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Conservative Leader calls Dean Dean Too 'Mentally Unstable' to Be President
Talon News ^ | January 1, 2004 | Jimmy Moore

Posted on 01/01/2004 9:19:32 AM PST by nwrep

WASHINGTON (Talon News) -- The leader of a conservative political group says he thinks Democrat presidential front-runner Howard Dean is too "mentally unstable" to become president and that it is "sad" Republicans want him to be the Democrat nominee.

Religious Freedom Coalition Chairman William J. Murray sent an e-mail to supporters on Wednesday voicing his reservations about the former Vermont governor becoming the Democrat nominee for president that he says are echoed behind closed doors across the country.

"It says something about our nation that a great political party consisting of millions of Americans could possibly pick someone as mentally unstable as Howard Dean to lead their party and carry their banner into a national election," Murray wrote in the e-mail. "I have just made a comment about Dean that has not been printed anywhere, but has been said privately in newsrooms and boardrooms across the nation."

Murray added, "No one, not even Governor Howard Dean, can tell what is going to come from his mouth next."

But Murray said Republicans should not be elated at the prospect of Bush facing Dean in the general election in November.

"Republicans think that Howard Dean as the Democrat front-runner in the primaries is just a big laugh," Murray continued in the e-mail. "I don't think it is funny, I think it is sad."

Murray cited Dean's flip-flop on the issue of Christianity while on the campaign trail as evidence of his blunt description of Dean.

"I was shocked to watch [Dean] at a rally in San Francisco when he growled out loud that he wasn't going to listen to any preachers," Murray recalled in the e-mail. "Then in New Hampshire during an interview on Christmas Day with the Boston Globe, he stated that he would emphasize his Christianity as soon as he began to campaign in the South. What?"

Dissecting Dean's religious background, Murray notes that although his mother was Catholic, his father was Episcopalian and raised him in that faith.

However, when Dean met his wife, Judith Steinberg, she was Jewish. He did not want to convert to Judaism and she did not want to become a Christian. Murray said Dean and his wife contemplated becoming Unitarians as a "compromise."

"Compromise?" Murray questioned. "Unitarians do not believe in a living God."

He added, "Most Unitarians are either agnostics or atheists and they surely do not believe in the deity of Jesus Christ."

As for Dean's children, Murray said, "it gets worse."

"The Deans told their children to pick a religion, any religion, and that they would not get involved in their decision one way or the other," Murray lamented.

The two children subsequently chose to become Jewish.

Dean himself parted ways with the Episcopal Church in the 1980's "over a dispute about the route of a public bike path through the church property," Murray wrote.

"Excuse me? Now, I would leave a church if they ordained female deacons or recruited a homosexual music minister...but a bike path?," exclaimed Murray.

Murray said Dean then joined the Congregationalist Church, but now "rarely, if ever, attends."

Citing the recent Boston Globe interview, Murray said Dean was careful not to mention Jesus Christ as being "the Son of God, as a part of the Trinity, or being in any way divine."

"Indeed, he talks of Christ in the past tense, as if He had died in the human sense," Murray contends. "Perhaps Howard Dean would have been better off in a Unitarian Church, but then he would have had trouble winning any elections as a member of a near atheistic institution."

Murray says this indecision about his faith is what makes Dean change his mind so often about what he believes on a daily basis.

"One day [Dean] said he did not know if Usama bin Laden was guilty of 9-11 and that the man should get a fair trial," Murray wrote. "The next day he said Usama deserves the death penalty."

He continued, "[Dean] has stated that the United States should receive 'permission' from the United Nations before waging war and then said that the Iraqi people must determine their own fate."

Murray says this indecision about what Dean believes is evidence of someone who is "not of a single mind," alluding to possible schizophrenia, and that his run for president is both "pathetic and dangerous."

At the end of the e-mail, Murray gives a hypothetical scenario where Dean is the Democrat nominee and behind Bush by 15 percent in the polls in October. Then Bush dies running in a marathon and Vice-President Dick Cheney becomes president and decides to run against Dean.

"The Christian right envisions Cheney's lesbian daughter being married to her female lover in the White House, and they just don't vote," Murray envisions. "The Muslims join with the unions, the gays, the socialists and the loony greens to vote Dean in, and we have a madman in the White House in January '05."

Murray does not believe this is as far-fetched as it might sound and believes it should cause anyone who cares about the values and principles of America to fear the possibility of a President Howard Dean.

"The fact that Howard Dean can raise tens of millions of dollars and attract millions of supporters who really don't care what he says should scare all Americans and the rest of the world as well," Murray concluded.

Reiterating his personal concerns about Dean, Murray says that Bush should want to face the best candidate the Democrats have to offer, not their weakest.

