[Russ]

Unfortunately, these days there is no such thing as putting out a proposal and having a "debate" on the subject. Just look at the vitriolic reactions from the Democrats (as well as conservatives). TREASON? What the hell, let's each one of us try to outshout the other and be more outrageous than the one before. This is what the term "national debate" has been reduced to. Welcome to the new America of two minute shouting matches on CNN or Fox.

I think I'll tune out...

[Trust but Verify]

Yep. I don't know which side is more ridiculous anymore.

[FairOpinion]

"TREASON? What the hell, let's each one of us try to outshout the other and be more outrageous than the one before. "

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What more, let's all attack Bush and yell that he is committing "treason" and let's elect a Bin Laden and Saddam-loving Democrat instead, that'll show Bush.

Wait, we already did that, when the outraged conservatives elected Clinton, to punish Bush I. Guess who really got punished -- the country and all of us.

But let's do it again!

Bush isn't a good enough conservative, in the view of some, so let's elect Dean.

Great logic!

(/sarcasm)

[texastoo]

This is what the term "national debate" has been reduced to.

During the 2002 election, the word was put out by the RNC and Rove that immigration would not be a subject of discussion. We, conservatives, were silenced by the Republicans who thought the election was more important than our country's sovereignty.

You are now seeing the results of trying to control and silence a free people.