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A Dissenting Student Hounded For His Views
THE WASHINGTON TIMES ^ | 12-30-03 | Valerie Richardson

Posted on 12/30/2003 4:00:14 AM PST by johnny7

Edited on 07/12/2004 4:11:18 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

Tim Bueler recently received some unusual advice: His principal and a campus police officer suggested that he stay home from his California high school for a few days.

They feared for his safety because Tim, the founder of Rancho Cotate High School's new Conservative Club, said he had received threats from other students after writing an article for the club newsletter calling for a crackdown on illegal immigration. The 17-year-old junior says that stance inspired threats from which teachers have refused to protect him. Some faculty members even started a public campaign against his group, which seeks to promote "the pillars of the Bible, patriotism and conservative beliefs as balance to the mostly liberal viewpoints of teachers," according to its newsletter, "The Conservative Agenda."


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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Philosophy; US: California
KEYWORDS: aliens; antichristianbias; christianstudents; conservativeclub; diversity; educrats; multiculturalism; schools
No 1st Ammendment rights for you... white boy! Go home... think about your crimes to the state!
1 posted on 12/30/2003 4:00:15 AM PST by johnny7
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To: johnny7
I think Ferris changed his first name.
2 posted on 12/30/2003 4:04:59 AM PST by eastforker (Money is the key to justice,just ask any lawyer.)
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To: johnny7
Yes, Tim, there is a state church.
3 posted on 12/30/2003 4:06:08 AM PST by Vigilanteman
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To: johnny7
Also the reason liberals don't want you to have 2nd Ammendment rights either. Without equal protection for this young man, the situation could spiral out of control VERY quickly.
4 posted on 12/30/2003 4:10:39 AM PST by Woahhs
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To: johnny7
Abolish public schools. It would immediately eliminate most of these types of problems.
5 posted on 12/30/2003 4:41:16 AM PST by Prodigal Son
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To: johnny7
Maybe he'll put this in his news letter and get banned from publick skewl.


Wake Up

I’d like to take a moment,
I need to bend your ear.
We need to fix a broken thing,
The time to do so’s here.
America the melting pot,
It’s how we got this far.
But many want to change that now,
By lowering the bar.
No need to learn our history,
Or learn what we’re about.
Just speak your native language,
Complain we leave you out.
You have no right to be here now,
Feeding off this nation.
We need to stop the influx of,
Illegal immigration.

Conspiracy Guy 10/20/03

6 posted on 12/30/2003 4:53:27 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (No words were harmed during the production of this tagline.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy
Or this one will get his descendants banned too!

Stop

America is sliding fast,
It’s time for us to save her.
We’re letting people from outside,
Cripple and enslave her.
Illegals from a thousand lands,
Just walk across our borders.
It’s time to say, “We’ve had Enough”,
And issue our new orders.
Stop the waste and give aways,
To those who have no right.
To be here in the first place,
This problem we must fight.
I’m sure you know we have no choice,
Our Government is lame.
Republicans and Democrats,
Have now become the same.
So what I ask from each of you,
Get up out of that chair.
Write or call your public servants,
Your vote put them there.
Demand they act and act today,
To save our land, our nation.
It has to stop and stop today,
Illegal Immigration.

Conspiracy Guy 10/29/03


7 posted on 12/30/2003 5:03:15 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (No words were harmed during the production of this tagline.)
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To: Vigilanteman
It badly needs to be proofread.Grammar and spelling errors abound.
8 posted on 12/30/2003 5:08:44 AM PST by arthurus (fighting them OVER THERE is better than fighting them OVER HERE)
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To: johnny7
No 1st Ammendment rights for you... white boy! Go home... think about your crimes to the state!

This is not a 1st Amendment issue because he, in fact, published the newsletter, and therefore the school has not deprived him of a 1st Amendment right. What this case is about is Equal Potection of the laws under the 5th and 14th Amendmends in that the school and its agents are depriving this boy of equal educational oppurtunities soley because of his political beliefs. I know most of you hate lawyers, but with the right one, I can smell big bucks under 42 USCS 1983.

