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How Illegal Aliens are Bankrupting and Disenfranchising the American Middle and Working Classes
A Different Drummer/Middle American News ^ | December, 2003 | Nicholas Stix

Posted on 12/28/2003 10:49:51 AM PST by mrustow

Legend has long held that illegal aliens give American citizens cheap lettuce and cheap child care. Excepting for agribusiness and the upper classes, that legend is, in reality, a nightmare, in which the American middle and working classes pay and pay and pay for illegal immigration, and get nothing but grief in return.

In states with heavy illegal alien populations, the budget of a middle-class family is full of hidden illegal alien surcharges. As a result, today’s middle-class American family with two full-time working parents has less discretionary income than its traditional forebear, in which the father alone was breadwinner. (Conditions are that much worse for families torn apart by divorce or the death of a parent.) And things are only getting worse. In California, for example, immigration writer Ed Rubenstein estimates that legal and illegal immigration combine to cost American-born California taxpayers $21.7 billion per year, for a 6.6% annual surcharge. And as Rubenstein points out, legal immigrants also have a voracious appetite for social services: “California immigrant households received a net subsidy from combined federal, state, and local programs averaging $6,145 in 1996.”

Compared to previous generations, middle-class Americans today pay outrageous prices, as a proportion of their incomes, for homes, in order to be able to protect their children from “bad schools.” So say the mother-daughter writing team of Elizabeth Warren and Amelia Warren Tyagi, and journalist Steve Sailer.

In Warren and Tyagi’s new book, The Two-Income Trap: Why Middle-Class Mothers and Fathers are Going Broke, they write that "The brunt of the price increases has fallen on families with children. Data from the Federal Reserve show that [after inflation] the median home value for the average childless individual increased by 23 percent between 1983 and 1998 … For married couples with children, however, housing prices shot up 79 percent—more than three times faster."

And yet, the white American working class can only dream of such headaches. For its members, home ownership - in any neighborhood - is increasingly an impossible dream. And when economists talk about what illegal immigration costs the typical American worker, the averages (see below) include millions of workers who have been locked out of entire industries by employers who refuse to hire Americans, or by illegal immigrant workers who will not tolerate Americans in their midst. This is the ugly truth behind the propaganda of immigration enthusiasts, who insist that illegal aliens are doing "Jobs that Americans won't do."

In 1968, Congress passed the Bilingual Education Act (aka Title VII), which mandated teaching Hispanic children in Spanish and English, which in practice has meant in Spanish only. (The BEA was officially “eliminated” by the 2002 No Child Left Behind Act, yet NCLB did not eliminate bilingual education, which radical U.S. Department of Education officials force more aggressively than ever on the public schools.)

In states buffeted by high levels of illegal immigration, including the entire American Southwest, Florida, New York, and Illinois, the public schools are being inundated by unassimilable, illegal immigrants and the children of illegal immigrants, including foreign street gangs. Such schools are typically dominated by incompetent, racist, Hispanic (in Florida, often by Haitian) nationalists at the staff, faculty, and administrative level, who increasingly dispense with the teaching of English. And the foreign nationalist “educators” get paid more than do their English-speaking counterparts!

In California, which has approximately four million illegal immigrants (out of 9 million-13 million nationally), illegal immigrants have destroyed a public school system that for generations was the envy of the nation. For middle-class, American parents to leave their children in such hostile environments would constitute neglect. And so, while some parents have placed their children in often expensive private schools, others have sought safe public school districts. Realtors have cashed in. Thus must middle-class Americans pay exorbitant taxes to maintain public schools from which they have been disenfranchised, or buy overpriced homes, while people who are here illegally use the schools for free.

Throughout the American Southwest, public and private hospitals alike face the prospect of shutting down, because of the onslaught of illegal immigrants. State and local laws prohibit hospital emergency rooms from turning away any patient, based on his inability to pay, or from inquiring into a patient’s citizenship status.

Exploiting such laws, illegal immigrants use emergency rooms for primary medical care, including for the common cold, so as to get out of paying for their care. Meanwhile, American patients with real medical emergencies, whose taxes maintain those hospitals and who pay for their own medical care, are turned away.

