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Bush Gives Country Away
WND.com | 01-15-03 | Farah, Joseph

Posted on 01/15/2004 9:49:14 AM PST by Theodore R.

Bush gives country away

Posted: January 15, 2004 1:00 a.m. Eastern

© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

President Bush's plan to legalize 8 million to 12 million illegal aliens – maybe considerably more – is one of the most irresponsible, dangerous, reckless proposals to come out of Washington in my lifetime.

And that's saying a lot.

In my lifetime, I have witnessed:

wage-and-price controls imposed by Richard Nixon;

the greatest expansion of unconstitutional, immoral wealth-transfer programs in the history of our country;

the use of the Internal Revenue Service by President Clinton to harass and intimidate political adversaries;

the sacrifice of more than 50,000 U.S. servicemen in a war they would not be allowed to win;

the shredding of the Constitution in a thousand ways to bring us to the point at which politicians no longer even question the limits of the federal government;

the transfer by President Clinton of sensitive technology with military applications to a budding superpower for campaign cash;

the demoralization and emasculation of the country under President Carter;

I watched all this and more in nearly a half-century of life. But, honestly, President Bush's proposal to legalize untold millions of illegal aliens is potentially worse than any of these blunders, any of these mistakes, any of these abuses.

Why?

First, because it is immoral. Bush claims this is the "compassionate" thing to do. But he is misusing the term "compassion" the same way do those who would most like to unseat him from power. There is nothing compassionate about inflicting pain on others, in hurting the country, while accepting none of the responsibility, nor pain, nor sacrifice yourself. This move will not materially affect George W. Bush's life. But it will impact those competing for jobs at the lower end of the economic ladder. It will impact those who live in crime-plagued areas of the country and who don't have Secret Service protection. It will impact those who chose to obey the laws rather than flout them as their first act in America.

Second, it is unconstitutional. The federal government has few and limited areas of responsibility in our republican system of government. Among those clearly defined areas are the defense of the nation and the defense of our borders. This act is a reprehensible betrayal of the president's oath of office to uphold the law and execute it.

Third, it is bad policy. Even the simple act of proposing this notion encourages more illegal immigration into our country. More foreigners will want to get in on the action. It sends a horrible signal that America doesn't really believe in enforcing its laws. It promotes chaos at our borders and crime in our streets.

Fourth, it risks national security. Presumably, there was a reason this president placed the Immigration and Naturalization Service under the Department of Homeland Defense. The American people assume it was because he finally recognized that out-of-control immigration is a real threat – especially at a time when terrorists are trying desperately to kill and maim as many of us as possible.

It's not strong enough to call Bush's proposal "irresponsible." It is borderline seditious. And there is a widespread perception he is making this move because he believes there is personal political gain in it.

That is hardly "compassion," Mr. President. That is the worst kind of cynicism. That is the worst kind of selfishness. That is the worst kind of example a leader could set for the nation.

Shame on Bush. Shame on his party for standing by quietly as he sets out to destroy the fabric of our nation. Shame on the opposition for suggesting his move doesn't go far enough. Shame on all Americans who lie down and accept this outrage from Washington.


TOPICS: Editorial; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; amen; carter; clinton; compassion; compassionless; deathofmiddleclass; farah; ghwb; goodbyeconstitution; hellonewworldorder; ilegalaliens; immigrantlist; immigration; nixon; sedition; shame
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1 posted on 01/15/2004 9:49:15 AM PST by Theodore R.
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To: Theodore R.
Funny Joe didn't mention Reagan's amnesty.

Everything he says about Bush applies equally well to Reagan.

I guess that's why he avoided mentioning it.
2 posted on 01/15/2004 9:51:58 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Drug prohibition laws help fund terrorism.)
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To: Theodore R.
But, honestly, President Bush's proposal to legalize untold millions of illegal aliens is potentially worse than any of these blunders, any of these mistakes, any of these abuses.

Not more dangerous than.... the transfer by President Clinton of sensitive technology with military applications to a budding superpower for campaign cash;

But mostly I agree with you.

3 posted on 01/15/2004 9:54:28 AM PST by The UnVeiled Lady
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To: Theodore R.
Joseph Farah sounds like he's running for the Dem presidential nomination here. Lots of sound and fury, but no substance. He spends the entire article ranting against the President's plan without making any suggestion at all about an alternative.
4 posted on 01/15/2004 9:54:58 AM PST by RebelBanker (Deo Vindice)
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To: Theodore R.
WorldNetDaily.com? What the fonk is that?

Oh... wait a second... are they the ones that have that little 13-year-old kid that lectures everyone about adult issues?

Funniest article I've ever read came from WND.com.

