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Arizona Prepares For Secession From US
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | 1-14004 | Julie Foster

Posted on 01/14/2004 2:59:22 PM PST by riri

An Arizona state legislative committee has approved a resolution calling for the dissolution of the federal government in the event that it abolishes the U.S. Constitution, declares martial law or confiscates firearms -- scenarios some say are not unrealistic. Critics of the resolution, however, call the measure a "total waste of time."

Rep. Karen Johnson, a Mesa Republican and chair of the House Committee on Federal Mandates and States' Rights, authored the resolution which the committee approved 3-2. Only the committee's vice-chair, Republican Rep. Gail Griffin, abstained from voting.

Specifically, House Concurrent Resolution 2034 outlines the origin of the United States, emphasizing the sovereignty of the states and their constitutional right to "establish a new federal government for themselves by following the precedent established by Article VII, Constitution of the United States, in which nine of the existing thirteen states dissolved the existing Union under the Articles of Confederation and automatically superceded the Articles."

It also articulates constitutional violations committed by the federal government as justification for the measure, saying "... the fifty current principals, or signatories, to the [Constitution] have done well in honoring and obeying it, yet the federal agent has, for decades, violated it in both word and spirit. The many violations of the Constitution of the United States by the federal government include disposing of federal property without the approval of Congress, usurping jurisdiction from the states in such matters as abortion and firearms rights and seeking control of public lands within state borders," says the resolution.

By adopting HRC 2034, Arizona states its intention to dissolve the current federal government with the approval of 34 other states and, in essence, start over. Participating states would re-ratify and re-establish the present Constitution "as the charter for the formation of a new federal government, to be followed by the election of a new Congress and President and the reorganization of a new judiciary," in keeping with the original intent of the "founding fathers." Individual members of the military will return to their respective states and report to the governor until a new president is elected.

In addition, each state will assume a prorated portion of the national debt and will own all land within its borders. After the new government is formed, the remaining 15 states will be permitted to join the revised union upon application, as was the case with the original union.

A three-year veteran to the Arizona Legislature, Johnson told the Sierra Times the resolution is "insurance policy." "If the federal government declares martial law or attempts to confiscate guns, the states shouldn't have to put up with that," she said.

Joseph Stumph, well-known author and historian, testified in favor of the resolution at the hearing.

"We're proposing that if things get as bad as they could get, that these states won't allow the federal government to put us into a one-world government," said Stumph, who is publishing a similar proposal in his home state of Utah. "I don't expect we'll get 35 states to sign on. The American people are not educated enough on this yet," he added.

The resolution was introduced Jan. 26, and now needs to be approved by the Arizona House. Should HRC 2034 successfully complete the legislative process, it will appear on the November ballot for voter approval. But one legislator does not think the measure will be taken seriously.

Rep. Bill Brotherton, a Democrat member of Johnson's committee, called efforts to promote the bill a "total waste of time."

"Obviously ... one of the more important issues we have is mental health in this state," Brotherton said mockingly. "I wonder if we are going to have a bill on the grassy knoll next to decide who shot Kennedy."

Johnson said she was asked by several Maricopa County residents to look into preventing the federal government from asserting power not authorized by the federal and state Constitutions. To Johnson, the resolution is a watered down, limited version of the "Ultimatum Resolution," written and promoted by Stump.

Johnson said HRC 2034 was introduced in response to recent actions by the Clinton administration regarding the Grand Canyon. On a recent trip to the landmark, President Clinton declared three new national monuments, threatening the property and livelihood of ranchers in the region.

Fears of martial law and firearm confiscation are mere "conspiracy theories" to some, but in light of the elaborate preparations government made for potential Y2K problems -- including a ready-to-sign executive order giving Clinton the equivalent of dictatorial powers -- "these fears have become real possibilities," according to Johnson.

Johnson also made it clear that the action of possible secession should only take place if the federal government suspends or violates the Constitution without approval from the state.

"There may be times when the nation may be at war, and such steps may need to be taken. But the states should have a backup plan if necessary," she said.

Arizona is not alone in its fears. Johnson noted other legislators in other states are considering taking similar steps.

Despite her current success with HRC 2034, Johnson is not relying solely on non-binding resolutions to ensure state sovereignty. She has been joined by a coalition of six other Arizona state representatives, private ranchers and other states' legislators in a lawsuit filed against the federal government.

The lawsuit is an attempt to reverse creation of the Grand Canyon-Parashant National Monument, which covers more than 1 million acres of land, roughly the same amount as Grand Canyon National Park. The group says national monument status will affect use and access to its private property, which will be surrounded by the federal property.

It also asks the court to find the 1906 Antiquities Act, used to create the Parashant monument, unconstitutional.. The coalition's lawyer claims the president "has taken the act to the point of actually abusing the rights of people in the West."

The act gives presidents emergency authority to protect threatened federal lands or "objects of historic and scientific interest," but lawyer Lana Marcussen said that in using the act for a non-emergency case, the president has gone too far.

Julie Foster is a staff reporter for WorldNetDaily.


