Black Confederates

phxnews ^ | January 8, 2004 | Charles Goodson

[WhiskeyPapa]

I didn't say they broke into Bastone, they were the first to push the Germans back.

Bastogne.

Here's what you wrote;

"They were the first to break through the German lines with the 4th Armored following through their successes and getting all the credit and glory for it."

4th AD broke into Bastogne.

Lt. Col Abrams was the C.O. of the unit that broke in.

How odd you bounced on his knee and didn't know that.

Walt

[U S Army EOD]

Tell it to your srink.

[U S Army EOD]

Thats right the 4th AD capitilized on what the 6th did. Did you read any of the history on the 6th. How many of these people have you personally met and talked to and how many of the actual histories do you own and have read? I went to Bastone when I was very young but still can remember what I saw there. Everything around there had Nuts still painted on it as late as 1950-1951. This was long before you were still poo pooing yellow, sonny.

You really need help.

[U S Army EOD]

Yep, black, while, yellow, or red back then, it was not good to be on the bottom of the economic ladder.

[WhiskeyPapa]

I went to Bastone...

Bastogne.

Walt

[WhiskeyPapa]

You are wrong again, the English hunted slavers.

The slave trade was outlawed in the U.S. in 1808.

The British outlawed slavery in 1833.

Walt

[U S Army EOD]

So

[WhiskeyPapa]

Did you read any of the history on the 6th.

Both the 4th and 6th AD's were outstanding units. General Robert Grow of the Super Sixth and General John S. Wood were both outstanding commanders. I have Baldwin's bio of General Wood, "Tiger Jack".

The 6th I am less familar with, but I know you know even less.

Walt

[U S Army EOD]

Shouldn't you take something to calm down and try to get back on the actual subject. Why do you enjoy starting fights with people, not just me but a lot of other FReepers? This was a pretty good thread until you started trying to get attention again.

[cyborg]

I was about to FReepmail Mr.B and congratulate him on a civil war thread that actually turned out to be W--- free and very decent.

[U S Army EOD]

I got my information from the official division hstory book of the 6th Armored and combat history of the 15th Tank Bn both of which I still have copies. I also got it from my father and other members of the division who were actually there. How about you?

What has this got to do with Black Confederates?

Why do you like to upset people? Has this got anything to do with you being banned before?

[U S Army EOD]

Yes but then along came Walt, sigh and things just turned to doo doo as they normally do when he shows up.

[WhiskeyPapa]

Shouldn't you take something to calm down and try to get back on the actual subject.

I enjoy exposing liars and the clueless.

I'm still trying to figure where you fit.

Walt

[U S Army EOD]

Walt all your life you will probably trying to figure out things but you never will.

[WhiskeyPapa]

Shouldn't you take something to calm down...

Still online?

What was the word that appeared on the 4th AD patch? What was the nickname of the 4th AD?

Tick tick. Time now is @ 11:45 EST.

Walt

[U S Army EOD]

This thread is about Black Conferates isn't it?

[WhiskeyPapa]

This thread is about Black Conferates isn't it?

4th AD ia known as the "Breakthrough" division.

That word appears on the division patch.

1 AD: Old Ironsides

2 AD Hell on Wheels

3 AD Thundering Third (I think)

4th AD -- the Breakthough Division.

And -you- knew General Abrams?

What was the name he gave to all his tanks?

Tick tick.

Walt

[WhiskeyPapa]

This thread is about Black Conferates isn't it?

This thread is about ignorance.

Walt

[WhiskeyPapa]

By the way, I have a picture of me about 6 years old sitting in the lap of Col. Abrams in Hersfield, Germany in about 1951...

The name of all of Lt. Col. Abrams's tanks was "THUNDERBOLT".

Since you don't seem to know.

Walt

[billbears]

False. Most slave ships were flagged in Britain

False

With Great Britain, France, Portugal, Spain, and the United States all having outlawed the Slave Trade by 1820, military efforts were begun by all these nations to enforce the ban

With no way of stopping them, vessels flying the US flag were virtually immune from prosecution, and American ships entered a golden period of slave trading

For the next twenty years, ensuring the ability of US ships to sail unimpeded by others was the main object of the African Squadron

Here

Slavers in the 19th century often found protection for the illicit trade by sailing their vessels under the American flag. This unintended haven was the result of a deep-seated distrust of the fledgling United States toward the British, and their policies in Africa. Since the Revolutionary War and the War of 1812, Great Britain had been the traditional political rival of the US; and as the young nation’s productivity began to grow, also an economic rival.

Here

Of course I'm sure a list of at least some of the ships flying under the union colors and delivering slaves could be produced if need be.