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The Delusion of Darwinian Natural Law
Acton Institute ^ | 12/27/03 | Marc D. Guerra

Posted on 12/27/2003 12:44:51 AM PST by bdeaner

The Delusion of Darwinian Natural Law

Marc D. Guerra

In a short, inconspicuous paragraph in the conclusion to the first edition of On the Origin of Species, Darwin speculates that "in the distant future … psychology will be based on a new foundation, that of the necessary acquirement of each mental power and capacity by gradation." One hundred and forty years later, Darwin's eerie prediction about the revolutionary effect of his work on human beings' self-understanding seems all too prophetic. After a century of dissemination, the once-novel theory of evolution is widely accepted as established scientific fact. Given the quasi-religious hold of evolutionary theory over the modern mind, it is not surprising that it should serve as the spiritual inspiration for developments within the field of psychology. First popularized in the 1970s by Harvard's Edward O. Wilson, evolutionary psychology, originally called sociobiology, interprets all human behavior in light of the evolutionary process. Evolutionary psychology aims to be a comprehensive science, explaining the origins and ends of every human behavior and institution.

Not wanting to be left behind, a number of conservative thinkers have let themselves be caught up in this movement. Conservatism initially identified evolution exclusively with Darwinian materialism and, therefore, viewed it as a fundamental threat to human dignity. But, recently, conservatives such as James Q. Wilson, Francis Fukuyama, and Charles Murray have used evolutionary psychology to show that morality is rooted in human biology. Fukuyama's The Great Disruption goes so far as to claim that "a great deal of social behavior is not learned but part of the genetic inheritance of man and his great ape forbears." Drawing on categories borrowed from evolutionary psychology, Fukuyama argues that human beings are drawn to the kind of moral order provided by traditional rules of trust and honesty.

Evolution's most ambitious and vocal conservative advocate, however, is political scientist Larry Arnhart. But where Wilson and Fukuyama speak of evolution generally, Arnhart appeals directly to Darwin himself. In Darwinian Natural Right: The Biological Ethics of Human Nature, Arnhart argues that conservative thought has fundamentally misunderstood Darwin. For Arnhart, Darwin is not a biological materialist but a modern disciple of Aristotle. Properly understood, Darwinism proves that morality is rooted in human biology. Indeed, Arnhart claims that Darwinism can identify twenty biological desires that are common to all human societies. The fulfillment or frustration of these desires provides universal standards for judging the morality of human social behavior. Darwinian natural right consists of the "right" to have these biological desires satisfied. Arnhart recently argued in the conservative religious journal First Things that both secular and religious conservatives currently "need Charles Darwin." By "adopting a Darwinian view of human nature," both groups would be able to give a rational, non-sectarian response to the prevailing dogma of moral relativism. For Arnhart, the attraction of Darwinism is essentially practical: It provides a "scientific"–not "metaphysical" or "sectarian"–basis for "conservative moral and political thought."

One has to question, however, the wisdom of evaluating any account of human nature primarily in terms of its political utility. But this does explain why, on every critical point, Arnhart lets his political concerns shape his theoretical defense of Darwinism. Consequently, Arnhart never really confronts conservatism's original charge that Darwinism reduces human beings to clever, biologically determined animals. But he does present natural lawyers with an intriguing and, by no means, inconsequential choice: Should they embrace Darwinism and give natural law conclusions the air of "scientific legitimacy," or should they continue to defend an unfashionable but richer account of human nature that transcends human biology?

The Biology of Morality

Essential to the Darwinian defense of morality is the belief that social behaviors are "biologically rooted" in human nature. Darwinians such as Arnhart start from the premise that human beings are "hard-wired" for specific species-preserving behaviors. Darwinism explains all human societies, ranging from families to political communities, as unintended byproducts of the evolutionary process. Social behaviors and institutions came into existence as evolutionary responses to "species-threatening" changes in man's environment. Friendships, marriages, families, and even political communities, all of which are commonly seen as vital features of a meaningful human life, have their origins outside of the moral universe. Every society came into existence in a world where "species-survival" and "species-extinction," not good and evil, were the fundamental human categories. Darwinism views sociality and morality as part of man's genetic inheritance–the adaptive means through which the species perpetuates itself. Contrary to popular belief, morality is really instrumental to the larger goal of individual and collective preservation.

