Man accused of beating at Wal-Mart posts bail (Thread 3)

Chicago Sun Times ^ | December 28, 2003

[Cubs Fan]

ITs hard to figure out what you mean. There are several susbrbs in that area. Forest Park, Westchester, Brookfield, Bellwood, Stone Park, Hinsdale, among several others.

To make a long story short-- the highest crime areas in the near western suburbs are Maywood, Bellwood, Broadview (where the thugs live) and Cicero. Three nearly all black and one mostly Hispanic. Most of the crime that occurs in low crime areas, River Forest, Oak Park, Forest park are from Miscreants from those suburbs I mentioned (Maywood Bellwood, Broadview Cicero) or from the west side of chicago.

[searchandrecovery]

They should sell "shopping insurance" at the entrances of all great wal-mart of china's, kinda like flight insurance at airports.

[fso301]

Ok, I checked mapquest and my friends live in Westchester (Zip 60154) near the intersection of S Mannheim Rd and W. Roosevelt Rd. That is the intersection I mentioned in the previous post having the I-Hop, Pharmacy and funeral home. Anyway, if you get on Roosevelt and head east 4 miles, you will come to Des Plaines Ave. There is a large Jewish Cemetary at Des Plains and Roosevelt. Anyway, the WallMart is at that intersection.

[stands2reason]

But Adam (attorney for Greer) admits "no [physical] threats'' were made toward the family.

But what about the "assault" the victim made on the "young child" by ripping his "toy" out of his hands?

[Cubs Fan]

---Ok, I checked mapquest and my friends live in Westchester (Zip 60154) near the intersection of S Mannheim Rd and W. Roosevelt Rd.---

Westchester, mostly white middle to upper middle class class from what I know a very safe area. I go to Emilios Tapas there about twice a year, great food.

[Cubs Fan]

--But what about the "assault" the victim made on the "young child" by ripping his "toy" out of his hands?---

Ah yes, the old Waterstraat and FITZ defense. LOL

[fso301]

Westchester, mostly white middle to upper middle class class from what I know a very safe area.

All I can comment on is my perceptions and that is that the neighborhood my friends were in was predominantly black and when in area restaurants and shops, whites were a minority.

[zip]

Ping

[Cubs Fan]

All I can comment on is my perceptions and that is that the neighborhood my friends were in was predominantly black and when in area restaurants and shops, whites were a minority.

There are many suburbs that are mostly white but have sections where mostly blacks frequent and tend to live (Oak Park is an example). Also that area you listed is right next to several suburbs--Hillside, Bellwood and Broadview (the walmart criminals hometown). Two of which are mostly black.

[Blue Jays]

Good Evening All-

Cubs Fan, thanks for helping us all to stay up-to-speed on this completely under-reported story. Under different circumstances, this would receive major coverage from The New York Times, ABCCBSNBCCNN, et al.

• Lennell Greer and accomplice attack pair at Wal-Mart

• Lennell Greer subsequently charged with assault

• Lennell Greer posts 10% of bond

I'm willing to bet a million dollars that skeletons will come out of the closet regarding Lennell Greer and past criminality. A man doesn't live a straight, honest life and then decide to turn into a violent criminal based on a single cellular call. He is no stranger to this sociopathic behavior and I'm confident that additional investigations will prove me right.

The slimy defense lawyers from the infamous firm of Waterstraat, Fisk, Wendouie, Screwem, & Howe will not be able to successfully defend their client in the courts, especially the court of public opinion. It doesn't matter how nasty the discussion was to his family members or whether they felt "dissed and dismissed" at the time, Lennell Greer is wrong for swinging baseball bats at people. His fifteen-year-old cohort is simply a Criminal-In-Training (CIT) who should receive an identical penalty.

Once everything has been sorted in this case, we'll see it had its origins in the simple fact that two white people had the audacity to "call out" two black people on their unacceptable behavior. In this case, the black people became enraged that the white people didn't tuck their tails between their legs (typical Caucasian response) and the situation escalated from there...so they felt compelled to make some righteous calls to their homies.

Not trying to interpret this story as a race thing...but it's a race thing.

~ Blue Jays ~

[Cubs Fan]

Another great post!

I got a little more inside scoop. Here's what the papers haven't said.

The inside monitor shows only there was a shouting match the reason can't be completely determined (by appearance the black girl got out of line then stepped back in and this triggered the argument)

Walmart security came by and said to both parties something to the effect of "its Christmas please stop", then left.

The outside camera shows nothing because the rain made too much glare, its imposssible to see whats happening.

And as I mentioned before the Hispanic cashier said that the woman used her cell phone to call the thugs telling them to get the whites that came out behind them.

In addition to the boy age 15 and the father, two or more other blacks joined in the melee who it is believed didn't know any of the parties involved (it was a chance to get some good licks on whitey I guess)

[Cubs Fan]

Here's the AP take on the story. Funny how they have a sifferent version of what happened in line than previous stories. (Journalists what goofs)

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A34561-2003Dec27.html

Man, Teen Charged With Attacking Shoppers

The Associated Press
Saturday, December 27, 2003; 2:50 PM

FOREST PARK, Ill. - A man and a 15-year-old boy were charged with attacking two Wal-Mart shoppers following an altercation in a crowded checkout line on Christmas Eve.

The incident began when a group of women cut in line in front of shoppers Matthew Baures, 22, and Genevieve Gomez, 28, sparking an argument, Police Chief Jim Ryan said.

When Baures and Gomez left the suburban Chicago store, a group of men, including the unidentified teen, confronted them in the parking lot, authorities said.

Baures was punched and kicked, and Gomez was struck when she tried to intervene.

(Excerpted due to copyright)

[Blue Jays]

Good Evening All-

Cubs Fan, so it looks like since it turned out that Lennell Greer is a complete scumball and typical criminal that's the end of coverage by the Chicago media, huh? Any more local scoop on this dirtbag?

Additionally, is there any news on how Wal-Mart may have helped the two victims of Greer's posse-assisted crime, Matthew Baures & his girlfriend?

~ Blue Jays ~

[OldBlondBabe]

I have lived in the Detroit my whole life with the exception of the three years when my husband served in the Air Force. I am in my mid-forties.

In my opinion, the hatred and resentment that blacks in this area have for whites can be attributed to none other that the late mayor, Coleman Young. This guy HATED white people.

[SauronOfMordor]

I'm not surprised. Where I live (a mostly white suburb 30 miles from Detroit) this type of thing has been going on for years.

I've gone to Detroit many times in the recent past on business. Never had any actual problems, but some of that might be due to my being 6'4, 240#, and always having my gun on me

[Cubs Fan]

Hey Blue Jays,

It's good to hear from you again. I haven't got anything new to add yet. But I am going to stay on it and when I do I will put it right here.

Take care.