Why the Cherokee Nation Allied Themselves With the Confederate States of America in 1861

Lew Rockwell.com ^ | January 7, 2004 | Leonard M. Scruggs

[Aurelius]

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[Jonah Hex]

ping to you.

[BenLurkin]

IIRC, Some of these Indian tribes owned slaves.

[RebelBanker]

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[stainlessbanner]

Cherokee bump

[Agnes Heep]

For most people, North and South, the slavery issue was not so much whether to keep it or not, but how to phase it out without causing economic and social disruption and disaster.

I suppose that's why the South was so warm for the extension of slavery to the territories--phasing it out, and all that.

[Non-Sequitur]

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[Huck]

Aaaaaah, nothing like a good old fashoined FR civil war thread. Especially one prompted by a spew rockwell article! Oh, to be young again, posting large paragraphs of content that no one reads, but rather just answers back with their own paragraph of content, ad infinitum!

[snippy_about_it]

You can visit the FReeper Foxhole Daily threads and read the History.

It's an education in history, everyday. Stop in and see our mission statement.

Here is a very recent thread related to this topic.

The FReeper Foxhole Profiles General Stand Hope Watie - Jan. 5th, 2004

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[Mamzelle]

Took a lot of federal scalps.

I hear that Charles Frazier (Cold Mountain author) is now writing about Cherokees during Civil War times.

Haven't seen that movie yet--can't get past the fact that it was filmed in Romania.

Even a cursory look at Cherokee history ought to remind readers that the tribe was rather like an Indian Roman Empire--it conquered and absorbed many other minor tribes, Creek and Catawba, Lumbee and even some Seminole and many others. They generally just enforced a tribal "assimilation" on their conquests, but the unassimilated would not survive.

Called "genocide" and "ethnic cleansing" if whites do it.

Goes to show that a human being is always a human being, no matter what romance is attached to the ethnicity.

Most of the intensely southern, rural mountainous decendents are strongly Cherokee in blood--the ones with the rebel flags on pickup trucks.

[stainlessbanner]

More Reading

Cherokee Nation Declaration of Causes -or- Cherokee Declaration of Causes

The FReeper Foxhole Profiles General Stand Hope Watie - Jan. 5th, 2004

[Mamzelle]

*snicker*

Just proved you wrong.

[Happy2BMe]

"Disclaiming any intention to invade the Northern States, they sought only to repel the invaders from their own soil and to secure the right of governing themselves."

My great grandmother and grandfather came across the Trail of Tears from North Carolina into Oklahoma Territory.

My great grandfather then took the life of a white Union soldier who was harrassing his family and fled into the hills to keep from being hanged.

When Registration was ordered, my great grandfather (Parker) did not go into the reservation to register.

Had he done so, none of his descendents would be here now to tell the story.

[stainlessbanner]

"After the war Robert E. Lee also wrote, "The best men in the South have long desired to do away with the institution [of slavery], and were quite willing to see it abolished. But with them in relation to this subject is a serious question today. Unless some humane course, based on wisdom and Christian principles, is adopted, you do them great injustice in setting them free."

(Thomas Nelson Page, Robert E. Lee: Man and Soldier [New York, 1911], page 38.) Lee did not own slaves (he freed his in the 1850s), nor did a number of his most trusted lieutenants, including generals A. P. Hill, Thomas J. "Stonewall" Jackson, J. E. Johnston, and J. E. B. Stuart. "

[Aurelius]

I suppose that's why the South was so warm for the extension of slavery to the territories--phasing it out, and all that.

That was a political necessity - necessitated by the obvious intent of the northern industrial states to use their majority to dominate and exploit the south.

[Aurelius]

Welcome, lamebrain. I'll be looking forward to your inane comments.

[snippy_about_it]

Thanks stainlessbanner. We had the same thoughts it would seem.

We really need more people to know our history. So many of us know so little about our country from schooling and need to learn on our own to understand things better.

Good morning to you.

Southern BUMP!

[Lancey Howard]

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Don't go getting too grumpy now Huck.

[Lancey Howard]

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Don't go getting too grumpy now Huck.