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Arizona
KEYWORDS: abolish; arizona; constitution; secession; stump
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1 posted on 01/14/2004 2:59:23 PM PST by riri
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To: riri
a resolution calling for the dissolution of the federal government in the event that it abolishes the U.S. Constitution

Why would the feds bother abolishing the Constitution when the Supreme Court allows them to ignore it---in some cases to the cheers of alleged 'conservatives'?

2 posted on 01/14/2004 3:02:41 PM PST by Land of the Free 04
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To: riri
Well, Arizona Politics and Politicians have never been what you'd call "TOP DRAWER"...I'd say they're more like "lockboxes"!
3 posted on 01/14/2004 3:03:38 PM PST by princess leah
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To: HiJinx; JackelopeBreeder; adam_az; DLfromthedesert; hsmomx3
ping
4 posted on 01/14/2004 3:04:08 PM PST by riri
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To: riri
There is no such thing as States' Rights. Father Abraham abolished them in 1865.
5 posted on 01/14/2004 3:08:47 PM PST by Comus
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To: princess leah
May the ghost of Barry Goldwater haunt your day!
6 posted on 01/14/2004 3:10:10 PM PST by adam_az (Be vewy vewy qwiet, I'm hunting weftists.)
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To: princess leah
er, days. :)
7 posted on 01/14/2004 3:10:26 PM PST by adam_az (Be vewy vewy qwiet, I'm hunting weftists.)
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To: riri

Awwwwwwww they just wanna see if anyone chases after them..
8 posted on 01/14/2004 3:11:50 PM PST by SouthernFreebird
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To: stainlessbanner
emphasizing the sovereignty of the states and their constitutional right to "establish a new federal government for themselves

That was already tried about 140 years ago. The feds do not recognized state sovereignty or the Constitutional right to self determination.

9 posted on 01/14/2004 3:23:26 PM PST by PistolPaknMama (pro gun Mother's Day 2004! www.2asisters.org)
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To: riri
A bold move to say the least.
10 posted on 01/14/2004 3:27:05 PM PST by Paul C. Jesup
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To: riri
I think Mr. Brotherton is right about emphasizing mental health issues in his state....I'm sure there's a whole lot of people like him suffering from rectal/cranial inversion disease. Probably the result of watching the ongoing Kobe/MJ/Martha/Pete Rose slop and nonsense while thinking he's really getting the real news....yes, another useful idiot is created.
11 posted on 01/14/2004 3:32:31 PM PST by american spirit (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION = NATIONAL SUICIDE)
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To: american spirit
Not much of an opus. Didn't say anything about how great the U.S. used to be.
12 posted on 01/14/2004 3:35:46 PM PST by bayourod ( Dean's anti-terrorism plan: "treat people with respect and they will treat you with respect"12/1/03)
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To: riri
Your link didn't go to the article. Could you give me a better one?
13 posted on 01/14/2004 3:41:09 PM PST by CFW
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To: Paul C. Jesup
When I lived in Alaska they had their own party who were sorry they came in to the USA. I knew people who had voted to come in and were sorry they had.They talked about it freely. These people always set up tables with all the parties, to hand out information. Can not think of the name of the party right now.Seemed odd as I came from Mass and had family that were in the war to start country.I could not see any one leaving.May not like things about the USA but I do like my country and would just like it to be better.I am just an American.
14 posted on 01/14/2004 3:42:04 PM PST by sawyer
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To: riri
An oldie but goody!! Bttt!
15 posted on 01/14/2004 3:43:31 PM PST by monkeywrench
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To: riri
I remember this one, but can't remember which year it was...
16 posted on 01/14/2004 3:44:12 PM PST by JackelopeBreeder (Proud to be a loco gringo armed vigilante terrorist cucaracha!)
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To: riri
This is an old story from years ago.

For one, I don't believe that the legislature is yet in session.

But, most obviously to me, Gail Griffin hasn't been a state representative for years. She's currently serving as the Chairman of the Cochise County Republican Committee.

I remember that this was voted on in committee years ago but nothing ever came of it. I don't believe it made it to the house floor.

17 posted on 01/14/2004 3:45:54 PM PST by Spiff (Have you committed a random act of thoughtcrime today?)
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To: riri
SUNDAY FEBRUARY 6 2000

This is a February 2000 article. Any reason you are posting it today?

18 posted on 01/14/2004 3:47:06 PM PST by CFW
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To: american spirit
Rep. Bill Brotherton, a Democrat member of Johnson's committee, called efforts to promote the bill a "total waste of time."

"Obviously ... one of the more important issues we have is mental health in this state," Brotherton said mockingly. "I wonder if we are going to have a bill on the grassy knoll next to decide who shot Kennedy."

Note the similarity in language to the many shills who appear on FR whenever anyone suggests doing something other than kvetching about overreaching federal power.

19 posted on 01/14/2004 3:53:12 PM PST by eno_ (Freedom Lite - it's almost worth defending)
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To: riri
You Go Girl!
20 posted on 01/14/2004 3:53:35 PM PST by Don Corleone (Leave the gun..take the cannoli)
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