Darwin's thesis that all species, including the human species, possess a biological drive for self-preservation is not novel. Arnhart, for example, frequently observes that Saint Thomas Aquinas, the natural law's classical exponent par excellence, makes a similar claim. And as Arnhart likes to note, Aquinas even once described natural right as "that which nature has taught to all animals." Aquinas's strongest statement on this matter, however, occurs in the context of a wider discussion of natural law. Aquinas there states that the natural law's second inclination, which man shares with all animals, directs him to preserve the species. But as Arnhart shows, Darwin extends this insight substantially further than Aquinas does. In contrast to Aquinas, Darwin believes that those behaviors that are necessary for the survival of the species gradually become woven into human biology itself. Over time, human beings eventually come to view behaviors that are necessary for survival as both meaningful and moral.

The Darwinian defense of morality characteristically points to the end of the family as illustrative of how morality is rooted in human biology. Arnhart himself traces the family back to the strong sexual drive of young men. Rooted in their "biological nature," this drive plays an important role in the preservation of the species, yet it also fulfills "the natural desire for conjugal bonding." Once properly channeled (Arnhart conspicuously never explains how or why this occurs), the sexual drive allows for the kind of bonding that naturally occurs within the family. The preservation of the family and, ultimately, of the species itself are the result of the "biological drive for sexual mating." Scrutinized from the Darwinian perspective, the biological desire for conjugal bonding is revealed to perform the necessary task of stabilizing society.

While Darwinism can defend the family as a natural institution, it is not a genuinely moral or spiritual defense. Wedded to biological materialism, Darwinism necessarily reduces the good to the useful–finally viewing the family as instrumental to evolution's larger goal of the preservation of society. While family life undoubtedly helps stabilize society, this clearly is not the only thing that is good about it. Arnhart's recognition of natural desires for "conjugal and familial bonding" shows that he is aware of this fact. But the logic of his position ultimately requires him to view the family in terms of its preservation of society.

The Morality of Biology

But is this really compatible with conservatism? Is it really possible to understand family life solely in terms of its role in the preservation of society? Setting aside for the moment any sacramental notion of marriage(not mere conjugal bonding) and family life, Darwinism would have one believe that a husband's self-conscious love for his wife or the personal sacrifices that parents willingly make for their children are byproducts of a primordial desire to perpetuate the species. Viewed from the perspective of human beings' lived experience, Darwinism's appreciation of the family is even more dehumanizing than modernity's view of marriage as simply a contractual arrangement.

Part of the reason for this flattening of the human horizon is Darwinism's systematic identification of the good with the flourishing of the species rather than with the self-conscious individual. There is then something fundamentally incoherent about the effort to defend the intrinsic goodness of morality on the basis of Darwinism. This incoherence, however, explains a number of oddities about the Darwinian defense of morality. The most obvious of these is its creative effort to present Darwin as a teacher of "evolution." As surprising as it sounds, Darwin never uses this term in The Origin of Species. Rather, he speaks of "descent with modification." The difference between these terms is not merely semantic. Darwin realized that evolution is a teleological term. To say that something evolved is to say that it has evolved toward something. Evolution implies the kind of purposeful change by which something unfolds according to a prearranged plan–precisely the understanding of evolution that the Roman Catholic Church claims is not necessarily inimical to Christianity. While often popularly misunderstood, what the Catholic Church consistently has opposed, from Pius XII's nuanced 1950 encyclical Humani Generis to John Paul II's recent statements, is not the idea of evolution per se but, rather, those materialist theories that reduce psychic humanity to biological animality.

Darwin, however, eschews such teleological thinking–going so far as to note in his manuscript not to use "hierarchical" terms such as higher and lower. For him, nature is intrinsically mechanistic. Change results from "natural selection," the process by which species adapt to environmental changes by weeding out variations that jeopardize their survival. Far from acting towards an end, nature responds to external forces of chance and necessity. It is not difficult to see why Darwinians such as Arnhart try to gloss over the harshness of this teaching. By drawing attention to the fact that nature is a blind and continuous process, they effectively undermine their political defense of the intrinsic goodness of morality.

