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Bush Gives Country Away
WND.com | 01-15-03 | Farah, Joseph

Posted on 01/15/2004 9:49:14 AM PST by Theodore R.

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21 posted on 01/15/2004 10:44:33 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: RebelBanker
Any politician who even suggested that would never be elected dogcatcher again.

Given that a healthy majority of the electorate supports precisely that policy, your assertion is patently false.

22 posted on 01/15/2004 10:49:18 AM PST by Carry_Okie (If ignorance is strength, we're in a world of hurt.)
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To: RebelBanker
Not exactly a formula for future electoral success.

Bread and circuses works much better. For a while.


23 posted on 01/15/2004 10:49:58 AM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: RebelBanker
Any politician who even suggested that would never be elected dogcatcher again.

Nah. They'd just die in a *tragic campaign tour plane crash*.

-archy-/-

24 posted on 01/15/2004 10:51:17 AM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: archy
Wow, according to your chart, FDR was the greatest conservative President ever. Thanks.
25 posted on 01/15/2004 10:51:50 AM PST by Texas_Dawg
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To: Carry_Okie
Again: Please think about what it would take to round up and deport 8 to 12 million people - men, women and children. Then think about how that would look on every TV set in the world (with appropriate "compassionate" liberal commentary).
26 posted on 01/15/2004 10:52:02 AM PST by RebelBanker (Deo Vindice)
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To: Dane
I guess you could put Ronald Reagan in that contingent when he signed full amnesty.

Reagan at least admitted that it was a mistake.

Bush isn't proposing amnesty.

In all but name he is. There is no enforcement mechanism in his proposal to repatriate blue card holders at the end of their stay. These are people who entered illegally and stayed for years. They have no reason to leave and therefore no motive to abide by a law without a means of enforcement.

They won't vote Republican either.

27 posted on 01/15/2004 10:52:30 AM PST by Carry_Okie (If ignorance is strength, we're in a world of hurt.)
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To: RebelBanker
"Any politician who even suggested that [deporting illegal invaders] would never be elected dogcatcher again."

So you're saying the President should follow the lead of Democratic polls before considering whether he should enforce sovereign American law on behalf of the American people?

"Please think about what it would take to round up and deport 8 to 12 million people - men, women and children. Then think about how that would look on every TV set in the world (with appropriate "compassionate" liberal commentary)."

As opposed to all the conservative "commentary" pointing out the President's pandering, hypocracy, and refusal to put 'Principle over Party'?

28 posted on 01/15/2004 10:52:51 AM PST by F16Fighter
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"Funny Joe didn't mention Reagan's amnesty."

Reagan at least had the excuse of no historical example from which to draw conclusions.

What's your excuse?
29 posted on 01/15/2004 10:52:53 AM PST by Tauzero (There is no lettuce shortage in Australia)
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To: RebelBanker
Maybe the folks who advocate this think that they could do some sort of Nacht und Nebel effort.
30 posted on 01/15/2004 10:53:21 AM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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To: RebelBanker
"without making any suggestion at all about an alternative"

So?
31 posted on 01/15/2004 10:54:15 AM PST by Tauzero (There is no lettuce shortage in Australia)
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To: archy
Hey archy, your graph is wacky. What about the 6 million people in the armed forces during World War II(42-45). Sheesh what a crock.
32 posted on 01/15/2004 10:54:21 AM PST by Dane
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To: RebelBanker
Please think about what it would take to round up and deport 8 to 12 million people - men, women and children. Then think about how that would look on every TV set in the world (with appropriate "compassionate" liberal commentary).

We don't have to forcibly deport them all. First, institute a guest worker program that makes work permits in the US only available at an embassy or consulate within the country of origin. Second, start enforcing existing statutes penalizing businesses that hire these people not possessing the permits.

They'll leave on their own, in droves.

There are few among us who oppose a guest worker program or a rational rate of legal immigration. Those among you who mischaracterize our position in order to have a defensible position are out of line.

33 posted on 01/15/2004 10:57:17 AM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly gutless.)
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To: Poohbah
"Maybe the folks who advocate this think that they could do some sort of Nacht und Nebel effort."

I hadn't figured you would surrender so easily, Poob.

34 posted on 01/15/2004 10:58:25 AM PST by F16Fighter
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To: Texas_Dawg
Oh... wait a second... are they the ones that have that little 13-year-old kid that lectures everyone about adult issues?

You are attacking Kyle?

Anyway, he is 14 now.

35 posted on 01/15/2004 11:00:33 AM PST by carenot (Proud member of The Flying Skillet Brigade)
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To: Carry_Okie
They'll leave on their own, in droves

Really, they will leave on their own.

Huh, are you going to have the IRS have new powers and manpower to look over millions of businesses.

36 posted on 01/15/2004 11:00:37 AM PST by Dane
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To: Dane
In 1954, President Eisenhower deported 1.4 million illegal aliens. Was Ike secretly an admirer of the gestapo?

We need to enforce our immigration laws, not have a President who apologizes--as Bush has done--because they are are not "humane."

37 posted on 01/15/2004 11:01:45 AM PST by Thorin
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To: Carry_Okie
There is no enforcement mechanism in his proposal to repatriate blue card holders at the end of their stay

It is a proposal. It is up to Congress to figure out the specifics. This isn't an Executive Order you know.

38 posted on 01/15/2004 11:02:25 AM PST by Dane
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To: Texas_Dawg; Kwilliams
Makes you feel important picking on a 13 yr old kid, who is now 15? Haven't outgrown your bully mentality? This kid shows more class and intelligence than you have
39 posted on 01/15/2004 11:02:46 AM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: Thorin
Farah is also on target about the other outrage: the willingness of some so-called conservatives to find excuses for what Bush has done.

That's why I just cancelled my subscription to the Wall Street Journal. Their editorials support this outrage. Anyone who puts money or political opportunity before country deserves contempt.

40 posted on 01/15/2004 11:02:51 AM PST by arm958
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