"While Karl Rove may be ecstatic over the Democrats picking Howard Dean as their standard bearer, I am not," Murray stated at the end of his e-mail. "Further, I am sure that President George W. Bush would prefer to run on his merits and his faith against a more worthy opponent than Howard Dean."

The Washington-based Religious Freedom Coalition works on behalf of Christian rights in America and to aid persecuted Christians around the world.

Copyright © 2003 Talon News -- All rights reserved.


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To: Miss Marple
You know, this over-the-top rhetoric from our side doen't help. While I privately wonder about Dean, it is easier to say he is "tempermentally unsuited" to be president. That allegation is easier to prove and doesn't make us sound like wild-eyed fanatics.

True, but you really do have to wonder about a guy who when recently asked to name his closest living relative or associate in the armed forces, named his brother, who is

a) dead, and
b) was never in the armed forces at any point in his life.

This guy at times does seem to show characteristics of not being "all there".

81 posted on 01/01/2004 4:00:13 PM PST by jpl
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To: jpl
Agreed. However, it is better to choose less inflammatory rhetoric and let the voters come to their own conclusions.
82 posted on 01/01/2004 4:22:57 PM PST by Miss Marple
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To: cajungirl
The Deans and how they handle their religious upbringiing of their children is none of our business. To bring it up in a campaign is not appropriate.

Exactly. There are a hundred and one reasons besides religion that Dean should not be President, and I'm sure Pres. Bush will touch on most of them. Americans don't like to see religious arguments from their leaders, let Dean make the case that GWB is too religious, if he's stupid enough to try that.

I'm reminded of the way that GWB handled the "restoring the dignity" issue of his 2000 campaign. When a debate questioner tried to trap him into lumping Gore in with the Clinton-Lewinsky mess, Bush just answered that he was sure that Gore loved and respected his own family, and let it go at that. It spoke volumes about the man who Gore ran with, twice.

For me, the article at the top of this thread went over the loony line with the part about Bush dying during a marathon! He may as well have posited another killer peanut!

83 posted on 01/01/2004 4:51:51 PM PST by hunter112
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To: Boundless
Boundless, I agree. Hitlery's gambit all along has been to insure that the nomination cannot be won on the first ballot. Then the bitch steps in "to save the party from itself!"

Granted the 9 dwarfs are all rectal cavity liberals but it does seem amazing that without even one state straw poll having been taken, Dean is a lock! I suspect we will see some dramatic changes as the primaries unfold, just enough competition to insure that Dean is not nominated on the first ballot.

The Demonrats will smell blood in the water and jump the SS Deano faster than Superman farts! Step in the Cattle Futures Bribe Queen and I am willing to bet she is nominated unanimously on the 2nd ballot. Dean won't even know what him. Pure Clinton all the way!

84 posted on 01/01/2004 5:17:09 PM PST by Doc Savage
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To: Doc Savage
> Hitlery's gambit all along has been to insure that
> the nomination cannot be won on the first ballot.


Well, perhaps not "all along", but certainly since she
declined to declare and enter key early primaries.

By the way, have any of the mainstream political pundits
(any end of spectrum) been gabbing about this convention
gambit? This seems obvious enough that I'm surprised I
haven't heard/read it anywhere.

Then there's the issue of the Las Vegas line on who would
be Hillary's running mate:
- the Hero of the Balkans?
- Carly Fiorina (HP CEO)?
- Al Gore :-)
85 posted on 01/01/2004 5:36:30 PM PST by Boundless
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To: G.Mason
Now if you don't care what I think, why are you here. My quote of Whoa Bubba was what Laura Bush says to GWB when he is getting carried away. And you sir, are not very polite.
86 posted on 01/01/2004 5:42:17 PM PST by cajungirl (I adore the Brits!! Tony Blair is my hero!!)
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To: nwrep
..."I was shocked to watch [Dean] at a rally in San Francisco when he growled out loud that he wasn't going to listen to any preachers," Murray recalled in the e-mail. "Then in New Hampshire during an interview on Christmas Day with the Boston Globe, he stated that he would emphasize his Christianity as soon as he began to campaign in the South. What?"...

Why are you shocked, Mr Murray? You were expecting principle? Liberals will say or do anything to advance themselves. If there was a Baal vote, Dean would be sacrificing babies.

87 posted on 01/01/2004 7:14:04 PM PST by Byron_the_Aussie (http://www.theinterviewwithgod.com/popup2.html)
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To: nwrep
All he needs to do is self destruct at any number of debates against GWB after he gets the nod as the Dem nominee. With that wide media exposure more American's will take notice at his numerous gaffes.
88 posted on 01/02/2004 12:12:16 AM PST by BigSkyFreeper
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