News reports tell of Californians with medical emergencies who are forced to drive from hospital to hospital, since facilities close their emergency rooms to new patients as early as noontime. Bizarrely, such reports never mention the role of illegal immigration in causing the medical crisis. Instead, one hears only of “uninsured” patients, amid suggestions that the system needs massive transfusions of tax dollars, and that America needs European or Canadian-style socialized (“universal”) health care. None of the stories this reporter has seen, has told of illegal aliens ever being turned away from medical facilities, no matter how trivial their complaint. Thus are Americans disenfranchised by the very medical system they pay so much to maintain.

And Americans pay higher auto insurance rates, to make up for illegal aliens who drive illegally and without insurance, and cause accidents.

Illegal immigrants’ defrauding of California’s generous welfare system has long been a scandal. Such welfare fraud is now a national scandal, as state and local governments operating stealth amnesty programs violate the Constitution, in negotiating directly with Mexico and other foreign governments, to accept the “matricula consular,” an insecure form of ID used exclusively by illegal aliens, and in issuing driver’s licenses to illegal aliens. Illegals may then use either the matricula consular or state driver’s licence to receive welfare benefits from officials who are not permitted to ask an applicant his citizenship status. Meanwhile, a driver’s license can be used to illegally register to vote.

Increasing numbers of states are following New York’s example, and granting in-state tuition to illegal aliens, at the same time that they charge law-abiding, American citizens from other states two and three times the in-state rate. And as illegal aliens are taking the initiative, suing colleges in Virginia for the right to break the law, illegals in the other states will surely follow suit. Thus do those who, as a matter of law, have no civil rights, demand and receive such rights at the expense of Americans, who are robbed of theirs. Meanwhile, Senator Orrin Hatch (R-Ut.) seeks to make the lawsuits moot, as his DREAM Act would repeal the federal law prohibiting the granting of in-state tuition to illegals.

Again, it is the citizens who must pay for the illegals. And via affirmative action, unqualified, illegal college applicants are admitted ahead of qualified Americans, foreclosing on the already limited opportunities for the children of the white, working poor to improve their lot. (A multitude of programs exist for such children's black and Hispanic counterparts.)

But that isn’t the half of it. As columnist Paul Craig Roberts has pointed out, unqualified immigrants – including illegals – enjoy affirmative action privileges, in getting jobs in place of qualified, American citizens.

It is no wonder that for years, Americans have been fleeing California, whose population has been buoyed exclusively through incoming illegal immigrants.

But flight is just a stopgap. Today, California; tomorrow, Idaho.

As economist George Borjas has shown, America’s immigration policy costs every American worker an average of $2,578 in annual income, in the form of depressed wages, in addition to all the hidden surcharges I listed above. And with every stealth amnesty, more illegals stream across America’s borders to all her states. And as the unfortunate American residents of far-flung Lewiston, Maine have learned, the federal government is inviting foreigners to come here LEGALLY, to partake of welfare programs that disenfranchised Americans must pay for.

Finally, as Steve Sailer has reported, illegal immigration is disenfranchising Americans through the unconstitutional creation of “rotten boroughs,” in which only a small portion of the populace may legally vote. Rotten boroughs arise because congressional districts are created based on numbers of “residents,” rather than citizens.

Unlike the wealthy liberals who support every sort of handout for immigrants, Middle Americans who actually have to work for a living, cannot afford an unlimited number of hidden, illegal immigration taxes and surcharges. Like the classic science fiction movie, the current situation could be called, Invasion of the Citizen Snatchers. Or simply, as in the title of Michelle Malkin’s book, Invasion.

Originally published in the December, 2000, Middle American News.


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To: gawd
"legalize them. turn them into enfranchised, tax-paying citizens instead of spreading this scare-mongering that borders on racism."

You would proudly spit in the face of every foreigner who is obeying the immigration laws in their attempt to come to America. Also, you would encourage more illegal immigration with your rancid idea.

151 posted on 12/28/2003 1:52:28 PM PST by B4Ranch (Wave your flag, don't waive your rights!)
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To: txdoda
""Bootin' the illegals (and the perks they get FREE), will put a dent in our 'welfare state'.""

You are so right. Look at the health care parameters, the education and housing measurements, and pollution, housing and transportation along the Valley.

We must enforce immigration laws or we are/ become responsible (both morally and financially) for the way children live when their parents sneak in and hide from the system.

