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Illegals proposal focuses on work
Washington Times ^ | Wednesday, January 7, 2004 | By Joseph Curl

Posted on 01/06/2004 10:44:27 PM PST by JohnHuang2

Edited on 07/12/2004 4:12:09 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

President Bush today will propose a broad temporary-work program that will make more than 8 million illegal aliens eligible to stay in the United States without penalty and eventually to apply for permanent legal residence and citizenship.

The White House also will call for an increase in the size of the permanent-resident program, prompting one immigration critic to brand the proposal "a two-step amnesty."


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TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; immigrantlist
Wednesday, January 7, 2004

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1 posted on 01/06/2004 10:44:27 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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2 posted on 01/06/2004 10:45:22 PM PST by Support Free Republic (Happy New Year)
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To: JohnHuang2
I am ready to strike a deal. Illegals who have jobs now and can take care of themselves without depending on the govt can stay, and the rest should be deported.
3 posted on 01/06/2004 10:55:29 PM PST by FirstPrinciple
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To: JohnHuang2
And now we'll find out if the pubbies in Congress have the cojones to stand up to President Bush and shoot this down.

IMHO, this is morally much, much worse than the pardons given by Clintoon. And this will hurt the country much more also.

My support for President Bush is waining. Sometimes I really wonder if he gets it.

4 posted on 01/06/2004 10:59:46 PM PST by upchuck (This tag line will self-destruct in five seconds. 5.... 4.... 3.... 2.... 1.... DISOLVE!)
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To: JohnHuang2
"It will protect the rights of illegal workers & it will lower the wage scale for American workers.

All companies will then find it okay to hire the illegal workers and this will drive down the wage scale for the rest of us.

Hey President Bush, why not give them student grants & loans too?

President Bush seems to be a very nice man. I am just not so sure this nation can afford him. He's got one give away program after another all in the name of getting more VOTES.

5 posted on 01/06/2004 11:10:01 PM PST by boycott
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To: FirstPrinciple
I am not as willing to compromise my principles as you apparently are--with all due respect. Illegal aliens by any other name are still illegal--and nothing should reward their ill-gotten gains in this, the land of the free. Millions of applicants wanting to enter our country through legal channels should have the opportunities that aliens currently are enjoying.

I have just visited C-Span to contact my two Texas senators to express my outrage over GWB's proposal (trial balloon proposal, I hope). Daily, I write the Bush/Cheney team to warn them that my family won't be interested in supporting "leaders" who accept illegal aliens instead of deporting them all. Where there is a will, there is a way--and 12 million illegals can be deported this month if there is a will.
Regards,
Penny


6 posted on 01/06/2004 11:20:09 PM PST by Penny
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To: FirstPrinciple
I am ready to strike a deal. Illegals who have jobs now and can take care of themselves without depending on the govt can stay, and the rest should be deported.

You can't make this deal. You see, Congress solemnly swore that the 1986 was the first and only time for eternity that they would ok amnesty for illegals.
7 posted on 01/06/2004 11:20:59 PM PST by hedgetrimmer
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To: JohnHuang2
and eventually to apply for permanent legal residence and citizenship.

I thought he was concerned about "jobs for Americans?"

This is nothing but a betrayal of working America and a backdoor amnesty as well. Shame on Jorge!
8 posted on 01/07/2004 2:18:36 AM PST by ETERNAL WARMING
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Illegal immigrants who can prove they have jobs can stay in the country legally for three years.

And those who can't will just keep doing what they are doing.

In that period, they can bring family members to the United States and enjoy rights now reserved for Americans and for foreigners with permanent-resident status, including Social Security benefits.

They already bring their family members and legal status means paying taxes. This will be a step down for them.

"It will protect the rights of illegal workers who now live in the shadows and are fearful of coming out of the shadows for fear of deportation," a White House official said yesterday.

With only 130,000 deportations a year these 10 million illegals have little to fear and they don't live in the shadows.

Mr. Bush's guest-worker proposal, which Congress must approve, would be "temporary in nature. One must go home upon conclusion of the program."

Sounds like a major disincentive to sign up for the program. But wait ...

During the three-year period, the aliens would have permission to leave the country and come back as needed, and could renew their three-year involvement in the program, the official said.

I see; so they'll be permanently temporary!?!

But the official said the two programs -- temporary-work status and permanent residence -- essentially will be "two separate doors" foreign workers must walk through.

No problemo. They are already skilled at jumping fences to avoid walking through doors.

"The temporary-worker program is a way to work here legally short of the United States citizenship, under a certain set of conditions. ... And then door number two is the normal naturalization process, which includes permanent legal status. We're trying not to blur those two things together."

You're doing a bangup job of it for not trying.

While acquiring a green card can take as long as six years, the official said illegal aliens can re-enroll for the new Bush program, which means that many will be able to remain in the United States until they get permanent-resident status.

Ahh! Now I see why you say you're not blurring the line. You're obliterating it!

Illegal aliens who enroll in the program will have no fear of deportation and can come and go between the United States and their country of citizenship "as they wish," a White House official said.

They already do. I think this White House official needs to take a walk and clear his head.
May I suggest Ft. Marcy Park?

9 posted on 01/07/2004 5:15:58 AM PST by TigersEye ("Where there is life, there is hope!" - Terri Schiavo)
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10 posted on 01/07/2004 9:02:07 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: boycott
"Giveaway" is right once the migrants touch the live wire of entitlements they are stuck there forever. Bush is creating a monster I'll bet the coyotes are salivating over this. I'll bet the Haitians are scrambling to build rafts as we speak. I'll also bet that around the world Bush's policy is being translated and scams are being cooked up that will make this whole shebang the biggest joke since Y2K hysteria.
11 posted on 01/07/2004 9:09:46 AM PST by junta
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"It will protect the rights of illegal workers who now live in the shadows and are fearful of coming out of the shadows for fear of deportation," a White House official said yesterday.

What a joke. Illegals are not the least bit fearful. On the contrary, they are completely brazen. You often see newspaper articles about illegals, with their names and photos, complaining about how unfairly this country treats them. Not long ago, illegals boldly rode around the country on "Freedom Ride" buses, making demands. There was a time, years ago, when illegals were nervous and tried to keep a low profile. Not anymore. Now they are boldly in our faces, mocking us and making demands. They know darned well they have nothing to fear.

12 posted on 01/07/2004 10:12:58 AM PST by Nea Wood (Democrats - they throw OUR money at THEIR problems.)
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