[aynrandy]

"Hoyer said he plans to be even more vociferous about Bush's linking of the fence to loan guarantees for Israel. "

that is just wrong:

The deduction does not target Israel’s security fence, which Israel will complete in consultation with the United States. This deduction was anticipated and applies only to the construction of settlements.

[2banana]

Forman also said Jews naturally would vote Democratic.

Is this racism or what?

[sarasota]

I don't know...I just found it interesting that Gore backed Dean and not Lieberman. That had to hurt.

[smith288]

"Only on the extreme left edge of the Democratic party, like the extreme right edge" of the Republican Party, "do you see anti-Semitism and anti-Israelism, and we have to stamp it out," Forman said.

I consider myself FAR right wing and I wholeheartedly support Israel. What exactly is the "extreme right edge" anyways? KKK? I dont consider them Republican...afterall, they WERE southern democrats.

[ken5050]

Unlike other Dem voting blocks, which for the most part are heavily concentrated in certain states and congressional districts, the Jewish vote is well dispersed throughout the country..and if you see a shift to the GOP could prove to be enough to make a difference in a few keys states...Wisconsin for example...and while Jews might not YET be willing to financially support the GOP, if they withhold their $$$ from the Dems, that's even MORE effective...

[smith288]

I guess Ill never understand the Jewish democrat vote...

Republican president removes a guy who finances family members of suicide bombers responsible for maiming innocent Jewish people... So who do they support?

"Anyone but Bush ®"

[robertpaulsen]

"Worried by signs of President Bush's soaring popularity among Jews"

Based on ... what?

The "unreliably small samples" of the exit polls during the 2002 midterm election? Which showed 2:1 against Bush.

The recent Zogby polling showing 75 percent Jewish support for the Democrats? Wow, if this is "soaring popularity", then what was it before?

[CholeraJoe]

*ping

[VRWC_minion]

The rat party is telling the Jew to stay home, we'd rather have Dean who wants to let tyrants in the mideast go unchecked and wants to put the UN (who consistently condems Israel) in charge.

Who you going to believe ? Your lying eyes or me ?

[cwb]

I do think the Democrats will lose some Jewish support this time around. Aside from the anti-semitism that is permeating from the Left, the recent comparisons of Bush to Hilter aren't too smart. For those Jews who remember the atrocities of Hitler and Nazism, these comparisons are an insult to the memory of those who died in the Holocaust. The democrats are doing to Hitler and Nazism what many of them have already done to racism: With these comparisons, they are minimizing that evil...and insulting those who are intimately familiar with such brutality. The irnoy is, if someone would have done to Hitler what Bush has done to these scum in the Mid-East, we might not have had a Holocaust...and yet, we are to believe Bush is the evil one? It just shows what a warped perspective liberals have about themselves and our society

[TheGeezer]

How can the Party of antisemite "rev" Al Sharpton, who insigated the murder of two Jewish men in Brokklyn by a mob, claim to be the preferred party for Jews? Sharpton hates Jews, judging by his actions, and the DemcRat party has treated Sharpton with deference, pretending that he is a presidential contender.

And lest we forget "rev" Jesse Jackson, I recall when he called New York City "hymietown" because of its large Jewish population.

The DemocRat Party is the home of big-tent hypocritical bigots.

[bray]

I could never become a Jew, I love bacon too much!

I swear the hardcore Dim Jew would vote for more showers and ovens if a Democrat ran on it? We only need to take 10% to do real damage to the Rats! Same with Blacks in that they do not see W as the KKK member the left always portrays. Remember the dragging death commercials???

Pray for W and Iraqi Freedom

[MarkL]

I think that while the number of Jews who vote republican will grow, the vast majority of Jews will still vote democrat.

Using my own family as an example, there's just no reasoning with them. You can point out example after example of how democrats are hurting them, their interests, and Israel, they'll agree, then say, "but there's no way that I'm going to vote for a republican."

I think that more college age Jews will vote republican, after seeing the "peace protestors" spewing their hate at not just Israel, but Jews in general, and seeing the links between groups like the PA and moveon.org.

I also think that if we can keep the "Bush==Hitler" advertisements front and center in the minds of Jews, it will hurt the democrats as well.

Mark

[Mr. Mojo]

Stress the Democratic Party's commitment to Israel

Stress a lie? Clinton's Oslo was a committment to Israel's destruction, if anything.