I do not believe that I should take the brunt of the illegal actions of others, and I expect my government to protect me.
152 posted on 12/28/2003 1:55:23 PM PST by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)
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To: FreedomSurge
...why shouldn't we bring in 300 million untouchables from India, 100 million Banglideshis, 400 million Chinese, and 400 million from the continent of Africa?

Great idea...but w/ the provision that they all must register & vote Democrat.

153 posted on 12/28/2003 1:56:44 PM PST by AlBondigas
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To: AlBondigas


If these are the requirements for immigration from the US to Mexico, they should be the requirements for immigration to the USA.
154 posted on 12/28/2003 1:58:19 PM PST by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)
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To: mrustow
We have no obligation to allow into this country the surplus population of countries who choose to overbreed.

Those who wants to give amnesty to illegal aliens and/or encourage more of them to migrate would fall into one or more of the following categories:
1. They are bribed, blackmailed, or have other vested interest.
2. They are members of terrorist organizations, drug dealers, or engaged in other criminal activities.
3. They hate this country or are sleeper agents.
4. They suffer from mental illness such as delusions that there is something wonderful about illegals aliens.
5. They want to change this country into a Third World country.

155 posted on 12/28/2003 2:00:40 PM PST by Dante3
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To: gawd
<"the law itself is inherently unjust.">

Really? Why don't you come visit my neighborhood, one that used to be well-kept and peaceful? Now, in place of beauty and peace, broken beer bottles on my sidewalks, in my garden beds, loud music, ten people living in one house next door to me--bare-chested Mexicans who spit on my sidewalks and steal the pecans from under my tree and wake me up at 5:30am with their loading their trucks with plumbing supplies and throw cigarette butts for me to sweep up, never once speaking a word of English--yes, come tell me why the law is inherently unjust.

We have laws for law-abiding citizens. Illegal aliens are usurping what legal citizens have paid for with their lives and property.

I can only assume one reason that you carry such empathy for law-breakers. Every nation has the right to set its border/immigration policies. If you don't like ours, find another country that will assume responsibility for you.

Penny


156 posted on 12/28/2003 2:01:57 PM PST by Penny
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To: hocndoc
or something in the middle.
Mexico's clearly defining that they don't want immigrants being a drain.

Perhaps we should return the thought.

157 posted on 12/28/2003 2:02:33 PM PST by AlBondigas
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To: gawd
here's an idea: legalize them. turn them into enfranchised, tax-paying citizens instead of spreading this scare-mongering that borders on racism.

It's not about race, it's about the law.

158 posted on 12/28/2003 2:05:37 PM PST by usadave
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To: gawd
so why is everyone here obsessing about immigration when they should be dismantling the welfare state instead?

Oh, COME ON! Don't be disingenuous, you'd be on here carping about that if it was the case.

159 posted on 12/28/2003 2:06:57 PM PST by Axenolith (Tag, y-o-u a-r-e i-t...)
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To: mrustow
"Thus, opposing Mexicans' presence here is not a prejudice, but a rational, morally and legally justified position."

I wonder if there is a way to get the moderators to understand this. Perhaps then my personally written threads on illegal immigration wouldn't be automatically assigned to the Smokey Backroom then.

Changing Our Country,Can You Change America? Part 2, and Can You Help America?

160 posted on 12/28/2003 2:07:43 PM PST by B4Ranch (Wave your flag, don't waive your rights!)
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To: gawd
I ain't talking about amnesty. I'm talking about unconditional, free immigration for all able-bodied persons without a criminal record. everyone has a right to the American Dream.

LOL! You are delusional.

161 posted on 12/28/2003 2:10:11 PM PST by usadave
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To: gawd
I ain't talking about amnesty. I'm talking about unconditional, free immigration for all able-bodied persons without a criminal record. everyone has a right to the American Dream.
162 posted on 12/28/2003 2:12:05 PM PST by spodefly (This is my tagline. There are many like it, but this one is mine.)
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To: Jakarta ex-pat
Yeah they're gaining ground in Indiana too, believe it or not.
163 posted on 12/28/2003 2:12:12 PM PST by pctech
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To: Torie
What is conspicuously missing is the bit about illegals pushing down the cost of goods and services.

The benefits vs costs are nowhere near equivalent.