Darwinism's teaching on perpetual modification points to another problem with the idea of Darwinian natural law. For Darwin, the process of modification is, in principle, continuous. Contrary to what they may wish to believe, human beings are not the end of the evolutionary process. The Darwinian defense of natural morality, therefore, is not to be taken too literally. Lacking the fixity of any genuine end, the goods supported by natural law are useful only over long periods of time. Like nature itself, they are transitionally good. This explains why Arnhart places so much emphasis on biology, since it offers the only real source of "temporary fixity" in the world.

Natural Law and the Humanization of Biology

What is most striking about the Darwinian defense of morality is that it argues for one of the positions that natural law traditionally has argued against. Natural law historically has opposed any simplistic identification of the natural with the biological. Contrary to Darwinism's identification of the natural with the instinctual, natural law associates the natural with the reasonable. It seeks to humanize and transcend the realm of biology by incorporating it into the realm of reason–to view the low in light of the high, not vice versa. Whereas materialist Darwinians see human nature culminating in the biological instinct to perpetuate the species, Aquinas thinks that man's natural inclination directs him to seek the truth about God and to live in society. Rather than insisting that he be completely at home in the biological world, natural law realizes that his natural desire for transcendence ensures that man can only be ambiguously at home in the world. Psychically different from other creatures, the rational creature (not merely the calculating, species-preserving animal) somehow embodies all of the aspirations of the evolved biological world.

This natural desire to know does not negate the desire to perpetuate the species but, in fact, can explain why such perpetuation is desirable. Part of the attraction of natural law thinking, therefore, lies in its ability to show that human beings are not slaves to their instincts but, rather, that they possess the psychic freedom to make sense of these instincts. Over and against Darwinism's biological determinism, natural law theory is grounded in the all-too-human experience of wrestling with matters of conscience–of trying to do what one ought to do and not merely what one instinctively wants to do. Rejecting the reality of such an inner life, Darwinian-based defenses of morality are necessarily self-defeating. They replace relativism's belief that nothing can legitimately make a claim on the human soul with materialism's belief that human beings are biologically incapable of caring about their souls.

Near the end of his essay in First Things, Arnhart celebrates the remarkable recent advances of science in the areas of neurobiology and genetics. In light of these advances, Arnhart warns that "if conservatism is to remain intellectually vital, [it] will need to show that [its] position is compatible with this new science of human nature." But what does Arnhart think Darwinism has to say to these new sciences? If there really are no natural limits on human beings, if nature really is in a constant slow state of flux, how can a Darwinian, even a morally serious Darwinian, oppose something such as the "new science" of human cloning? A self-conscious Darwinian such as E. O. Wilson realizes that cloning is simply the next stage of human "modification." Faithful to the spirit of his Darwinism, Wilson looks forward to the day when cloning or "volitional evolution" will allow scientists to alter "not just the anatomy and intelligence of the species but also the emotions and creative drive that compose the very core of human nature." Less consistent Darwinians such as Arnhart choose to remain blissfully unaware of this fact. Consequently, they fail to recognize that what they offer is not so much up-to-date moral guidance as the ultimate moral justification for the "brave new world."

 

Marc D. Guerra teaches theology at Assumption College in Worcester, Massachusetts, and is a contributing editor to Religion & Liberty.


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To: bdeaner
Morality aside, it occurs to me that much of the problem people have with the Theory of Evolution is that they keep hearing about how we're descended from apes. People don't like apes. They're smelly, ugly, and have bad habits like scratching their butts and masturbating in public. No one wants to think that they're descended from that. If we where descended from cats, for example, it would be different. Elegant, beautiful cats. It wouldn't be so bad then.

I think there's a real ape prejudice out there which taints the issue, never mind the religious objections that people have.

61 posted on 12/27/2003 11:54:46 AM PST by Batrachian
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To: tortoise; balrog666
"Thermodynamics pre-mathematics was a much weaker concept than thermodynamics post-mathematics."

Whoa--that's quite a reach, and a complete mis-statement as well. Thermodynamics was mathematically established and derived before "information theory" was a gleam in any mathematicians eye.

I think might might more correctly state that thermodynamics can now be mathematically expressed by means of statistical mechanics, which I have no argument with.

"The important difference is that these things were unproven conjecture prior to the successful mathematical formulization, and some such conjectures fail to hold true when they finally are formalized in mathematics."

You are making the classical mistake of assigning "meaning" to mathematics. Science is based on experimental data, not mathematics. In some cases mathematics formalization matches the experimental data, in others it does not. Science is strongest when the experimental data can be matched to a mathematical derivation, but to state that until such derivation occurs, that such data are "unproven conjecture" is ridiculous.