9 posted on 12/30/2003 5:16:44 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: johnny7
The names of the teachers and the name of the school need to be made public. These reachers names need to be publicized in as many places as possible..
10 posted on 12/30/2003 5:19:24 AM PST by .45MAN (I don't know, What I don't know)
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To: eastforker
The faculty seems like Ferris's principal. Do you suppose they could be brothers? But how does Ben Stein fit into this scenario?
11 posted on 12/30/2003 5:29:55 AM PST by Savage Beast (If Europeans have forgotten the price of appeasement, Americans are well qualified to remind them.)
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To: arthurus
AH but Eye am post grad u ate of post modern American
edication. It's the eyedeas that count not those niggling
little details like spelling or grammaw.
12 posted on 12/30/2003 5:32:42 AM PST by StonyBurk
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To: johnny7
I think that this kid is great. Gives me hope for the future. Sure, he deserves equal protection, but if he can't stand the heat, he should've stayed out of the kitchen. The establishment doesn't like it when people stand up for themselves and announce that the emperor is naked. Even better, it looks like he's taken the lesson to heart and didn't allow himself to be silenced.

Forty school staff members signed a letter to the Santa Rosa Press Democrat calling on the Conservative Club to back up its accusations that students are being indoctrinated. "They've made all these sweeping statements about liberal teachers warping the curriculum, but as a science teacher, I'd like to see some evidence," said Mr. Alton, who co-authored the letter

Even better.....an invitation to debate. I hope that he picks up the gauntlet. I haven't seen too many liberal positions that can stand up to logic and/or close scrutiny.

13 posted on 12/30/2003 5:52:02 AM PST by wbill
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To: .45MAN
Mark Alton, the punk teacher, needs to be outted.
14 posted on 12/30/2003 6:05:43 AM PST by ClintonBeGone
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To: StonyBurk
FFor some folks, I suppose. I cannot read a piece of more than a few lines if it has too many errors because my mind must stop and correct the problems. And many errors actually change the meaning of a sentence, sometimes pretty radically. If one is paying attention to the article and what it actually proposes rather than just skimming it for a general impression then these errors destroy the usefulness of the article.
15 posted on 12/30/2003 6:18:37 AM PST by arthurus (fighting them OVER THERE is better than fighting them OVER HERE)
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To: StonyBurk
Misspellings and bad grammar in informal comments are bad enough. In a published piece they are insufferable.
16 posted on 12/30/2003 6:20:49 AM PST by arthurus (fighting them OVER THERE is better than fighting them OVER HERE)
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To: arthurus
[quote]FFor some folks, I suppose. I cannot read a piece of more than a few lines if it has too many errors because my mind must stop and correct the problems. And many errors actually change the meaning of a sentence, sometimes pretty radically. If one is paying attention to the article and what it actually proposes rather than just skimming it for a general impression then these errors destroy the usefulness of the article.[/quote]

It is better to have a poor form than no content ;)

17 posted on 12/30/2003 10:11:49 AM PST by aliquis
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To: arthurus
"The law dictated by God himself is, of course,superior in obligation to any other.It is binding over all the globe,in all countries,and at all times.No human laws are of any
validity contrary to this." Alexander Hamilton,Feb.23,1775
Quoting Wm Blackstone- Commentaries on the Laws of England,
1771 Vol.1 p.41 Similar instruction on the source of our laws can be found in James Wilsons' -Lectures on American Law -College of Philadelphia,1791.I stand on the record.
18 posted on 12/30/2003 3:14:55 PM PST by StonyBurk
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To: johnny7
The teachers don't care about illegal immigration .. it's dollars to the school for every student who attends.

This kid is challenging their funds .. people will get hostile.
19 posted on 12/30/2003 6:32:54 PM PST by CyberAnt (America is the greatest force for good on the planet ..!!)
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To: Labyrinthos; All
"What this case is about is Equal Potection of the laws under the 5th and 14th Amendmends in that the school and its agents are depriving this boy of equal educational oppurtunities soley because of his political beliefs. I know most of you hate lawyers, but with the right one, I can smell big bucks under 42 USCS 1983."

http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/42/1983.html

TITLE 42 > CHAPTER 21 > SUBCHAPTER I > Sec. 1983.

Sec. 1983. - Civil action for deprivation of rights

Every person who, under color of any statute, ordinance, regulation, custom, or usage, of any State or Territory or the District of Columbia, subjects, or causes to be subjected, any citizen of the United States or other person within the jurisdiction thereof to the deprivation of any rights, privileges, or immunities secured by the Constitution and laws, shall be liable to the party injured in an action at law, suit in equity, or other proper proceeding for redress, except that in any action brought against a judicial officer for an act or omission taken in such officer's judicial capacity, injunctive relief shall not be granted unless a declaratory decree was violated or declaratory relief was unavailable. For the purposes of this section, any Act of Congress applicable exclusively to the District of Columbia shall be considered to be a statute of the District of Columbia.