5 posted on 01/15/2004 9:55:13 AM PST by Texas_Dawg
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To: Theodore R.
Thanks for posting.............

Farah, as usual, hits the nail on the head.

AMERICANS FIRST
6 posted on 01/15/2004 9:55:58 AM PST by WhiteGuy (Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...)
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To: Theodore R.
Farah is on target, and he doesn't even dwell on the most radical part of the program, the part that would allow massive new immigration (with no numerical limits) for all jobs (including formerly high-paying ones) Americans are unwilling to do at minimum wage or below-market wages. This will drive down American wages, create many more foreign enclaves in our country, and add fuel to the fires of multiculturalism and political correctness.

Farah is also on target about the other outrage: the willingness of some so-called conservatives to find excuses for what Bush has done.

7 posted on 01/15/2004 9:56:32 AM PST by Thorin
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To: Theodore R.
President Bush's plan to legalize 8 million to 12 million illegal aliens – maybe considerably more

When has Bush ever said he would do this?

8 posted on 01/15/2004 9:57:24 AM PST by Modernman (Providence protects idiots, drunkards, children and the United States of America- Otto von Bismarck)
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To: Theodore R.
Yawn... Another whiner with nothing to contribute toward resolving our illegal alien problem. Too bad.
9 posted on 01/15/2004 10:00:46 AM PST by TheDon (Have a Happy New Year!)
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To: RebelBanker; TheDon
"He [Farah] spends the entire article ranting against the President's plan without making any suggestion at all about an alternative."

Just for starters, how about a systematic deportation of ALL said illegal invaders, a systemic registry, seriously enforcing the borders, and heavily penalizing employers who hire illegal invaders?

Or is this too complicated and scary a proposition for you?

11 posted on 01/15/2004 10:10:32 AM PST by F16Fighter
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To: Theodore R.
Joe Farah is right.

The good news is, a majority of Americans adamantly oppose giving legal status to illegal aliens and want the borders sealed shut. In addition, American's are opposed to increasing legal immigration too. These are the key elements in PresBush's immigration proposal he outlined last week and these proposals are not in the mainstream.

In this age of terrorism and in this time of war, supporting amnesty and open borders only damages our national security interests. These efforts are counterproductive to the integrity of our society and to the well being of all American's. It's crystal clear, the pro-amnesty/open borders contingent have no respect for existing US law and no respect for US sovereignty.

12 posted on 01/15/2004 10:10:44 AM PST by Reagan Man (The few, the proud, the conservatives.)
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To: Theodore R.
Why no complaint about 8 years of open borders under Clinton?

Clinton let them in. Now Bush has to fix the problem. I think he's making the best of a bad situation.

13 posted on 01/15/2004 10:17:26 AM PST by AZLiberty (George Bush hunts terrrorists. Hillary pardons them.)
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To: AZLiberty
If Bush wants to solve the problem, why didn't he came up with a proposal to protect our borders? Why did he referred to illegal aliens as "undocumented," just the way NPR and the New York Times do? Why did he not say one bad word about illegals, gushing instead about how wonderful they are?
14 posted on 01/15/2004 10:25:48 AM PST by Thorin
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To: Theodore R.
Ensign favors end to all limits on campaign spending-Campaign Finance Reform thread-day 36

15 posted on 01/15/2004 10:32:01 AM PST by The_Eaglet (Michael Peroutka for President)
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To: Theodore R.
What chance does this REALLY have of happening anyway? Any thoughts?
16 posted on 01/15/2004 10:35:16 AM PST by luckymom (Wesley Clark thinks abortion should be legal until birth. Pass it on.)
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To: Thorin
If Bush wants to solve the problem, why didn't he came up with a proposal to protect our borders? Why did he referred to illegal aliens as "undocumented," just the way NPR and the New York Times do? Why did he not say one bad word about illegals, gushing instead about how wonderful they are?

Tell me how you are going to deport 8 million people? JMO, but it seems you have been looking through some old gestapo manuals as your alternative.

You can count me out.

17 posted on 01/15/2004 10:36:47 AM PST by Dane
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To: Reagan Man
the pro-amnesty/open borders contingent have no respect for existing US law and no respect for US sovereignty

I guess you could put Ronald Reagan in that contingent when he signed full amnesty.

Bush isn't proposing amnesty.

18 posted on 01/15/2004 10:38:44 AM PST by Dane
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To: Baynative
1,2,3...altogether now - BORDERS, LANGUAGE, CULTURE!

And selling his books and hanging up on callers.

19 posted on 01/15/2004 10:40:12 AM PST by Dane
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To: F16Fighter
...how about a systematic deportation of ALL said illegal invaders...

Any politician who even suggested that would never be elected dogcatcher again.

