Alan Steinman, Keith Kerr, and Virgil Richard. Picture: New York Times Posted on 01/11/2004 1:30:21 PM PST by Destro
US generals, admiral come out of the closet - flag fag officers
By John Files
Washington
December 11, 2003
Alan Steinman, Keith Kerr, and Virgil Richard. Picture: New York Times
Three retired US military officers - two generals and an admiral - who had been among the most senior officers to criticise the "don't ask, don't tell" policy for homosexuals in the military, have revealed that they are gay.
The three - army Brigadier-Generals Keith Kerr and Virgil Richard, and Rear-Admiral Alan Steinman of the Coast Guard - said the policy had been ineffective and undermined the military's core values - truth, honour, dignity, respect and integrity.
(Excerpt) Read more at g2mil.com ...
Personally, I don't care much if they're straight or gay per se so much as if they ever come on to another man while in the military. If that ever happens, IMO, they should be discharged at once.
Trolling?
'If however they took their endeavors elsewhere OFF base/pot and OFF duty (in this case duty hours) then their actions were in no way a viloation of their oaths because even military personnel have a personal and professional life, as long as the two remained seperate then there should be no criticism of their careers.'
Read the UCMJ, it is even older than the thread you resurrected. Got agenda?
Destro, very few here worship W......
Wonder if, a Rear-Admiral injecting some Seamen into a rear area.. would have been considered Heroic.? by these two.. or three even..
Welcome to FR.
One post and one post only?
Hmmm.
Can you find newer posts of mine to comment on? LOL - I barely remember this one.
Troll at post 198 resurrected the thread.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1055912/reply?c=198
Nope, but then the majority are still heterosexuals. The military is no place to practice "tolerance" of deviant behavior. The men have to trust each other with their very lives. I think that kind of and level of distraction within a unit would simply get people killed. I feel the same way about women in fighting units too, BTW. There have been some very good threads on that subject already.
It all revolves around the purpose and mission of the military. Kinda like the old saying, "We aren't here to practice democracy, but to defend it."
Here's a kicker for ya, the UCMJ even states that sodomy is "any position" other then "missionary." That includes oral or other various forms of sexual behavior that most hetero/homo sexuals engage in. So if the UCMJ is the end all be all then I would venture to guess that there are thousands more in the services that are in violation. Or are we just picking and choosing which ones we will/wont follow???
'Here's a kicker for ya, the UCMJ even states that sodomy is "any position" other then "missionary." '
Source?
You seem to have a prob with discharging homos from the mil, even those who signed up knowing being a homo was aginst regs. So much so that you've resurrected this thread twice, got agenda?
Only if they were Hungary.
Admiral Steinman, I learned from my shipmates, was a very manly, virile, manful person, and a firm believer in strict discipline, corporal punishment, and nude apartment wrestling.
10% is a myth that even the homosexuals admit is waaaay wrong.
In their own lawrence brief, the homoadvocats amitted the maxpotential of the population is 2.7% and even that is probably as fake as teh 10% number.
This just points out the absurdity of the situation and the proper policy of do ask and expell. They should have kept their mouths shut.
These "officers" have undermined their honorable service with dishonorable service because they were lying. There should be a way for the military to be able to reduce their pension rank.
Homosexuals are abnormal, period.
Homosexuality is about recreational sex, period.
I predict more of this articles as we get closer to 2006. Especially from the NYT. The ABC fake polls on shiavo. Barney Frank calling all opposition to "X" as mere religion.
The MSM bots, particularly the limp wristed NYT, are just pushing their own lifestyle. Why were these clinton appointees ok with don't ask don't tell? BECAUSE IT PROTECTED THMESELVES. They were counting on subsequent democrat congresses and presidents to endorse homosexual conduct.
These are clinton appointees still serving the left. They now show they never served the USA.
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