62 posted on 12/27/2003 12:41:55 PM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: LogicWings
"This is supposed to be science? What do these words mean? This whole sentence Begs the Question of what it says. It means nothing."

I agree. I was simply posting an example of the lunacy that the "biblical creationists" try to palm off as scientific.

63 posted on 12/27/2003 12:42:06 PM PST by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: Batrachian
...If we where descended from cats...

Imagine the balance of power if cats had opposible thumbs. "Here monkey monkey monkey..."

64 posted on 12/27/2003 1:23:31 PM PST by Virginia-American
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To: bdeaner
Interesting. Arnhart's "Darwinian Natural Right" is on my big Amazon wish list, but my DH didn't get it for me. Someday I'll get around to it...

From what I've read of his thesis, I do kind of agree that natural selection per se can't really be useful as a foundation of morality. It simply explains how humans came to be humans instead of just another species of chimp.

Morality starts when we say, "given that we are humans, and that human nature entails x, y, & z, what's the best set of principles to live by?" IMO this question is equally valid whether we came to be humans because of a purely natural process or via a conscious act of a supernatural person. Our evolutionary history can illuminate aspects of human nature, but it alone cannot provide the foundation.

65 posted on 12/27/2003 1:35:44 PM PST by jennyp ("His friends finally hit on something that would get him out of the fetal position: Howard Dean.")
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To: Wonder Warthog
I think might might more correctly state that thermodynamics can now be mathematically expressed by means of statistical mechanics, which I have no argument with.

You completely missed everything I wrote. Classical thermodynamics is a shallow and limited concept, a set of heuristics for dealing with our universe. One can mathematically derive a concept of thermodynamics that applies to a large subset of all possible universes, including many that look and act nothing like our current one. Classical thermodynamics explains nothing, it just describes something observed in our universe. Algorithmic/computational information theory actually explains thermodynamics, and provides a foundation upon which other more subtle properties of such systems can be derived that we can't trivially measure or observe.

Being able to note that an airplane can fly is of small value compared to knowing WHY it can fly.

BTW, thermodynamics expressed as statistical mechanics is an engineering thing. From a purely mathematical standpoint, thermodynamics is a consequence of finite state system dynamics (read: deterministic).

You are making the classical mistake of assigning "meaning" to mathematics.

Ummm, no. I don't even hold that mathematics is absolutely correct. I take a strictly utilitarian view of such things.

In some cases mathematics formalization matches the experimental data, in others it does not.

Give me an example of when science has contradicted mathematics. All that has ever happened is that science has occasionally found a type of system for which there is no simple expression in mathematics. This is essentially an "administrative" issue, and elegant expressions are generated as needed. I myself have unified two major fields of mathematics; such things often don't get done unless someone needs to do the theoretical housecleaning to simplify solving certain types of problems. But none of this reformulation or generation of new expressions for a particular kind of system "correct" previously proven theorems, it just puts the pieces together into a more utilitarian form.

Science is strongest when the experimental data can be matched to a mathematical derivation, but to state that until such derivation occurs, that such data are "unproven conjecture" is ridiculous.

Really? You can prove things in science? I think not. Science has no axioms from which something can be proven; that is the job of mathematics. And since many such conjectures of science have been disproven over the years, it is a healthy view to take of such things. Conjectures ungrounded in mathematical foundations are tenuous.

The mathematically deriving properties of real systems allows you to do something that you cannot do with simple science: it lets you prove things about systems for which science has no experience. Science spends a lot of time these days doing experiments to demonstrate things in the lab that have already been derived mathematically. If it wasn't for the fact that many of these things were mathematically derived, we might not have even been aware that our universe had these properties for a very long time or even looked for them.

66 posted on 12/27/2003 1:36:01 PM PST by tortoise (All these moments lost in time, like tears in the rain.)
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To: tortoise; Wonder Warthog; Dimensio
Uh, ditto .... i think.

LOL, just having a wonderful day. I hope you are too.

Happy Belated Birthday to you, Dimensio!

