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The Radio Factor ^ | 01-02-04 | Mike Barnicle

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Just Ranger and Mike Barnicle speaking right now.

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November 7, 2003: November 4, 2003: The Department of Defense press release announcing the death of two soldiers supporting Operation Iraqi Freedom noted that both were killed in action on October 18 in Taza, when enemy forces ambushed their patrol using rocket propelled grenades and small arms fire. Killed were: 1LT David R. Bernstein, 24 and PFC John D. Hart, 20, both assigned to 1st Battalion (Airborne), 508th Infantry Regiment, 173rd Infantry Brigade out of Camp Ederle, Italy. But a terse paragraph doesn't begin to do justice to what happened to these paratroopers.

A patrol was sent to investigate an explosion at the airfield outside the oil city of Kirkuk (about 250 km north of Baghdad). It was late in the day and SPC Joshua Sams was driving the last Humvee in the convoy when they came under fire. The RPGs missed, but AK-47 bullets raked the vehicle. Sams was thrown out of the vehicle, but his body armor got caught something on the vehicle. He was dragged along at 45 mph until the vehicle finally came to a stop, but it rolled backward onto his arm.

PFC Hart was already dead, hit in the neck. Oddly, Hart had told his father shortly before his death that he felt their Humvees needed more armor and that they didn't have the 'right' body armor.

Bernstein, the company Executive Officer, had a bullet in his leg. A fourth soldier in the Humvee had escaped the initial fusillade without injury. The three survivors were now taking fire from the front and rear.

According to the account that Brigadier General Leo Brooks Jr. (commandant of the United States Military Academy) read at Bernstein's funeral, the Lieutenant tried five times to rescue his driver while firing a few rounds at their attackers. The fifth time, he managed to pull Sams out. Then Sams applied pressure to the lieutenant's wound but was unable to stop the bleeding. But Bernstein had lost too much blood at that point. Sams' mother told one reporter that her son said "the lieutenant died in his arms..."

A terse paragraph from the DoD just doesn't begin to do justice to what happened.

On October 31, LTG Brooks presented the Bronze Star to Bernstein's parents at the funeral service. For reasons unknown, Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz took the long journey outside Kirkuk on October 24, to visit the ambush site.

Bernstein, recently promoted to First Lieutenant, was a Phoenixville, PA high school valedictorian and graduated fifth in West Point's class of 2001.

Hart, who had turned 20 exactly one month before the ambush and planned on becoming a Ranger, was from Bedford, MA.

Neither was married. Neither will leave behind a wife or any children. Bernstein was buried at West Point, Hart is to be buried on November 4 in Arlington National Cemetery.

Bernstein memorial, online at: http://www.skysoldier.org/bernsteinkia.htm. Hart memorial, online at:http://www.skysoldier.org/hartkia.htm.

Bernstein, Hando, Dean, and Cato B Co. 1/508th http://www.173rdairborne.com/images/iraq-b-1508-099.jpg

- Adam Geibel

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Army Pfc. John D. Hart, 20, of Bedford, Massachusetts. Hart was killed in action in Taza, Iraq, when enemy forces ambushed his patrol using rocket propelled grenades and small arms fire. He was assigned to 1st Battalion (Airborne), 508th Infantry Regiment, 173rd Infantry Brigade, Camp Ederle, Italy. Died on October 18, 2003.

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Bureaucracies change slowly. The military trains to fight the last war.

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Brian Hart, left, and his wife Alma, parents of Pfc. John Hart of 173rd Airborne Brigade, who was killed in Iraq, look on during the flag folding ceremony for their son conducted by the Bedford High School JROTC following a memorial service at St. Michael's Parish Sunday. (Herald Photo By Kuni Takahashi)

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Randy from Portland Oregon just came back from Iraq, talking about IEDs.

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Thank you. Pinging the crew.

Ranger: "The Army has been shifting money away from arming the support vehicles for years." ..."To get 3500 Humvees out that we need right now it will take them almost two years to do." "That's crazy."

Caller, just back from Iraq..."I have seen what a roadside bomb (has done) to a Humvee...had holes you could put your fist through....they're made out of aluminum...it literally looked like swiss cheese." "Your sending these Humvees out basically on the front lines. I feel safer in my pickup."

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1-877-966-7746

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Army questioning soldiers' plan to armor vehicles

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NOT INVENTED HERE at work

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talking points I gave ranger yesterday

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Too many commercials

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Army Times Front Line Photos great, check them every evening.

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Barnicle thanked Brian Hart for joining him. Might be end of this segment.

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I feel safer in my Ford F-150 SVT Lightning pickup, too:

Old curmudgeon's like to go fast, too! :):)

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Barnicle has changed subjects, now. Sounds like Brian Hart has left.