164 posted on 12/28/2003 2:13:13 PM PST by Axenolith (Tag, y-o-u a-r-e i-t...)
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To: liberallyconservative
Most likely a troll. Or just someone who likes to babble and see their words on the Internet and get reactions. I know a lonely man who cannot resist making statements that (although he disagrees with them) will get everyone riled up. It's the only way he gets attention.
165 posted on 12/28/2003 2:14:06 PM PST by Dante3
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To: janetgreen
They've been turning their collective backs on us for years now, Bush Jr. is just following suit. This will not stop until a president comes along with enough gonads to put a stop to it. Until then, not only will we see jobs disappear overseas but we will see them stolen from us in our own backyard.
166 posted on 12/28/2003 2:14:46 PM PST by pctech
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To: gawd
here's an idea: legalize them. turn them into enfranchised, tax-paying citizens instead of spreading this scare-mongering that borders on racism.

Your idea was tried in the 1980s. It provided an incentive for even more illegal immigrants to come. A moment's thought on your part, instead of reacting according to the political propaganda rammed down your throat by the liberal media and education establishment, would have made you realize that would be the logical outcome of such capitulation.

Protect your country while you still have it, because you may not get another one.

167 posted on 12/28/2003 2:15:51 PM PST by JoeSchem
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To: WayneM
But you miss the whole point, the whole reason this is not being enforced is to GET VOTES!!! Neither our current president or his challengers will dare to address this subject because they do not want to dis-franchise potential voters. As much as people got on the likes of Buchanan or Perot, I think people are starting to realize that we some "protectionism" policy in this country. We need to look out for ourselves and not be so damned concerned with a "global" economy.
168 posted on 12/28/2003 2:19:45 PM PST by pctech
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To: AlBondigas
Most of my Great-grandparents were immigrants, so I do feel a sort of empathy for immigrants, today. However, none of my ancestors maintained a loyalty to their former country, and none of them were breaking the law when they came in (as far as we can tell - there's some mystery about my Daddy's grandfather's origins. He may have survived a shipwreck and never actually went through the official channels.).

Absolutely none of them expected - or counted it as a "right" - free health care or subsidies for housing and food.

169 posted on 12/28/2003 2:20:37 PM PST by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US)
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To: Polybius
Go to Mexico, as a non-Mexican citizen, and try to set up housekeeping and get a job in violation of Mexican immigration laws and see how far you get before Mexican law falls on your head like a ton of bricks.

stupid mexican laws are not an excuse for stupid american laws.

170 posted on 12/28/2003 2:33:28 PM PST by gawd
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To: hocndoc
Culture gap? Generation Gap ?
Then: immigrants thankful for an opportunity in a new nation.
Now: You got it & I want some.
171 posted on 12/28/2003 2:37:18 PM PST by AlBondigas
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To: Axenolith
Oh, COME ON! Don't be disingenuous, you'd be on here carping about that if it was the case

I'm not being disingenuous, I want to abolish the welfare state AND abolish immigration restrictions.

172 posted on 12/28/2003 2:37:37 PM PST by gawd
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To: Zipporah
"prejudice comes in all forms. 100 years ago popular opinion was against Italian and Irish immigration. Today it's against Mexicans.

Can't believe your comparing legal Italian and Irish immigration to illegal Mexican immigration.

Italian's and others spoke English as a first language and fought in WWI and II. All other legal immigrate were proud to be an American and assimilated into the culture from that time period. My father and his father's generation were all Americans first!

I don't see Mexicans and Muslims assimilating at all or joining American armed services to help with Iraq. I just see invaders that hate America and want to take it over for themselves.

They choose to be some off-brand hyphenated flavor of American:

African-america;
Mexican-american;
Hispanic-american;
Muslim-american, Homosexual-american (a strange little culture)
and the rest.

Interestng story, I spoke with a legal immigrate from West Africa last summer. He was a taxi driver and I was in the back talking to him. He was happy to be an American citizen and he said he busted his bum to become one.

I asked him if he was a Afican-American? He replied with an astounding NO! He said he was an AMERICAN, period. I thought what he said was an early 1900's proud American response.

A.P. Giannini an legal Italian immigrate created Bank of America.

173 posted on 12/28/2003 2:39:03 PM PST by Major_Risktaker
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To: gawd
stupid mexican laws are not an excuse for stupid american laws.

Mexico established those laws to protect their society/infrastructure.