20 posted on 12/30/2003 10:28:32 PM PST by SteveH
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To: johnny7
The school is not enforceing the law. They should get sued.
21 posted on 12/31/2003 12:18:42 AM PST by Jimbaugh (They will not get away with this. Developing . . . . .)
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To: johnny7
High School Confidential

Inside the Rancho Cotate High School Conservative Club

By R. V. Scheide

President George W. Bush did not score a lot of points with the Rancho Cotate High School Conservative Club when he proposed granting temporary amnesty to illegal immigrants last week. In fact, it's fair to say that 17-year-old club president Tim Bueler was incensed by the president's proposal.

"The Republican Party is too liberal for me!" Bueler shouted from behind the podium at a standing-room-only meeting of the club Friday, Jan. 9. More than 60 people--students and teachers, liberals and conservatives--packed the portable classroom on the high school's blacktop. A throng of students waiting outside in the rain did their best to listen in as Bueler held court over what's become the hottest--and perhaps the most divisive--club on campus.

Clearly enjoying the spotlight, Bueler, a wiry junior of medium height with close-cropped brown hair, waved a copy of talk-radio host Michael Savage's latest book, The Enemy Within. Savage, aware of the national controversy the club has generated, donated 50 copies of his tome lambasting public education in America to the club, said Bueler, who one day hopes to be a talk-radio host himself.

Bueler certainly seems to have the mindset for it. Since forming in September, the club has rocketed to notoriety, with national articles in conservative publications such as the Washington Times and the conservative website World Net Daily. The attention has come thanks in large part to Bueler's penchant for hurling invective and innuendo, a talent on full display at the meeting.

There's never been a better time for illegal immigrants in the United States than today, he hisses, waving his arms about in the air. He brands La Raza, the Latino human rights organization, as racist simply because its name translates to "the Race." The Conservative Club has drawn fire both from students and teachers, who have criticized and allegedly harassed Bueler and the club for their views, but the ACLU won't return his phone calls, he says, because he's not a "murderer, rapist, liberal, or homosexual."

Apparently, the fact that the ACLU successfully defended the rights of the American Nazi Party to march in 1977 in Skokie, Ill., has eluded the student. But facts don't play a large role in Bueler's repertoire. Like talk radio, the meeting--and the club--is about style rather than substance, a forum for conservative, mostly white students to vent their spleens at the so-called liberal agenda allegedly being taught at Rancho Cotate High School. Unlike talk radio, there were adults present who had more than a passing familiarity with critical thinking.

"You cannot put things in black and white like that," insisted Richard Neffson, a history teacher standing in the back of the room who supports the club's right to exist but whose patience appeared to be wearing thin. "That's why I'm concerned about the tone of this club's rhetoric."

An incredulous look crossed Bueler's face, as if he couldn't believe he'd been punked on his own turf.

"He's getting pissed off because he's getting called out," whispered Danika O'Leary, one of about 20 students sitting on the left side of the room in silent protest.

By the time Bueler was finished trying to shout Neffson down, including a threat to sue the school for failing to protect him from his alleged harassers, the short lunch period was over and the meeting adjourned.

"Whadaya think?" the teenager excitedly asked afterward, as if the audience had just witnessed a great spectacle.

Truth be told, the meeting was rather tame, in part because Neffson used up a large portion of the available time unsuccessfully attempting to teach the club the meaning of rational discourse. That the club has in the past been irrational is not in question, the most pointed example being its "Conservative Hotline" flier circulated on campus Dec. 3, which reads: "Have you heard any un-American comments expressed by your liberal teachers lately, or have you been verbally assaulted for being conservative? If so, then call the Conservative Hotline today and tell us about it! Let's take a stand against the liberal traitors who call themselves teachers, and reclaim our schools one classroom at a time. The Conservative Club, protecting our borders, language, and culture."

The flier raised hackles among the faculty. One teacher responded with a satirical "Liberal Hotline" flier that was circulated among faculty but somehow fell into Conservative Club hands and wound up being reprinted in the first issue of the Conservative Agenda, the club's newsletter. That issue also contained a screed against illegal immigration penned by Bueler that further inflamed feelings at Rancho Cotate.

"We should immediately close our borders to all illegal aliens and deport those who are already inside the United States, including the millions who are here on expired visas," Bueler wrote. "Liberals welcome every Muhammad, Jamul, and Jose who wishes to leave his third world state and come to America--mostly illegally--to rip off our healthcare system, balkanize our language, and destroy our political system."

