Mass Immigration Said 'Swamping' U.S. Cities

NewsMax ^ | 12 Jan, 2004

[Texas_Dawg]

the real Dawgs are in Georgia at UGA

Thanks. What Dawgs did you think I was referring to?

[Texas_Dawg]

Most FReepers want limited immigration.

If we rounded up all 10 million illegal aliens in America tomorrow and sent them home, would you support letting 10 million other immigrants coming in to fill their jobs? What number would you support coming in at that point (after the 10 million have been removed)?

[Henrietta]

You assume that if we sent all the lettuce pickers home, the jobs would stay here. This is a false assumption. The lettuce picking jobs would move to Mexico (assuming the workers are from Mexico) because, as all you pro-immigration folks keep repeating, illegal immigrants "do the work that American citizens won't do"), and if there are no workers, the jobs can't stay here. Then we will have put our farmlands to higher and better use and will have gotten illegals back to their own country, where they can't continue to exploit our social service systems.

[rbessenger]

I'm jumping in late to this conversation but it should be said that if US cities are feeling the sting of unbridled immigration- imagine what is happening in small towns. Tiny, po-dunk backwater towns are faced with the necessity of police, fire, emt and medical professionals who have to speak spanish.

I traveled through Hardeeville, SC in the past few weeks and the only grocery store in town is all spanish and the church on main street has one english speaking service a week compared to three spanish speaking services. If the big cities are having to make changes imagine what happens when English is no longer the official language in Mayberry RFD.

[Texas_Dawg]

You assume that if we sent all the lettuce pickers home, the jobs would stay here. This is a false assumption. The lettuce picking jobs would move to Mexico (assuming the workers are from Mexico) because, as all you pro-immigration folks keep repeating, illegal immigrants "do the work that American citizens won't do"), and if there are no workers, the jobs can't stay here. Then we will have put our farmlands to higher and better use and will have gotten illegals back to their own country, where they can't continue to exploit our social service systems.

How do you move a farm to Mexico? Those farms would still be picked, it would just cost a lot more. Everyone would pay a lot more for their food. You think a few billion dollars wasted on illegals on welfare is bad? (This is not an argument against illegal immigration but one against welfare, fwiw. I'm opposed to that entirely, not just for illegals.) Just try your proposal and see how many billions would be wasted raising labor rates that high. And that's to say nothing for restaurants, construction and other industries that would be damaged by this, raising prices that much higher for all of us. Instead of just wasting billions of dollars and sending a severe blow to our economy, why don't we just let the people stay and do their jobs as documented workers? If not, and you insist on spending billions to round them all up and send them home, can we then bring in 10 million more legal immigrants wanting to work to replace all the employees you just fired?

[Henrietta]

There are plenty of workers here. I am willing to pay a higher price for my lettuce to not have my country overrun by people who flout our laws.

[Texas_Dawg]

I am willing to pay a higher price for my lettuce to not have my country overrun by people who flout our laws.

That's nice. And you have your right to vote that way. I am opposed to illegal immigration as well, but I don't feel the federal government should have a policy that bars people willing to work and contribute to America's economic growth, in favor of people who refuse to do a simple job unless paid a much greater sum of money. Yes, there are "plenty" of workers here to survive at a much less prosperous level. I have a feeling you would be really mad if unemployment was sky-rocketing and the Dow was tanking as would happen under your "ship them all home" plan.

[Henrietta]

" I am opposed to illegal immigration as well, but I don't feel the federal government should have a policy that bars people willing to work and contribute to America's economic growth, in favor of people who refuse to do a simple job unless paid a much greater sum of money. "

Actually, it doesn't sound like you are opposed to illegal immigration at all. And you feel that the government should favor illegal immigrants over its own citizens. You think it's okay for people to come here illegally, but only if they will work for peanuts. I say it's not okay for them to be here at all.

[Texas_Dawg]

Actually, it doesn't sound like you are opposed to illegal immigration at all.

I am opposed to illegal immigration. I am also opposed to jay-walking and breaking any laws.

And you feel that the government should favor illegal immigrants over its own citizens.

No, I don't. I think the laws on immigration should either be enforced, but preferably, changed. GWB is choosing to change them and I agree with that.

but only if they will work for peanuts.

I support a policy that brings in the immigration necessary to fill jobs at a level that will keep the economy growing, with people wanting to live and respect our society (as the overwhelming amount of Mexican immigrants (who make up the large majority of our illegal immigration) do).

I say it's not okay for them to be here at all.

If the law goes through (it probably won't) and they are given legal status, will you respect and treat them as any other legal resident?

[Happy2BMe]

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