67 posted on 12/27/2003 1:49:01 PM PST by balrog666 (Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.)
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To: bdeaner
Yes, but this is due in part to many evolutionary theorists, such as the sociobiologist, who continually insist on using evolutionary theory in order to make what are essentially moral and ethical points. But again, this is absurd, since evolutionary theory cannot be the foundation of morality -- nay, cannot even be the ontological foundation for the condition of possibility for morality -- because, by definition, it is amoral. To make it the foundation of morality is, in effect, to dispel morality as morality. On this score, the creationists have a point, but they might be better served through an immanent critique of evolutionary theories of morality (that is, a critique of evolutionary theory of morality on its own terms), because this is ultimately a more gratifying argument.

Well, you can't base morality upon morality itself. Morality then becomes a free-floating abstraction: "You must be moral because morality demands it. And this 'morality that demands it,' um, just is."

Morality ultimately exists for selfish reasons. It's just that morality, being a set of behavioral principles, recognizes that our actions have consequences, and the relationship between actions & consequences is based on a non-contradictory world. (Otherwise principles would be useless.) We only think about morality because we are able to conceive of the future, and to integrate our experiences into a larger, coherent model of the world & how it all works. The reason that moral decisions often seem hard to follow is that often our long-term, principled, enlightened self interest is very different than our short-term, ad-hoc desires.

So to say that evolutionary theory fails as a foundation for morality because it itself is amoral, misses the mark, IMO. The ultimate reason for having morality in the first place is the preservation of that which we value. Our biggest & most immediate value is our own lives, but we also value the lives of our loved ones, etc., even (for some people) up to all humanity & far into the future.

68 posted on 12/27/2003 1:54:44 PM PST by jennyp ("His friends finally hit on something that would get him out of the fetal position: Howard Dean.")
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To: Virginia-American
"Imagine the balance of power if cats had opposible thumbs."

The Kzin, but we beat them (with a lot of luck, it must be admitted).

69 posted on 12/27/2003 1:57:41 PM PST by Batrachian
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To: Batrachian
Larry Niven is a lot better at imagining than I am!

Actually, I want a re-make of 2001 the Space Odyssey where the first scene is the slab landing in a herd of proto-elephants or mastdons or whatever they were. UrJumbo picks up a stone, hits another stone, blows on the spark with his trunk... next scene, a bunch of elephants in spacesuits on the Moon.

70 posted on 12/27/2003 2:29:03 PM PST by Virginia-American
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To: Virginia-American
"...next scene, a bunch of elephants in spacesuits on the Moon."

I think the black slab chose Homo Habilis precisely because it's so impractical to launch elephants into space. Think of how much work it would be just to dispose of the dung!

They would literally never get off the ground.

Lucky for us, too, otherwise we'd still be apes (but then creationists wouldn't have an argument :)

71 posted on 12/27/2003 2:38:10 PM PST by Batrachian
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To: Batrachian
The creationist (or ID-ist) pachyderms would be claiming that trunks are irreducibly complex. What good is 1/2 of a trunk!?
72 posted on 12/27/2003 2:54:27 PM PST by Virginia-American
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To: Virginia-American
... a bunch of elephants in spacesuits ...

Already been thunk of. Read Footfall by Niven and Pournelle.

73 posted on 12/27/2003 4:21:35 PM PST by PatrickHenry (Hic amor, haec patria est.)
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To: PSYCHO-FREEP
What's even more ironic is the fact that "Morality" is theorized as evolving in relation to mankinds instinct for self preservation.

Well, I think of morality as having evolved in relation to factors like the needs of a well ordered society, and human desires for happiness and security. Such factors are obviously related somehow to the "instinct for self preservation," but they are both more proximate to the issues of morality, and more real in themselves.

Direct appeals to the "instinct for self preservation" usually turn out to be vague, vacuous or superfluous. There's no such single thing as "the instinct for self preservation". There are only instincts, behaviors, preferences, propensities, capabilities, and the like; and there are many of them, literally innumerable as they can be broken down in various ways. Some of them are adaptations driven by natural selection, some of them are not directly adaptive (and may even be maladaptive) but are consequences of other traits that are adaptive, some of them are vestiges or consequences of the historical path our species trod, and some of them are neutral. We might argue that some of these instincts, behaviors and propensities add up to something called an "instinct for self preservation," but that's just vague and not particularly useful arm-waving IMHO.