According to principal Mitchell Carter, about 72 percent of Rancho Cotate's 1,900 students are white; 15 percent are Latino. In the four years he's been principal, Carter says there have never been any significant racial problems. But by singling out illegal immigrants with brown skin--"every Muhammad, Jamul and Jose"--the article angered both Latino students and students with progressive viewpoints. As one Latina at the club's meeting told Bueler, "You should have included all illegal immigrants."

After the article--which, contrary to school policy, was not reviewed by the club's faculty adviser--appeared, Bueler claims that on at least two separate occasions groups of Latino students confronted him, calling him "white boy" and "racist" and forcing him to seek refuge in empty classrooms, only to allegedly be denied sanctuary by teachers who disagree with the conservative student's opinions. Carter said he couldn't comment on the incidents because they are still under investigation.

"A Dissenting Student Hounded for
His Views" was the headline in the Dec. 30 Washington Times. Such conservative organizations have heralded Bueler and the 50 or so club members. Antifeminist crusader Phyllis Schlafly has offered to debate one of the faculty at a club meeting in February. Bueler seems to have found a home, a way of being, a lifestyle that suits his angry-young-man temperament.

In a phone interview the night before the club's Jan. 9 meeting, he said his conservative calling came after the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks on the United States. His family, including his grandfather, a Pearl Harbor survivor, had long instilled a feeling of patriotism in him. After 9-11, Bueler was overwhelmed with a feeling of love for his country and disgust for liberals and organizations like the ACLU.

"God is an important part of my life," he said, declaring, "Most people who are Christians are conservatives." Although he couldn't cite any relevant passages, he claimed the Bible justifies the war against Iraq because "Islam is evil." Yet he has no plans to enlist in the military and fight what he deems a "religious war" unless a draft is instigated. Then, he says, he'll be one of the first ones to sign up.

Bueler noted that he had publicly apologized for the remarks in the newsletter that had been perceived as racist. Speaking of Latino students who were angered by the article, he said, "They feel like it's a personal attack, and I can understand where they're coming from." Despite the fact that some of the club's commentary has been perceived by both students and teachers as divisive and even hurtful, some may find it surprising that all of it, including the labeling of liberal teachers as "traitors," is protected under the First Amendment, according to Principal Carter.

"It's been very educational," he said drily, noting that the school has consulted with attorneys. "The things that have been distributed are protected speech." What bothers Carter most about the club's comments are what he calls the "unsubstantiated allegations of liberal bias" in the curriculum. "What's interesting is that you can make a charge like that without any kind of documentation."

Just like Bueler, individual teachers have academic freedom and free speech rights. If a teacher wants to hang a pro- or antiwar poster on the wall of the classroom, that's his or her prerogative. But when it comes to curriculum, teachers must follow the standards provided by the state for any given subject, and Carter says that all evidence indicates that Rancho Cotate High School is rigorously adhering to those standards.

Noting that his school has consistently out-performed state targets, he says, "We're focusing on academics here, and we've gone up."

Perhaps another statistic is more telling. The Conservative Hotline phone number belongs to Phil Graf, a semiretired Rohnert Park man who's become the club's off-campus adviser. A member of the National Rifle Association, Graf spoke at a club meeting Nov. 6, suggesting that the Columbine High School massacre might have been avoided if the teachers had been armed. But if the teachers at Rancho Cotate high school are armed with a liberal agenda, no one seems to be complaining about it on the hotline.

"I have had no conservatives call in on that line," Graf said ruefully.

22 posted on 01/19/2004 7:16:48 AM PST by the_devils_advocate_666
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To: johnny7; ZOOKER; steve8714; TigersEye; highlander_UW; GSWarrior; talleyman; swaimh; Darksheare; ...
Forty school staff members signed a letter to the Santa Rosa Press Democrat calling on the Conservative Club to back up its accusations that students are being indoctrinated. "They've made all these sweeping statements about liberal teachers warping the curriculum, but as a science teacher, I'd like to see some evidence," said Mr. Alton, who co-authored the letter

Forty staff members? And not one of them has the tenacity to debate Phyllis Schlafly tonite?

Nope.

And even Tim offered to debate a teacher tonite and not one of them has enough intellectual property in their brains to even debate a 17 YEAR OLD STUDENT! LOL

And Mr. Alton if you wanted evidence, why did you not debate Tim tonite?