Please think about what it would take to round up and deport 8 to 12 million people - men, women and children. Then think about how that would look on every TV set in the world (with appropriate "compassionate" liberal commentary).

Not exactly a formula for future electoral success.

20 posted on 01/15/2004 10:42:06 AM PST by RebelBanker (Deo Vindice)
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21 posted on 01/15/2004 10:44:33 AM PST by gubamyster
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To: RebelBanker
Any politician who even suggested that would never be elected dogcatcher again.

Given that a healthy majority of the electorate supports precisely that policy, your assertion is patently false.

22 posted on 01/15/2004 10:49:18 AM PST by Carry_Okie (If ignorance is strength, we're in a world of hurt.)
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To: RebelBanker
Not exactly a formula for future electoral success.

Bread and circuses works much better. For a while.


23 posted on 01/15/2004 10:49:58 AM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: RebelBanker
Any politician who even suggested that would never be elected dogcatcher again.

Nah. They'd just die in a *tragic campaign tour plane crash*.

-archy-/-

24 posted on 01/15/2004 10:51:17 AM PST by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: archy
Wow, according to your chart, FDR was the greatest conservative President ever. Thanks.
25 posted on 01/15/2004 10:51:50 AM PST by Texas_Dawg
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To: Carry_Okie
Again: Please think about what it would take to round up and deport 8 to 12 million people - men, women and children. Then think about how that would look on every TV set in the world (with appropriate "compassionate" liberal commentary).
26 posted on 01/15/2004 10:52:02 AM PST by RebelBanker (Deo Vindice)
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To: Dane
I guess you could put Ronald Reagan in that contingent when he signed full amnesty.

Reagan at least admitted that it was a mistake.

Bush isn't proposing amnesty.

In all but name he is. There is no enforcement mechanism in his proposal to repatriate blue card holders at the end of their stay. These are people who entered illegally and stayed for years. They have no reason to leave and therefore no motive to abide by a law without a means of enforcement.

They won't vote Republican either.

27 posted on 01/15/2004 10:52:30 AM PST by Carry_Okie (If ignorance is strength, we're in a world of hurt.)
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To: RebelBanker
"Any politician who even suggested that [deporting illegal invaders] would never be elected dogcatcher again."

So you're saying the President should follow the lead of Democratic polls before considering whether he should enforce sovereign American law on behalf of the American people?

"Please think about what it would take to round up and deport 8 to 12 million people - men, women and children. Then think about how that would look on every TV set in the world (with appropriate "compassionate" liberal commentary)."

As opposed to all the conservative "commentary" pointing out the President's pandering, hypocracy, and refusal to put 'Principle over Party'?

28 posted on 01/15/2004 10:52:51 AM PST by F16Fighter
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
"Funny Joe didn't mention Reagan's amnesty."

Reagan at least had the excuse of no historical example from which to draw conclusions.

What's your excuse?
29 posted on 01/15/2004 10:52:53 AM PST by Tauzero (There is no lettuce shortage in Australia)
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To: RebelBanker
Maybe the folks who advocate this think that they could do some sort of Nacht und Nebel effort.
30 posted on 01/15/2004 10:53:21 AM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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To: RebelBanker
"without making any suggestion at all about an alternative"

So?
31 posted on 01/15/2004 10:54:15 AM PST by Tauzero (There is no lettuce shortage in Australia)
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To: archy
Hey archy, your graph is wacky. What about the 6 million people in the armed forces during World War II(42-45). Sheesh what a crock.
32 posted on 01/15/2004 10:54:21 AM PST by Dane
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To: RebelBanker
Please think about what it would take to round up and deport 8 to 12 million people - men, women and children. Then think about how that would look on every TV set in the world (with appropriate "compassionate" liberal commentary).

We don't have to forcibly deport them all. First, institute a guest worker program that makes work permits in the US only available at an embassy or consulate within the country of origin. Second, start enforcing existing statutes penalizing businesses that hire these people not possessing the permits.

They'll leave on their own, in droves.

There are few among us who oppose a guest worker program or a rational rate of legal immigration. Those among you who mischaracterize our position in order to have a defensible position are out of line.

33 posted on 01/15/2004 10:57:17 AM PST by Carry_Okie (There are people in power who are truly gutless.)
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To: Poohbah
"Maybe the folks who advocate this think that they could do some sort of Nacht und Nebel effort."

I hadn't figured you would surrender so easily, Poob.

34 posted on 01/15/2004 10:58:25 AM PST by F16Fighter
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To: Texas_Dawg
Oh... wait a second... are they the ones that have that little 13-year-old kid that lectures everyone about adult issues?

You are attacking Kyle?

Anyway, he is 14 now.

