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Mass Immigration Said 'Swamping' U.S. Cities
NewsMax ^ | 12 Jan, 2004

Posted on 01/12/2004 7:33:52 PM PST by Happy2BMe

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To: Happy2BMe
Shut up and support this wonderful president!!
22 posted on 01/12/2004 8:21:23 PM PST by DLfromthedesert (What is the point of fighting in Iraq if we surrender to Vicente?)
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To: jolie560
The problem is most new (illegal) immigrants don't want to meld, be it language or culture-wise. In other words, they don't aspire to become Americans. They want to set up their own culture here, live off of our social programs and all that can be gained from our, we the taxpayers, money.

Earlier, legal immigrants (my ancestors not so long ago) were eager to learn English, become an American citizen and become part of the great melting pot. Sad to say, but from my own personal experience, that is not the case today.
23 posted on 01/12/2004 8:22:30 PM PST by mplsconservative (I'm a South Dakota native, and darned ashamed of it, well, just the Tommy Daschle part.)
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To: joesnuffy
Paul McCartney was my favorite Beatle.

"Blackbird" is a beautiful song.

We really need to take the broken wings around here and learn to fly.

24 posted on 01/12/2004 8:23:24 PM PST by Happy2BMe (Liberty does not tolerate lawlessness and a borderless nation will not prevail.)
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To: hedgetrimmer
Immigrants are required to pay state and federal taxes on wages earned in the US at the same rates as US citizens.

Contrast that with products made in the US which are sold overseas. State governments collect no sales tax from products exported to, and sold in, Europe, the far East, etc. (Note to self: double check if that's true) even though the state absorbs "the environmental stress" of producing those goods.

If you're thinking about public finance, free trade in the labor market looks like a win on the revenue side compared to free trade in goods.
25 posted on 01/12/2004 8:23:52 PM PST by ConsistentLibertarian
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To: mplsconservative
"The problem is most new (illegal) immigrants don't want to meld, be it language or culture-wise."

So if they dressed like you, talked like you, listened to the same kind of music as you, liked the same kinds of food as you, etc etc they'd be OK.

But they don't, so they're not?
27 posted on 01/12/2004 8:26:06 PM PST by ConsistentLibertarian
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To: ConsistentLibertarian
[, I'm inclined to think immigration restrictions are just another example of protectionism]

You are correct, and if you have followed the free trade debate you will have noticed that one of the major objection to free trade is that it depresses American wages.

28 posted on 01/12/2004 8:26:44 PM PST by jpsb (")
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To: DLfromthedesert
~ Take the FReeper Immigration Reform Poll ~

29 posted on 01/12/2004 8:27:42 PM PST by Happy2BMe (Liberty does not tolerate lawlessness and a borderless nation will not prevail.)
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To: TomInNJ
And our president couldn't wait to kiss their fat butts.
30 posted on 01/12/2004 8:28:11 PM PST by DLfromthedesert (What is the point of fighting in Iraq if we surrender to Vicente?)
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To: jolie560
Bring em on--the more the better.

Do you ever miss Calcutta?

31 posted on 01/12/2004 8:28:40 PM PST by dagnabbit (Tell Bush where to put his Amnesty and Global Labor Pool for American Jobs - Tancredo in the primary)
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To: Happy2BMe
Send them back.

We have more than enough people, thank you.
32 posted on 01/12/2004 8:30:22 PM PST by Age of Reason
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To: mplsconservative
There are a lot of English speaking people in Kenya. Maybe we should allow free movement of labor between Kenya and the US?

Or allow free movement of labor provided immigrants pass an English competency exam that 50% of Americans could pass?

I don't know if any of that is what you had in mind. I'm just trying to brainstorm some possibilities, letting you tell me what would be OK and wouldn't. That way I can work backwards from failed solutions and try to pinpoint the exact problem.
33 posted on 01/12/2004 8:30:30 PM PST by ConsistentLibertarian
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To: Happy2BMe
Polls don't matter; the elite have spoken.
34 posted on 01/12/2004 8:31:06 PM PST by DLfromthedesert (What is the point of fighting in Iraq if we surrender to Vicente?)
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To: jolie560
Send them back.

We are overcrowded.
35 posted on 01/12/2004 8:31:44 PM PST by Age of Reason
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To: Age of Reason
"Send them back. We have more than enough people, thank you"

That's not what the business lobby is saying. Shouldn't we pursue a pro-business agenda?
36 posted on 01/12/2004 8:31:52 PM PST by ConsistentLibertarian
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To: jolie560
We are an immigrant nation . . . .

We used to be a slavery nation, too.

But times change.

37 posted on 01/12/2004 8:33:24 PM PST by Age of Reason
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To: Sabertooth
ping
38 posted on 01/12/2004 8:34:02 PM PST by Pelham
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To: ConsistentLibertarian
Shouldn't we pursue a pro-business agenda?

We should pursue a freedom agenda, first.

39 posted on 01/12/2004 8:34:14 PM PST by Age of Reason
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To: TomInNJ
The boundless audacity!!! They're doing US a favor? Who do they think they're kidding?

Well, let's return the favor, empty our prisons, and send them to Mexico City.
40 posted on 01/12/2004 8:34:25 PM PST by DLfromthedesert (What is the point of fighting in Iraq if we surrender to Vicente?)
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