23 posted on 02/06/2004 11:28:47 PM PST by Syncro (not to mention a "mere" woman...:>)
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To: Woahhs
Also the reason liberals don't want you to have 2nd Ammendment rights either. Without equal protection for this young man, the situation could spiral out of control VERY quickly.

Ah, the euphoria one can feel when regressing to the good ol' days of school when the 3 "R"s were the ONLY concern of the faculty.

24 posted on 02/06/2004 11:40:07 PM PST by EGPWS
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To: EGPWS
Ah, the euphoria one can feel when regressing to the good ol' days of school when the 3 "R"s were the ONLY concern of the faculty.

The biggest concern of the faculty in THIS school should be outraged parents.

25 posted on 02/06/2004 11:57:07 PM PST by Woahhs
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To: johnny7
"The teacher told him, 'When you say things like that, you've got to expect that things like this [mob beatings] are going to happen...

Would the teacher say the same thing about what Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, Michael Savage, et. al., say?

Granted, the above are much more experienced in expressing their opinions, but the point is: would the teacher endorse a mob going after a Hannity, Limbaugh, or Savage for their beliefs?

-PJ

26 posted on 02/07/2004 12:05:45 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's not safe yet to vote Democrat.)
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To: Woahhs
The biggest concern of the faculty in THIS school should be outraged parents.

Students

parents

Self

In that order seems reasonable however, today it is more appropriate to claim that

Self

union

personal contentment

political party affiliation

Global political concerns

and...self gratification may be a stifling factor in maintaining the above mentioned concerns in that order.

27 posted on 02/07/2004 12:22:08 AM PST by EGPWS
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To: Political Junkie Too
Good points, thanks.
28 posted on 02/07/2004 1:54:49 AM PST by Syncro
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To: johnny7
So, the students' multi-cultural diversity is being disrespected. This is unacceptable! The faculty should be proud - their indoctrination program of hate and intolerance actually works.
30 posted on 02/07/2004 2:00:46 AM PST by White Eagle
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To: EGPWS
and...self gratification may be a stifling factor in maintaining the above mentioned concerns in that order.

Which would argue for the harsh intrusion of a third party to re-prioritize that order. I can't judge from what I've read how strident Mr. Bueler has been on behalf of his son, but I'd be on these people like white on rice.

31 posted on 02/07/2004 4:05:22 AM PST by Woahhs
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"Liberals welcome every Muhammad, Jamul and Jose who wishes to leave his Third World state and come to America. . . ."

"What bothers me is the extreme views that border on racism or homophobia, the negative tone, and the hot line that calls teachers 'traitors.' "

He apologized for the "Muhammad" remark, saying, "I made a mistake, but I'm not racist."

The dialectic in action. One of the hosts who fills in for Michael Savage, Peter Weissbach, made this point while talking about the last four decades and in particular, the Trent Lott ordeal.

You see how it works? Person A makes comment. Liberal calls Person A a racist. Person A denies and feels compelled to / must prove he's not a racist. Many times Person A winds up embracing the liberals' agenda to some extent. Lott didn't just embrace the liberals' agenda to some extent he appeared to adopt the agenda as his own.

Mr. Bueler said he's ready to bring in lawyers if the school cannot protect his son. "The police don't think they were real threats, but I disagree. He shouldn't have to be threatened every day," the father said.

When the threats come from the left the mainstream response is, "Awww, it's just satire."

The weaselly left, et al. seem to be saying, he has a right to say it but he does not have a right to say it that way.

32 posted on 02/07/2004 4:29:15 AM PST by WilliamofCarmichael
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To: Syncro
BUMP
33 posted on 02/07/2004 4:52:30 AM PST by Dante3
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To: Conspiracy Guy
Like them!
34 posted on 02/07/2004 7:23:57 PM PST by Libertina
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To: Libertina
Thanks
35 posted on 02/09/2004 4:28:25 AM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Spelling is for the neurotic. Who needs it?)
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To: johnny7
Forty school staff members signed a letter to the Santa Rosa Press Democrat calling on the Conservative Club to back up its accusations that students are being indoctrinated.

I can personally attest to the fact that in a Santa Rosa city school (Cook), in the early 1970s, I received a lot of liberal indoctrination in lieu of an education.

The tradition obviously continues in lovely Sonoma county.

38 posted on 02/10/2004 6:34:55 PM PST by exDemMom (Liberal indoctrination cannot succeed when the subject thinks rather than feels.)
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