If you don't agree that U.S. should be similarly concerned.....
then I can only conclude that that we're not talking 'bout stupid laws...but a stupid you

174 posted on 12/28/2003 2:42:48 PM PST by AlBondigas
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To: AlBondigas
Mexico established those laws to protect their society/infrastructure

and judging from the spectacular state of mexican society, those laws have been an astounding success......

175 posted on 12/28/2003 2:48:26 PM PST by gawd
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To: gawd
Sorry, but that idea is mutually exclusive.
176 posted on 12/28/2003 2:51:53 PM PST by liberallyconservative
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To: gawd
and judging from the spectacular state of mexican society, those laws have been an astounding success

I believe you're right.
I haven't heard of any immigration problems w/ Gringos in Mexico....& they're doing a pretty good job of repelling the Guatemalans, Nicaraguans, etc on their south.

177 posted on 12/28/2003 2:57:37 PM PST by AlBondigas
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To: Major_Risktaker
Zipporah was actually quoting an earlier comment made by "gawd". The rebuttal following is by Zip.
178 posted on 12/28/2003 3:00:11 PM PST by liberallyconservative
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To: DLfromthedesert
The average senior citizen paid into our system for many years

The return they are getting on social security is way more than they paid into it. What they have paid into Medicare is gone in one year. I'm just saying if you play with the numbers like the author did you can make Mother Terresa look like a capitalist.

179 posted on 12/28/2003 3:00:50 PM PST by Dave S
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To: TEXOKIE
Bumpbackatcha!
180 posted on 12/28/2003 3:01:45 PM PST by mrustow
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To: gawd
here's an idea: legalize them.

Uh, did you forget the part about "legal" immigrants raping our social services and sucking the rest of our paychecks "down" to compensate for their rabid usage of the system? The problem is, they don't make/contribute enough to pay for their usage. Legal or illegal, they are killing the American dream.

And next time grow a bigger brain and try not to jump on the "'ism" bandwagon. Use of the word "bigot, racism, homophobe, etc." generally mask an individuals inability to grasp logical concepts and support an argument.

181 posted on 12/28/2003 3:09:51 PM PST by YoungKentuckyConservative
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To: elli1
Here is some more information for you to ignore or even worse spin.
182 posted on 12/28/2003 3:24:02 PM PST by raybbr
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To: YoungKentuckyConservative
Uh, did you forget the part about "legal" immigrants raping our social services and sucking the rest of our paychecks "down" to compensate for their rabid usage of the system? The problem is, they don't make/contribute enough to pay for their usage. Legal or illegal, they are killing the American dream.

I've heard this line a dozen times on this thread and the answer is always the same: abolish the welfare state, not immigration.

183 posted on 12/28/2003 3:24:47 PM PST by gawd
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To: gawd
... this is about keeping "wetbacks" OUT. pure and simple.

Now your starting to get it.

184 posted on 12/28/2003 3:26:33 PM PST by raybbr
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To: karen999
Right On Target!

185 posted on 12/28/2003 3:26:53 PM PST by Major_Risktaker
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To: gawd
Go to Mexico, as a non-Mexican citizen, and try to set up housekeeping and get a job in violation of Mexican immigration laws and see how far you get before Mexican law falls on your head like a ton of bricks.

stupid mexican laws are not an excuse for stupid american laws.

But you believe, as you noted in another post, that everyone on the Planet Earth has a "right" to the "American Dream" and that there should be no controls whatsoever on immigration.

As another poster mentioned, that would include 300 million untouchables from India, 400 million Chinese, 100 million Bangla Deshis and on and on and on.

You believe that unlimited entry by outsiders into where you live is a "right" of those outsiders and you call those who disagree "stupid"?

Tell you what, talk is cheap.

Back up your Utopian rhetoric with action.

If you promise to permanently share your house with them, I will personally walk the streets and homeless shelters of Seattle to find ten homeless people to move in with you.

Draw up that promise as a legally binding contract and I will sign that contract obligating myself to pay airfare for those people from Seattle to your nearest major airport and taxi service from the airport to your front door.

186 posted on 12/28/2003 3:29:59 PM PST by Polybius
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To: WayneM
"If someone who is found here illegally, kick them out. If an employer is hiring illegals, throw the book at them. It's really not that complicated."

Exactly, why has it all become so complicated? Why give them amnesty?