In any case, whatever it's evolved in relation to, morality certain has evolved. I don't think this is seriously disputable. You can even find it in the Bible, where there are strong indications that human sacrifice was initially part of the Yahweh cult, and was later reformed. Even if you dispute that, there clearly was a time when the notion that it was acceptable to sacrifice humans in order to maintain a proper relationship with the divine was normative. Likewise, and for much longer, slavery was accepted (including by many biblical figures or authors) as uncontroversial.

Therefore, anything we do to preserve and protect ourselves, regardless of the circumstances, becomes moral.........

Huh? How do you get that!? Are you arguing against such crass and benighted reductionism, and genetic fallacy, or for it?

74 posted on 12/27/2003 4:45:23 PM PST by Stultis
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To: Virginia-American
What good is 1/2 of a trunk!?

A profound question, one which has been fully explored by everyone who ever owned a Porsche 911 or a Volkswagen Beetle.

;-)

75 posted on 12/27/2003 5:04:19 PM PST by longshadow
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To: jennyp; bdeaner
Well, you can't base morality upon morality itself. Morality then becomes a free-floating abstraction: "You must be moral because morality demands it. And this 'morality that demands it,' um, just is."

IOW, morality becomes nature again. Morality ultimately exists for selfish reasons.

Damn nature again.

Here are the centers for morality that are often confused: nature, ego, reason, society, immanent divinity, trancendent divinity.

76 posted on 12/27/2003 5:04:39 PM PST by cornelis
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To: jennyp
Morality starts when we say, "given that we are humans, and that human nature entails x, y, & z, what's the best set of principles to live by?" IMO this question is equally valid whether we came to be humans because of a purely natural process or via a conscious act of a supernatural person. Our evolutionary history can illuminate aspects of human nature, but it alone cannot provide the foundation.

A perfectly sensible distinction, but obviously Guerra doesn't get this. E.g.:

Darwinism would have one believe that a husband's self-conscious love for his wife or the personal sacrifices that parents willingly make for their children are byproducts of a primordial desire to perpetuate the species. Viewed from the perspective of human beings' lived experience, Darwinism's appreciation of the family is even more dehumanizing than modernity's view of marriage as simply a contractual arrangement.

It seems to be common among antievolutionists, but I have a very hard time understanding the notion that the nature of a thing somehow changes because of our explanation of it (or some aspect of it). There is something, I suspect, literally medieval (a product of Scholasticism) about such thinking.

To me it seems obvious that the phenomena is (and remains) as it is, and the explanation of it, or the details of its origin, is a separate matter. Granted that an explanatory theory make cause us to notice things about a phenomena that we didn't before, but the idea that this somehow cheapens (or "dehumanizes") the phenomena is odd. So human love, and pair bonding, is under-girded by biology. Why should it be any less wonderful simply because some aspects of it are a bit more explicable?

77 posted on 12/27/2003 5:09:03 PM PST by Stultis
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To: Stultis
To me it seems obvious that the phenomena is (and remains) as it is, and the explanation of it, or the details of its origin, is a separate matter. Granted that an explanatory theory make cause us to notice things about a phenomena that we didn't before, but the idea that this somehow cheapens (or "dehumanizes") the phenomena is odd. So human love, and pair bonding, is under-girded by biology. Why should it be any less wonderful simply because some aspects of it are a bit more explicable?

Yes, if explaining something necessarily meant explaining it away, then everyone who falls in love must necessarily become more & more disappointed or disgusted with the other. ("Familiarity breeds contempt.") And yet, for many couples our love deepens as we understand more & more why our spouse is the way they are. Only if we conclude that our initial attraction was based on something false can increased understanding lead to contempt instead of stronger love.

78 posted on 12/27/2003 5:18:28 PM PST by jennyp ("His friends finally hit on something that would get him out of the fetal position: Howard Dean.")
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To: Stultis
I suspect, literally medieval


Nah, I think that Aquinas and those guys were steeped in the tradition of Aristotle and were quite keen on the idea of fixed nature. Plastic nature is more a modern phenomenon after rationality was cut entirely loose. But there are so-called neo-Thomists,or neo-Scholastics, who might prefer the plasticity of nature. The name to go after, if you want one, is Bacon. But that's in the sciences. When it comes to politics, you now them already.
79 posted on 12/27/2003 5:20:35 PM PST by cornelis
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To: bdeaner
Oh goodie! Another evolution thread!
80 posted on 12/27/2003 5:38:35 PM PST by DaGman
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