[NYC GOP Chick]

The campaign has three prongs, according to senior Democratic operatives who were involved in its formulation: Stress the Democratic Party's commitment to Israel and raise questions about Bush's own commitment; remind Jewish voters they are much likelier to favor Democratic positions on domestic issues, and marginalize Democrats who alienate Jews.

Right. Sure, there are quite a few 'rats who speak and vote the right way about Israel, but the worst anti-Israel crap (bordering on Jew-hating) comes from the left. While I'm not thrilled with quite a bit that Bush has (and has not) done wrt Israel, he's a damn sight better than Clintigula was. At the very least, Bush isn't acting out of an obsession with getting a Nobel prize.

As for marginalizing fellow 'rats?! Yeah, they sure did a lot to dump Cynthia McKinney and Earl Hilliard -- like avidly supporting them in their respective primaries. :::roll eyes:::

Ann Lewis, the Jewish former director of communications for the Clinton administration, attended a series of meetings of top Democrats in spring 2002 to discuss what they saw as a deteriorating situation with Jewish voters.

Barney Frank's sister.

He says there are signs Bush may well get tough with Israel in a second term, when he doesn't have to worry about re-election.

Unless Colon Bowel does a total and complete mind control thing, I don't see any signs of that whatsoever -- just leftist wishful thinking, such as they are capable of thinking.

"Look at the demographics of people who vote Democrat: People who don't go to church often, with a graduate level of education, who don't have guns, who live in the inner suburbs or cities," Forman said. "This should be a Democratic constituency."

Hmm... I'm Jewish, don't go to synagogue very often at all, I have a graduate degree, don't have a gun (although that's not what I desire) and live in *THE* city...and yet I'm a fairly hardcore conservative Republican. That's right, commies, keep taking "the Jewish vote" for granted... < /snicker>

"Those that believe and want to believe that they´re going to run a campaign on domestic issues are mistaken," Brooks said. "This will be a foreign-policy election."

The 'rats tried the switcheroo in '02 -- with disasterous (for them) results.

Dean has said his remarks were misinterpreted and that he merely meant greater U.S. involvement in resolving the Israel-Palestinian conflict.

Right. Now, when and how will he slither out of how he likened the pali terrorists as "soldiers" and said that Israel has to dismantle "lots" of settlements.

The sad thing is that last month, my dad and I went to a benefit concert for the Friends of the IDF at a synagogue in a fairly well-to-do area of Lawnguyland. Early on, I looked around the crowded synagogue, leaned over to my dad and said "I'll bet anything that come November 2004, you and I will be just about the only people from this room to vote for Bush. I can't believe that these people paid so much money to be here on such a crappy day [it had been snowing and sleeting that day], and will then work against this effort by voting for Dean."

Two virulently anti-Israel congressmen — Cynthia McKinney of Georgia and Earl Hilliard of Alabama — organized support against the 2002 solidarity vote that triggered the new Democratic outreach to the Jews. Jewish money helped opponents defeat them in 2002 party primaries, and Hoyer is not shy about reminding Jews of that success.

Yes, it was quite a success -- against the DCCC, who supported these two bigots. I love Hoyer taking credit for things he didn't do.

[ZULU]

"The thing that comes out loud and clear is that while Israel is of tremendous importance to Jewish voters, they're not one-dimensional, they still are a liberal-Democrat core constituency, they're very much anti-Bush on domestic programs and they did not enthusiastically support the Iraq war," Zogby said."

The world through the eyes of an Arab.

[jpl]

The good news for us is that the demographics are VERY much in our favor. Today's younger Jewish Americans are far more likely to vote Republican their their parents and grandparents who still worship the memory of Eleanor Roosevelt. The times they are a changin'.

[SJackson]

If you'd like to be on or off this middle east/political ping list, please FR mail me.

[SJackson]

that is just wrong:... The deduction does not target Israel’s security fence, which Israel will complete in consultation with the United States. This deduction was anticipated and applies only to the construction of settlements.

No, you're wrong. The administration made the determination that those portions of the fence built east of the 67 line were "settlements".

[Interesting Times]

Gosh, why would anyone question the Left's commitment to Israel?

[sweetliberty]

The party of anti-semitism panders to the Jewish vote. Isn't that cute?

The democRATs' biggest fear is of people who are able to think for themselves, especially when those people bother to do so. More traditionally democRAT voters are realizing that their party has become a party of whacko, social and cultural reprobates and they don't like what they see. The antics of the RAT party are starting to look more like slapstick comedy even than corrupt politics.