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FBI Arab translators cheered Sept. 11
WND ^ | 1/7/04 | Paul Sperry

Posted on 01/07/2004 4:43:49 AM PST by Diogenesis

Arab translators cheered Sept. 11 [.... while the FBI kept the FBI free of Jews]

By Paul Sperry
WASHINGTON – In a shocking revelation, an FBI whistleblower claims some
Arab-Americans translating Arabic intercepts for the FBI spoke approvingly
of the terrorist attacks on America more than two years ago.


Former FBI translator Sibel D. Edmonds says translators of Middle Eastern
origin working for the FBI's Washington field office maintain an
"us"-versus-"them" attitude that's so strong it may be compromising al-Qaida
investigations.


She cited examples of mistranslations and security breaches within the FBI's
language division, where translators with Top Secret clearance interpret
sensitive terror-related information for agents.


"The issues and problems within the FBI's translation units range from
security failures to questions of loyalty to competence of translation personnel
to systemic problems within their low-to-mid-level management practices,"
Edmonds said.


She made the explosive charges Monday in a letter to the National
Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States, an independent
panel investigating the 9-11 attacks and U.S. intelligence leading up to them.
WorldNetDaily has obtained a copy of the 9-page letter.


Edmonds, a translator who worked closely with FBI counterterrorism and
counterintelligence agents at an office within blocks of the Washington field
office, said she overheard some translators express sympathy for the 9-11
terrorist attacks.


"During my work with the bureau, I was seriously taken aback by what I
heard and witnessed within the translation department," she said. "There
were those who openly divided the fronts as 'Us' – the Middle-Easterners who
shared certain views – and 'Them' – the Americans who were the outsiders
[whose] arrogance was now 'leading to their own destruction.'"


Not long after the attacks, Edmonds said one translator said: "It is about time
that they get a taste of what they have been giving to the rest of the Middle
East."


She says the remark was made in front of the unit supervisor, also of Middle
Eastern origin.


"These comments were neither rare nor made in a whisper," Edmonds said.
"They were open and loud."


She says such attitudes call into question "the integrity and accuracy" of
information Arabic translators are feeding agents.


Edmonds says agents who don't speak Arabic have no way of knowing
whether the information they receive from translators is tainted.


"They simply have to trust the information given to them by translators," she
said, "and based on that, decide to act or not act."


Decisions to release terrorist suspects taken into custody are also based on
translations of interviews with those suspects, she argues.


Remarkably, agents don't even have direct security access to the translation
unit, Edmonds says. They have to be escorted into the area by translators.


She says she caught a Turkish translator intentionally blocking intelligence
from being translated by labeling it as "not pertinent." The translator also
intentionally mistranslated documents and other information, she says. And
she alleges the same linguist, Melek Can Dickerson, was granted security
clearance by the FBI despite ties to targets of FBI investigations.


After she brought the alleged breaches to the attention of her supervisors,
Edmonds was fired by the FBI. Her termination letter does not state a reason.


Edmonds filed a lawsuit, but Attorney General John Ashcroft and FBI
Director Robert Mueller got a federal judge to block it by asserting the
extremely rare claim of "State Secret Privilege."


And her lawyers say Justice's inspector general is slow-walking an internal
review of her case, even though the office has criticized the FBI for security
lapses in recent reports, some related to the language program. In fact, a Nov.
15, 2002, IG report states: "A language specialist was dismissed for
unauthorized contacts with foreign officials and intelligence officers, receipts
of things of value from them and lack of candor in his convoluted and
contradictory responses to questions about his contacts."


Most of Edmonds' charges have been confirmed by Sen. Charles Grassley,
R-Iowa, and other members of the Senate Judiciary Committee, who have
quizzed the FBI about her case. Edmonds sent a copy of her 9-page letter to
Grassley, one of the FBI's biggest critics on the Hill.


The FBI blamed the security lapses on a chronic shortage of Arabic translators,
which has forced it to hire mostly immigrants from the Middle East, which
makes background checks more difficult.


The Washington field office did not return repeated phone calls seeking
comment.


But the chief of the FBI's language section, Margaret Gullota, has insisted in
congressional testimony that the FBI hasn't loosened its standards in recruiting
Arabic-speaking translators since 9-11.


