification for Illegaliens. Including BUSH. PERIOD.

[11B3]

The administration needs to spend some time reading these threads. And the president needs to be rid of Rove. (No, America needs to be rid of Rove, IMHO.)

The immigration issue is the one area that gets failing grades from me on president Bush. Another reply above touched on this: if there were a truly conservative candidate who would reduce the size of the FedGov, secure the borders, and bring this nation back to using the Constitution as the standard by which all laws are written, I'd vote for that person.

[Torie]

What you might be missing, is that if folks come in under some system, after which they leave, that leaves less jobs for the illegals. Even if the folks pre vetted south of the border, and in the US, don't leave, it at least might create a more rational system as to who gets the jobs that the economic imperatives demand go to Hispanics who don't speak English very well. In short, while not reducing the Hispanic influx, it might improve the quality. We shall see.

In any event, the idea that folks qualified to do "available" jobs in the US that live in Mexico, and can increase their wage by a factor of five, won't fill them, is in the end, an errant idea, whatever the laws, unless employers start going to jail in large numbers.

[Shermy]

Lobbyists working with the White House

Well, it's true. Lobbyists are writing the laws. Not even shy about it.

[GeronL]

Again. This and the spending spree is why I am not a Republican.

[GeronL]

Again. This and the spending spree is why I am not a Republican.

[Shermy]

Lobbyists working with the White House

Well, it's true. Lobbyists are writing the laws. Not even shy about it.

[Shermy]

Bush will try to make the plan more palatable to conservatives by including stricter entry controls, including increased use of technology at the border and steps toward better enforcement of current visa restrictions and reporting requirements, sources said.

Each a sop, intended to do nothing. The bogus "smart borders" plan redux.

[Barnacle]

[B Knotts]

Can we deport Rove?

[Victoria Delsoul]

Bush will try to make the plan more palatable to conservatives by including stricter entry controls, including increased use of technology at the border and steps toward better enforcement of current visa restrictions and reporting requirements, sources said.

This is perhaps a good way to stop the massive inflow of illegals. The illegals won't stop coming, so I don't see how to stop them. Besides, while there is a demand to fill unwanted low-paying jobs, and while there are greedy business owners hiring these workers, we will always have a problem with illegal immigration. So I think GW's plan is pretty good.

[BOBTHENAILER]

My friend, ya gotta take me off this ping list. I agree with most everything the participants here agree with, I have relatives in Bisbee, AZ, San Diego, Poway and New Mexico, and sympathize with the problema, but with all the IDIOTIC statements of "I Ain't gonna vote for Bush, or Republicans anymore" because of this 'perception' of amnesty, I gotta wonder:

Who the f-ck you gonna vote for?

Who the f-ck you gonna back?

You really want to see a RAT vctory anywhere cause you abstain from voting?

You gonna let the blood and sacrifice going on in Iraq, Afghanistan and all parts in between cloud your judgement on the ONE TRUE FREEDOM we have, VOTING, just because you have a friggin' CAUSE.

Illegal Aliens

Amnesty

ILLLEGAL ALIENS

AMNESTY

I've tried to be patient when I've been on these threads, but I gotta tell ya, important it is, but it is about a fly on an elephants ass right now, compared to other matters.

Flame away all on this thread and tell me how Howard Dean would solve your problema. Tell me how these endless circle jerk threads are gonna make a difference, unless you all play russian roulette and shoot your brains out for a protest non-vote just to show your illegal creds.

Gimme a friggin' break. Judicial nominees make this bullshit look like peanuts in an elephant cage.

Notwithstanding the wars we have going on, the RAT attempts at undermining everything we do in this country, the assault at developing our own natural resources, the destruction of Christian values, the leftist takeover of public schools, the eradication of the 1st, 2nd and other Amendments of our sacred constitution, we gotta have a whole friggin' thread on this SHIT?.

I realize it's importance, and I'll say it again, I agree with most everything here BUT, MORE IMPORTANT STUFF is depending on VOTERS. Not those who throw a vote away...end of rant.

[lainde]

If he attempts this policy, it will be his his first major mistake.

[Huck]

Amnesty for Illegals is absolutely unpalatable

Wanna bet?

[Dante3]

bttt

[StoneColdGOP]

The only way to get rid of Rove is to get rid of Bush.

And I'm thinking that's not such a bad idea.

[Pelham]

The White House plan is being designed by Bush's senior adviser, Karl Rove, in consultation with the domestic policy staff.

Who knew? Can we get rid of him yet?

Fire Rove's boss, and he goes too.