What's Wrong With the Proposals for a New Guestworker Program?

fairus ^ | jan 04 | fairus

[Keith in Iowa]

What's wrong with it is there are no provisions for turning off influx of illegals - they will do nothing to stem the tides at the borders

If they sealed the borders first, I'd support a guest worker program.

[Support Free Republic]

Hey, I don't mean to be nosey...

... but I'd really like some bacon,
or some help for FR.

[kingu]

Interesting comments, but, uhh, this ain't McCain's proposal, so I'm wondering why it's being posted in response to Bush's plan.

[Kozak]

AND with the provision that any illegals here would have to return to their home country, and reapply for guest worker status. Any caught here after a certain date would be deported with NO CHANCE AT Guest worker status , or other visa. They also need to make sure that the guest worker program is tightly controlled with real teeth for violations.

But realistically, none of this is going to happen until we have a major catastrophe as a result of our lax border control and immigration policy. Then God help the responsible politicians when the populace vents it's wrath.

[Thumper1960]

Bend over and kiss "it" goodbye.

We're about to lose our sovreignty. Our definition of state. Our language. Our culture and our uniquely American way of life. The rule of law is about to become meaningless. I never thought that I'd live to see the day when a Republican president would commit such a heinous act and surrender our borders to criminals and alien ideals.

This is sickening to me.

[Zipporah]

"If they sealed the borders first, I'd support a guest worker program.".. they didn't seal them after the other amnesties.. national security didn't make them seal the borders.. the 9/11 attack didn't urge them to seal the borders..what makes you think that yet another amnesty will make them seal the borders?

[Keith in Iowa]

>>...what makes you think that yet another amnesty will make them seal the borders?

Nothing. They don't have the testicular fortitude to do it. Neither party does.

[Zipporah]

.. disheartening isn't it?

[sunryse]

>THE TRUTH is that when the economy takes a downturn, there >will be millions of guestworkers in the U.S. without a >job, without a home, without health care, and with no >intention of returning to their home countries. The >guestworkers’ unemployment problems become the public’s >burden.

It is my understanding that if they aren't working, they have to go. With "illegal", it might be easier to deport.

[Bob]

What's wrong with it is there are no provisions for turning off influx of illegals - they will do nothing to stem the tides at the borders

As wrong as that aspect of it is, I think what's even worse is that another amnesty will probably encourage even more illegal immigrants to become part of that tide.

[nutmeg]

read later

[KantianBurke]

coming to a neighborhood near you:

[Ramius]

I'm not just flaming out here... I'm genuinely interested in your approach: How do we "seal" 22,000 miles of border? Lots of people throw that out as if it were like locking a gate. But how is it actually done?

Checkpoints every few miles on every highway? Everybody carries a passport or other "papers" to prove they are a citizen?

[CWOJackson]

Coming?

Looks just like underneath the interstate on the edge of downtown Seattle...only it's white people living there.

[thoughtomator]

The author does not understand the proposal he is commenting on. Sad he wasted his time writing this.

[Snoopers-868th]

I agree. This is not about immigration in my opinion, it is about "no borders." ANYWHERE expecting average Joe Blow to pay tab for all the foreign help, government programs and for any ramifications caused due to fall-out of this proposal. All for the good of the "world" and "economic" power. I don't believe it--it is for the power-players and profits no common man ANYWHERE in the world will benefit these low wages and I do not believe they are the ones the benefit is intended for. I CAN'T AFFORD ANY MORE OR I WILL HAVE TO GO ON THE TAKE AND YOU ALL WILL HAVE TO PAY FOR ME!! This is all wayyyyy tooooo scary for me on the cusp of retirement age...

[eeriegeno]

Then God help the responsible politicians when the populace vents it's wrath.

Amen to that statement. I surely thought that Dubya was smarter than he appeared today but I guess that he is, after all, just a politician looking for his next vote. This will bite him and the pubbies big time in years to come.

He was right on a number of points today, most importantly that our nation is a nation of immigrants. But he is having a problem distinguishing between 'legal' immigrants and 'illegal' immigrants.

GW said that jobs will be offered first to American citizens? Does that mean that there will be a published list of jobs for which I can compete prior to an illegal being placed in that job? I think not.

He also said that 'illegals' after being made legal, because they have an employer, would be able to change jobs at will? Between jobs they would have no employer sponsor and would become illegal again? Go figure?

Finally, it seems that we are just coming out of a major economic downturn (fabricated or not fabricated for political purposes) where American workers, 350,000+ of them are having a problem finding work? Does this announcement that Dubya made today mean that next weeks unemployment index will be zero?

[Nanodik]

If they sealed the borders first, I'd support a guest worker program.

Exactly, but it's obvious that the feds have no interest in sealing up the border with Mexico. It would be so cost effective to put a 200 yard landmined buffer between the US and Mexico. Just have 10 ft high, razor wire fences on either side. AND it would actually save lives. No more illegals dying in the desert. It would take just one idiot to cross in and get blown to unrecognizable pieces and everyone would get the message.

[Thumper1960]

They are pushing us. Pushing us hard. And, too far. It's got to stop. Now!