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Why is there a bias against interracial dating?
AJC ^ | 1/10/04 | AJC

Posted on 01/10/2004 7:02:50 PM PST by freedom44

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To: cyborg
..why such a powerful role model to black youth couldn't embrace his own race"

Tiger is part Asian, part white, part Native American, and part African-American.

When Fuzzy Zoeller made the stereotypical joke about blacks' eating habits in reference to Woods, the national media jumped on Zoeller. Tiger didn't involve himself in the issue.

When President Clinton extended an invitation to Woods to attend the Jackie Robinson tribute at Shea Stadium, Tiger refused, and it was reported Woods had nicer words for Zoeller than for President Clinton.

21 posted on 01/10/2004 7:46:04 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: freedom44
I dated a woman who was half black. We didn't get any grief here in CT or back home in Il when I went to visit the folks. However, we took a trip to Germany and should have seen the stares I got there. I look very German. It was like I was being accused of heresy.
22 posted on 01/10/2004 7:47:06 PM PST by raybbr
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To: Magno
I can work with them and chat with people of other ethnicities, but when it comes to dating, I prefer someone similar to me.

And there is absolutely NOTHING wrong with feeling that way. Even though I went out with white guys (I'm a black woman), I KNEW my husband would be black. So, like Walter Williams, I practiced discrimination. I didn't want the hassle, grief and heartburn that interracial dating would bring.

23 posted on 01/10/2004 7:48:48 PM PST by Sister_T (Democrats are the REAL enemies to freedom in the world!)
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To: Sister_T
Where do I express anger in my posts??? If it doesn't apply to you then don't worry about it. I wasn't referring to ALL black females, just the ones that have a perpetual chip on their shoulder despite their success. You have issues lady and are way too angry. IN FACT, I think you'd be the prime target for Waiting to Exhale sweetie. I grew up with a lot of girls LIKE yourself so I CAN go there but I won't.
24 posted on 01/10/2004 7:50:36 PM PST by cyborg
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To: fight_truth_decay
Tiger does what I do, that is don't involve yourself in fruitless,pointless activities. I don't correspond, talk to, be friends with angry, negative people myself.
25 posted on 01/10/2004 7:53:18 PM PST by cyborg
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To: Motherbear
Nothing inflammatory about that. I agree with you because that's usually my argument about the way things go, culture wise a black christian man and a white christian woman (esp if they go to the same church no less) share more things in common. Depends on where you live too I think, on the types of people you meet.
27 posted on 01/10/2004 8:02:12 PM PST by cyborg
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To: Sister_T
LOL, talking about unintentionally proving the point.
28 posted on 01/10/2004 8:03:50 PM PST by Sloth ("I feel like I'm taking crazy pills!" -- Jacobim Mugatu, 'Zoolander')
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To: cyborg
You have issues lady and are way too angry.

Pot . . . kettle.

29 posted on 01/10/2004 8:05:37 PM PST by Ganymede
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To: Sister_T
With Kobe Bryant, why isn't the history of his "alleged" victim allowed to be considered?

The "history" could, I agree, show lack of good judgment; but it does not justify rape. If ,in deed, a rape did take place.

Respectfully
fight_truth_decay

30 posted on 01/10/2004 8:06:21 PM PST by fight_truth_decay
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To: Sister_T; cyborg
why isn't the history of his "alleged" victim allowed to be considered?.

I believe this is a legal issue, i.e., it has been prohibited for many years to probe into the sexual history of the rape victim.

Other aspects of her history, such as her mental health, may be fair game.

The sad truth is the history of blacks and whites in this country is bitter and painful. White women were right there with white men, discriminating against blacks, encouraging and defending the abuse of black men and women and, if you're black, you would know that.

I would guess that many of today's young people (both black and white) know little of the past political and cultural history of this country. I don't think cyborg is one of them, but that she has her own history and reality to draw from. I think many from this generation have left the anger of the previous generation behind and are more apt to deal with people on an individual basis, rather than a racial basis.

This is a good thing, and reflects Dr. Kings dream of a world where children would be judged on the content of their character.

31 posted on 01/10/2004 8:07:56 PM PST by happygrl
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To: Sister_T
With Kobe Bryant, why isn't the history of his "alleged" victim allowed to be considered? Maybe because it destroys the notion that SOME white women are as pure as snow as SOME white men have propped them up to be.

You are way off base. It has nothing to do with Kobe's color but more to do with the Rape Shield Law which protects the accuser's identity and past, be they BLACK OR WHITE. This is to insure that future rape victims will have no qualms coming forward. If you recall during OJ's trial, the history of Nicole, her family and her friends were as much on trial as he was.

32 posted on 01/10/2004 8:13:39 PM PST by StarFan
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To: freedom44
Interesting. Over the years, I've had black male friends who dated (and some who married) whites, and black female friends who dated (and one who married) whites. All of the said the dating was fine, being married was hard because of attitudes they encountered and how tough it was on the children. Uniformly, they said the biggest attitude problems were from the black side.