Edmonds isn't the only one complaining, though.


John Cole, program manager for the FBI foreign intelligence investigations
covering India, Pakistan and Afghanistan, told Congress about what he
believed to be a security lapse regarding the screening and hiring of
translators.


And Donald Lavey, who worked in counterterrorism for 20 years at the FBI,
recalled loyalty issues with a former Arab translator in the FBI's Detroit office.
He said wiretap translations by Mideast-born agents should have a "second
opinion," because their backgrounds may "prejudice" their interpretation and
analysis.


Both he and Edmonds note that translators often exclude large sections of
Arabic dialogue as irrelevant to the investigation, when in fact, they may be
relevant.


"There are thousands of translated documents/information and documents
that were labeled as 'not pertinent to be translated' by certain translators
before and after Sept. 11, that need to, and have to, be retranslated and
re-examined," Edmonds wrote in her letter.


Also, she says some Arab-American translators, including a supervisor,
threatened to sue the FBI for discrimination after complaints were filed
against them.


"In one case, a certain individual ended up getting a supervisory position,
even though initially he was refused due to his questionable past,
incompetence and fraudulent invoices" for expenses, Edmonds said. She
declined to reveal his name.


Edmonds says she is working with some families of 9-11 victims to lobby the
9-11 Commission to investigate the Arabic translation department at the FBI.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 911; 911commission; arabamericans; arabictranslators; enemywithin; fbi; fbitranslators; sibeldedmonds; sibeledmonds; translators; whistleblower
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To: angkor
But since its a WND story, we should probably be talking about this in terms of hypotheticals.

Sure, let's say a hypothetical American citizen converts to Islam and hypothetically joins the Army. A hypothetical war breaks out with Islamic terrorists and supporting regimes. The soldier is hypothetically sent to an Islamic country where he hypothetically murders fellow American officers. You get wind of this hypothetical story in the media for a few days or weeks and it is hypothetically buried.

Now back to this hypothetical FBI story reported by WND. People with personal experience or knowledge of classified information are covered under various statutes and oaths. They will not usually tell you things like this. Sometimes the topic may leak in the context of some hypothetical FBI whistleblower case, at least until some hypothetical Federal judge rules the information should not be made public.

I believe we should be very concerned about bias and incompetence in the agencies. A word to the wise is often sufficient.

121 posted on 01/07/2004 7:36:30 AM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: joesnuffy
My guess if true they werent just "arab" translators..but Arab Muslims..ok though cause they are "moderates"

What if they were Americans Muslims who want America to be quite different ?

122 posted on 01/07/2004 7:37:50 AM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: Cultural Jihad
That's ok. I don't think all Muslims are anti-American. However, if we have hired translators who are sympathizers to America-hating-terrorists, then we are really stupit. And instead of throwing a rug over the problem, we need to expose it, and clean it up.
123 posted on 01/07/2004 7:38:04 AM PST by petitfour
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To: Cultural Jihad
Darn if we could only remove the equal protection clause of the 14th Amendment!

You won't have to. They plan to take care of that while counting on you to defend their rights while they do it.

124 posted on 01/07/2004 7:39:49 AM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: GOPJ
We can't develop a machine to do these translations?

LOL, back to MT now are we ?</p?

MT has its place as a tool of tranlators and research will continue but there is no current substitute for a qualified human translator when lives are on the line.

125 posted on 01/07/2004 7:42:30 AM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: Publius6961
Are you mad? Do you have an inkling of the volume of data involved? What will they do? ignore the current hundreds of thousands bits of data to go back and verify perhaps millions of misinterpreted prior messages?

The first step towards solving a problem is having a firm grasp of its magnitude.

Yes, you understand the scope of the problem. There are too few gifted and talented translators to go around. The pay scales are not commensurate with the need.

126 posted on 01/07/2004 7:46:31 AM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: DeathfromBelow
My daughter was a Persian Linguist (Air Force), her best friend was an Arabic Linguist (both left service because of Clinton's military cutbacks resulting in back to back overseas deployments), when 911 happened and the FBI was advertising for linguists, both their applications were completely ignored (they were never even contacted). Maybe because they didn't fit the "mideast" minority descriptions. BTW, they both served over 6 years at NSA and in Saudi doing intercepts. Go figure.