Here's another suggestion (tongue-in-cheek) since jobs are being outsourced to India why not outsource some of the jobs to them in mexico? (dont flame me, just kidding)

Just keep them out of our Country!! Protect our borders!
187 posted on 12/28/2003 3:31:31 PM PST by stopem
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To: gawd
Ever heard of Irish bootleggers? Italian mafia? Al Capone?

So now we have the Russian mafia, the Colombian drug traffickers, etc.
Hey... let's let em all in!
Come live the American dream!
< /sarcasm >

188 posted on 12/28/2003 3:32:18 PM PST by calcowgirl (No on Propositions 55, 56, 57, 58)
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To: liberallyconservative
Thy flaming arrow missed thou target.
Thanks!

189 posted on 12/28/2003 3:32:56 PM PST by Major_Risktaker
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To: mrustow
The economic consequences of this illegal alien crisis are dire, but not as dire as the political ones. This issue more than any other single issue threatens our nationalism. In that sense, it is nationalism versus the new world order. A nation can be defined in many ways, but a nation that thrives and prospers must have borders which are recognizable and respected. A nation must also have laws which are universally understood and uniformly enforced. By those criteria, I question how much longer we can claim to be a nation, given that we do not have the political will in either party to deal with this crisis. We are becoming nothing more than a free lunch counter in the new world order. During the Depression hoboes had a way of marking homes that were easy pickens for a free lunch. So it is with our country, we have become an easy mark and little more than a patsy pitstop on the way to the new world order.
190 posted on 12/28/2003 3:35:37 PM PST by Biblebelter
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To: mrustow
Smells like a class war to me.

It is a war against the middle class, law-abiding, tax-paying American lead by Republicans and demoRats alike.

Neither party gives a rats a$$ about the damage they are doing to their fellow countrymen, they are too busy counting the increased profits from illegal alien labor in the Repub's case, and the potential millions of new voters in the Rat party case.

Oh yeah, and the public be damned, let them eat cake, etc.

191 posted on 12/28/2003 3:40:49 PM PST by Walkin Man
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To: calcowgirl
So now we have the Russian mafia, the Colombian drug traffickers, etc.

the russian mafia exists because the government bans or restricts gambling and prostitution. colombian mafia exists because of the War On Drugs. 99% of organized crime exist because of government restrictions on something people are willing to pay for.

192 posted on 12/28/2003 3:43:53 PM PST by gawd
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To: mrustow
What I find shocking is not what the article says. I am very familiar with that.

What is shocking is the article was first published in DECEMBER 2000 and nothing has been done to correct this situation. In fact, it is worse!

193 posted on 12/28/2003 3:44:15 PM PST by Gritty (If we won't deport illegal aliens, maybe deporting American citizens on welfare will save some money)
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To: Dave S
Mother Teresa WAS a Capitalist!!
194 posted on 12/28/2003 3:45:31 PM PST by DLfromthedesert (Saddam is toast, but we pander to Vicente.)
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To: FreedomSurge; gawd
"ain't talking about amnesty. I'm talking about unconditional, free immigration for all able-bodied persons without a criminal record. everyone has a right to the American Dream"

Based on your criteria, why shouldn't we bring in 300 million untouchables from India, 100 million Banglideshis, 400 million Chinese, and 400 million from the continent of Africa?

That's way too few, when you figure in the 4 billion people who want to come here!

195 posted on 12/28/2003 4:00:10 PM PST by mrustow
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To: Gritty
It says December, 2003.
196 posted on 12/28/2003 4:01:20 PM PST by mrustow
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To: Dave S
I'm just saying if you play with the numbers like the author did you can make Mother Terresa look like a capitalist.

How did he play with numbers, or do you just not like the facts he lays out?

197 posted on 12/28/2003 4:04:50 PM PST by mrustow
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To: gawd
Only Americans have the right to the American dream. If you’d like a shot at the American dream and you’re not an American then simply fill out a form, pay your fee and then wait your damn turn.
198 posted on 12/28/2003 4:05:04 PM PST by Flashman_at_the_charge
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To: gawd
See #190.
199 posted on 12/28/2003 4:05:30 PM PST by mrustow
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To: mrustow
#190: cryptic rumbling about a "new world order". no mention of black helicopters?
200 posted on 12/28/2003 4:10:09 PM PST by gawd
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