My own limited experience bears this out. During college and grad school I dated two black girls and, later when I was in the Army, I dated a Commanche girl. In all cases, these were relationships that developed out of mutual interests and some natural attraction. In the first instance, during the summer her parents found out and forbade her from seeing me, in the case of the second black girl, she was confronted by a number of other black girls on campus and threatened by them. With the Commanche girl, I'd been seeing her in and around the small city where I was stationed for a couple of months, when she asked me come out to her place to pick her up (she lived with her parents). It was with some shock that I found the tribal police wouldn't even let me on the reservation, and that her father had forbidden her to see 'that white army officer'. He even made her quit her job in town to work out on the reservation.

It's very funny, I hear all the stories of white families reacting badly, ala Guess Who's Coming to Dinner, but what I've actually seen has been the opposite.

33 posted on 01/10/2004 8:18:29 PM PST by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
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To: happygrl
I would guess that many of today's young people (both black and white) know little of the past political and cultural history of this country. I don't think cyborg is one of them, but that she has her own history and reality to draw from.
***Thank you for saying that because you happen to be right.

I think many from this generation have left the anger of the previous generation behind and are more apt to deal with people on an individual basis, rather than a racial basis.

*** Right again. There's just no way you can broadbrush people today.

This is a good thing, and reflects Dr. Kings dream of a world where children would be judged on the content of their character.

*** I agree. This is a liberal's worst nightmare (and maybe some conservatives as well).
34 posted on 01/10/2004 8:19:30 PM PST by cyborg
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To: Sister_T
The sad truth is the history of blacks and whites in this country is bitter and painful. White women were right there with white men, discriminating against blacks, encouraging and defending the abuse of black men and women and, if you're black, you would know that. Maybe that's why so many of those so-called "angry black women" feel the way they do about black men who feel the need to chase down white women as if white women were the only women on the planet.

This is understandable, but on the other hand there have also been high profile successful black females who seemed only interested in marrying very successful white men.

And then there's the perception (which is probably accurate) that black women have an easier time of moving up in what is considered "the white man's world", and that black women have used this advantage to exert their independence and blow-off black men as they see fit....and even categorize them as losers.

Admit it. Black women haven't always been so perfect to their men.

Oh, and a lot of these resentments exist between white men and women when it comes to interracial relationships...but I do agree it is probably more of an issue for minorities.

35 posted on 01/10/2004 8:20:43 PM PST by Jorge
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To: happygrl
My parents are both Persians from Iran, they've never had a problem with me dating anyone, but they *strongly* discourage Blacks, and look down on Arabs, Mexicans, Pakistini, and Indians. Of course, they would prefer me to marry Persian, but they are not adamantly against others.

I think it's just a traditionalist mindset more than anything.

I've noticed that i myself have catch myself from the same type of feelings towards those groups, only because it was traditionally drilled into my brain.

My future kids can date anyone as long as they are educated, hard-working, moral, family-oriented, and are going to love my daughter/son like i do.

36 posted on 01/10/2004 8:20:52 PM PST by freedom44
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To: Sister_T
I re-read my post, and found out I made a lot of spelling mistakes. I am glad you understood it, my first sentence can mean anything.

The TV really brings a lot of interferance to my thinking. I just turned it off.

Thanks for the feedback. Sometimes I feel guilty when a pretty and nice lady of different ethnicity starts to flirt with me. One day, there was a woman from Korea that was being very persistant. I really felt guilty. But I did not feel comfortable going out with her. Sometimes I feel uncomfortable with people of my same ethinicity but of different nationality. I think that I am very picky (selective).

This may sound stupid, but I always try to find ladies who look like my mother, even the same hair style.
37 posted on 01/10/2004 8:26:00 PM PST by Magno
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To: Motherbear
Hear, Hear! Cultural compatablity is the key in any marriage, regardless of race or ethnicity. Perhaps it reflects class bias, but I am much more concerned about my daughters' potential spouses (when in comes to that) being cultivated gentlemen, with good educations and character, reflecting sound Christian principles (I'm less concerned with precise doctrine), comfortable in the world of ideas and the high culture of the West, than I am about race or ethnicity.
38 posted on 01/10/2004 8:26:36 PM PST by CatoRenasci (Ceterum Censeo [Gallia][Germania][Arabia] Esse Delendam --- Select One or More as needed)
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To: Magno
At least you are honest...btw you must have had a really good mom. She made quite an impression on you.
39 posted on 01/10/2004 8:30:00 PM PST by cyborg
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To: Sister_T
When the victim is white, suddenly, the burden of proof SHIFTS to the black man to prove that he's innocent. With Kobe Bryant, why isn't the history of his "alleged" victim allowed to be considered? Maybe because it destroys the notion that SOME white women are as pure as snow as SOME white men have propped them up to be.

Right.
The "alleged" victim who had the sperm of two other men and the pubic hair from a white man in her panties when examined by a doctor after her "alleged rape" by Kobe.

The decision not to consider her "history" is due to the fact that white men consider her "pure as snow". LOL!

40 posted on 01/10/2004 8:30:12 PM PST by Jorge
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