35 posted on 01/15/2004 11:00:33 AM PST by carenot (Proud member of The Flying Skillet Brigade)
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To: Carry_Okie
They'll leave on their own, in droves

Really, they will leave on their own.

Huh, are you going to have the IRS have new powers and manpower to look over millions of businesses.

36 posted on 01/15/2004 11:00:37 AM PST by Dane
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To: Dane
In 1954, President Eisenhower deported 1.4 million illegal aliens. Was Ike secretly an admirer of the gestapo?

We need to enforce our immigration laws, not have a President who apologizes--as Bush has done--because they are are not "humane."

37 posted on 01/15/2004 11:01:45 AM PST by Thorin
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To: Carry_Okie
There is no enforcement mechanism in his proposal to repatriate blue card holders at the end of their stay

It is a proposal. It is up to Congress to figure out the specifics. This isn't an Executive Order you know.

38 posted on 01/15/2004 11:02:25 AM PST by Dane
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To: Texas_Dawg; Kwilliams
Makes you feel important picking on a 13 yr old kid, who is now 15? Haven't outgrown your bully mentality? This kid shows more class and intelligence than you have
39 posted on 01/15/2004 11:02:46 AM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: Thorin
Farah is also on target about the other outrage: the willingness of some so-called conservatives to find excuses for what Bush has done.

That's why I just cancelled my subscription to the Wall Street Journal. Their editorials support this outrage. Anyone who puts money or political opportunity before country deserves contempt.

40 posted on 01/15/2004 11:02:51 AM PST by arm958
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To: Thorin
In 1954, President Eisenhower deported 1.4 million illegal aliens. Was Ike secretly an admirer of the gestapo?

Well let's do the math, we appx. have 6 times that number now. Also can you please post a link on how Eisenhower did it.

41 posted on 01/15/2004 11:04:04 AM PST by Dane
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To: Modernman
When has Bush ever said he would do this?

Just the other day. :)

42 posted on 01/15/2004 11:04:32 AM PST by carenot (Proud member of The Flying Skillet Brigade)
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43 posted on 01/15/2004 11:04:56 AM PST by JustPiper (Register Independent and Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: Miss Marple; Cultural Jihad; Howlin
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44 posted on 01/15/2004 11:05:10 AM PST by Allan
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To: Carry_Okie
We don't have to forcibly deport them all. First, institute a guest worker program that makes work permits in the US only available at an embassy or consulate within the country of origin.

Unfortunately, they are not in their native countries, they are here. Any workable solution must take that into account.

There are few among us who oppose a guest worker program or a rational rate of legal immigration. Those among you who mischaracterize our position in order to have a defensible position are out of line.

If I may respectfully disagree, I have seen a lot of oppostion to guest worker programs of any type. I beg your pardon if I did not accurately reflect your position, but I was responding to a "deport 'em all and wall up the borders" post.

45 posted on 01/15/2004 11:05:26 AM PST by RebelBanker (Deo Vindice)
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To: F16Fighter
You have proven yourself a better commentator than Farah. For that I commend you! You have provided an alternative to the President's plan.

Remember that it is only because President Bush took the initiative on this issue that Congress will now attempt to seriously address it. A national dialogue on this issue has begun. It is long overdue. What form the solution will take has yet to be decided. Some where between open borders and amnesty, and closed borders and mass round ups and deportations, various solutions exists.
46 posted on 01/15/2004 11:06:33 AM PST by TheDon (Have a Happy New Year!)
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To: JustPiper
The kid just needs to get to college, join a frat, and get hazed for a semester. Then he'll be perfectly well-adjusted.
47 posted on 01/15/2004 11:08:10 AM PST by Texas_Dawg
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To: carenot
I'm not attacking him. He just needs a beer and a good hazing. Did he go to high school for a semester just so he could talk about how much better he is than everyone there afterwards? Sounds to me like the kid got too many wedgies, didn't make the football team, and dropped out because he couldn't handle it.
48 posted on 01/15/2004 11:10:54 AM PST by Texas_Dawg
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To: Dane
Tell me how you are going to deport 8 million people? JMO, but it seems you have been looking through some old gestapo manuals as your alternative.

Is that any kind of a thing to say about John Ashcroft?

25% of Pakistani Illegal Aliens Deported Themselves since 2001 - Facts against the Bush Amnesty


49 posted on 01/15/2004 11:11:21 AM PST by Sabertooth (Pakistani Illegal Aliens Deport Themselves - http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1058591/posts)
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To: Sabertooth
Yep 25% left after 9/11, but there is a difference between an Islamic Pakistani and a Catholic Mexican.
50 posted on 01/15/2004 11:13:35 AM PST by Dane
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