Yep, yep, yep, and yep. It is heartbreaking that some people are in charge of our national security and all we get to do is die.

127 posted on 01/07/2004 7:48:18 AM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: Diogenesis
I seem to recall that the conspirators deliberately used circumlocutions and indirect, idiomatic references while communicating their plans for destruction. Things like calling the event a "wedding" and describing the digits of significant numbers - dates and times - by their physical appearance, such as calling a "9" a "cake with a tail".

Translating such disguised meanings requires an idiomatic comprehension of the language, as well as extreme care not to dismiss apparently irrelevant chatter that is actually pertinent. Jews and Christian arabs with local knowledge of the language would seem to be ideal candidates for the task.
128 posted on 01/07/2004 7:51:00 AM PST by MainFrame65
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To: MainFrame65
9-11 is more than 2 years past and this is coming up again NOW??
129 posted on 01/07/2004 7:57:50 AM PST by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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placemark to read later
130 posted on 01/07/2004 8:02:39 AM PST by WestCoastGal ("Hire paranoids, they may have a high false alarm rate, but they discover all the plots" Rumsfeld)
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To: af_vet_1981
No substitute when the translators are lying? Gimme a break. Machines can be back-up with redundant translations to catch fraud? Why not when lives are on the line?

MT has its place as a tool of tranlators and research will continue but there is no current substitute for a qualified human translator when lives are on the line.

131 posted on 01/07/2004 8:09:06 AM PST by GOPJ
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To: GOPJ
No substitute when the translators are lying? Gimme a break. Machines can be back-up with redundant translations to catch fraud? Why not when lives are on the line?

You are mixing two different issues, competency and loyalty.

Machine Translation (MT) is not yet sophisticated enough in the languages we are discussing to translate, much less detect fraud. There is, as yet, no substitute for qualified human translators.

132 posted on 01/07/2004 8:16:26 AM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: Sacajaweau
9-11 is more than 2 years past and this is coming up again NOW??

Did you think the agency employees would retire ?

133 posted on 01/07/2004 8:18:01 AM PST by af_vet_1981
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To: Diogenesis
How many scholarships has the Department of Homeland Security put up for native-born Americans of non-Islamic families to major in Arabic? Or Urdu? or Pushto? or Farsi?

What do you expect?

134 posted on 01/07/2004 8:20:05 AM PST by Jim Noble
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To: Diogenesis
Thanks for the ping, sadly. Heaven help us in this war...
135 posted on 01/07/2004 8:23:02 AM PST by eureka! (The ongoing destruction of the Rat party is giving me smile wrinkles.....)
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To: af_vet_1981
What's more, I know for a fact the federal gov't is heavily involved in MT research and application.
136 posted on 01/07/2004 8:26:26 AM PST by freedomcrusader
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Not that I don't believe the crux of the story, but the headline said the translators "cheered" and I can't find in the article where someone is quoted as saying the translators "cheered".

It seems like WND may have stretched the truth a little with the headline.

Still, this deserves serious investigation.
137 posted on 01/07/2004 8:41:10 AM PST by Your Nightmare
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To: Peach
I do NOT want to believe this story.

I do not, either, and I don't at this point.

138 posted on 01/07/2004 8:42:36 AM PST by cyncooper ("The evil is in plain sight")
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To: Diogenesis
Edmonds said one translator said: "It is about time that they get a taste of what they have been giving to the rest of the Middle East."

Big surprise, they have Demorats in the FBI...

139 posted on 01/07/2004 8:49:41 AM PST by TheDon (Have a Happy New Year!)
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To: eastforker
Why do I have this feeling in my gut that somewhere in the upper management level of the FBI someone wants to see the destruction of America. This isn't the first time either. It's almost if someone is deliberately undermining any effort to stop terrorism.

That is my thinking regarding the CIA and the Wilson brouhaha. A segment of the CIA sent Wilson on his bogus journey to Niger for a reason, and started anonymously planting stories with the BBC and other newspapers, undermining President Bush, our country, and the WOT, then going public when the ball didn't start rolling to their satisfaction. I am hoping that is the angle Patrick Fitzgerald is pursuing in his investigation.

140 posted on 01/07/2004 8:49:46 AM PST by cyncooper ("The evil is in plain sight")
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