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Bush Looks at New Health Care Initiative, Advisers Say
NY Times ^ | January 17, 2004 | ELISABETH BUMILLER and SHERYL GAY STOLBERG

Posted on 01/17/2004 4:43:41 AM PST by dread78645

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To: FormerACLUmember
Will he pander shamelessly or will he lead with courage? Unknown at this point.

Quite well known, actually. The answer is....pander, though he may feel a bit of shame. Who knows?

21 posted on 01/17/2004 5:42:37 AM PST by RJCogburn ("Hooray for the man from Texas!"........Mattie Ross of near Dardenelle in Yell County)
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To: FormerACLUmember
Will he pander shamelessly or will he lead with courage?

Have you been asleep? He's already outspent the greatest socialist presidents in American history. The great creator of massive bureaucracies.

What does this man stand for? Does anyone know?

There is no courage in this socialist plundering fool, he stands for nothing. Except getting himself re-elected by looting our treasury and spending OUR CHILDRENS money. The guy is completely out of control and irresponsible.

He covets. GWB the coveter, GWB the plunderer.

22 posted on 01/17/2004 5:42:39 AM PST by AAABEST
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To: dread78645
"The American people have a right to ask, `Mr. President, how do you intend to make health care more affordable, and more available?' " Mr. Daschle, of South Dakota, said in a speech."

Mr Daschle AND Mr Bush need to understand that the availability and affordability of health care are NOT functions of the U.S. Federal Government.

23 posted on 01/17/2004 5:43:43 AM PST by WhiteGuy (Congress shall make no law... abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press...)
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To: Kevin Curry
No I meant did SHE write it. Is she really compiling a list so she can hunt people down?

I know she gets goofy at times, but I don't think she's insane.
24 posted on 01/17/2004 5:45:00 AM PST by AAABEST
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To: Kevin Curry; Howlin
I know you're compiling a list of the names of FReepers critical of Bush's liberal Democrat agenda so you can "hunt them down one by one" if Bush ends up in exile at his Crawford ranch next year. Here's a few more names for your list.

Howlin, DON'T FORGET to put my name on the list.

I would hate to have people think I was a liberal.

25 posted on 01/17/2004 5:45:32 AM PST by Lazamataz (New York City has always been, and always will be, America's switchblade.)
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To: dread78645
</shaking head in disgust>
26 posted on 01/17/2004 5:45:53 AM PST by DoctorMichael (Thats my story, and I'm sticking to it.)
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To: RJCogburn
'where else they gonna go?'

That may depend on what's playing on TV. GW might not be worth the effort of reaching for the remote, or pulling a lever.
27 posted on 01/17/2004 5:46:40 AM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: AAABEST
What does this man stand for? Does anyone know?

I do.


28 posted on 01/17/2004 5:47:52 AM PST by Lazamataz (New York City has always been, and always will be, America's switchblade.)
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To: Lazamataz
That list is waaaaay too short.
29 posted on 01/17/2004 5:49:22 AM PST by RJCogburn ("Hooray for the man from Texas!"........Mattie Ross of near Dardenelle in Yell County)
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To: dread78645
OK, maybe I'm blind, but what new proposal? The only thing in this NY Times article that even mentions anything specifically is this line:

Mr. Bush has already proposed an $89 billion, 10-year package of tax credits for the uninsured, which is many times less than the health plans of the Democrats.

I think I'll wait and see want is actually proposed before forming an opinion on it.

30 posted on 01/17/2004 5:49:29 AM PST by PogySailor
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To: ARCADIA
You missed the author. I wrote that post you were responding to.

Might I suggest more rifle-range time?

31 posted on 01/17/2004 5:49:54 AM PST by Lazamataz (New York City has always been, and always will be, America's switchblade.)
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To: RJCogburn
That list is waaaaay too short.

Please, be my guest. Joint efforts are always the best.

32 posted on 01/17/2004 5:50:45 AM PST by Lazamataz (New York City has always been, and always will be, America's switchblade.)
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To: PogySailor
I think I'll wait and see want is actually proposed before forming an opinion on it.

That's no fun!
33 posted on 01/17/2004 5:50:57 AM PST by GodBlessRonaldReagan (where is Count Petofi when we need him most?)
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To: Lazamataz
Oh yeah, that's right, and all of these great conservative ideals as well:

Handcuffing Israel here and here

Waffling on the UN

Tax Breaks for Envirals

Favoring land grabs

Socializing "Terror" Insurance

Tax breaks to aid envirals

New Multi-billion dollar aid "agency"

NA Fingerprinting

Re-Authorizing Assault Weapons Ban

Feinstein and Schumer Welcome President Bush's Support of Assault Weapons Ban

Applauding racist affirmative action SC decision

Creation of 175,00 bureaucrat Homeland Security Dept
Here.

Airport Security Ministry
Here.

Freedom Corps:
Here.

Signing CFR
Here.


No guns in Cockpit: (Until he was forced to reconsider)
Here.

Patriot Act
Here.

Ted Olson Arguing restraining order = gun confiscation.
Here.

Citizen Spy Network
Here.

Military Police Force
Here.

Farm Bill
Here.

300 billion on health care:
Here.

19.2 billion on WOD
Here.

50% increase in foriegn aid.
Here.

Downpayment for minority homebuyers
Here.

Food Stamps for Illegals
Here.

Mexican "Fast Lane".
Here.

supporting Riorden the RINO:
Here.

Steel Tariffs
Here.

Safe Neighborhoods Program
Here. page=19#19

Global Warming flip-flop
Here.

Extending Unemployment
Here.

Sending Treasury Secretary O'Neill to Africa with Bono.
Here.

FBI Director Mueller Honoring American and Jew Haters.
Here.

500 Million for AIDS in Africa
Here.

Tax Cuts for Enviro and Animal Rights Nazis
Here.

bill extending benefits to homosexual couples
Here.

34 posted on 01/17/2004 5:52:55 AM PST by AAABEST
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To: AAABEST; RJCogburn
You are probably correct, but I can always hope.
35 posted on 01/17/2004 5:52:59 AM PST by FormerACLUmember
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To: PogySailor
I think I'll wait and see want is actually proposed before forming an opinion on it.

Does it really matter what he actually proposes? We lose ground just by having him include the topic on his policy agenda. The way to reduce medical costs is to reform and limit torts, and reduce the monopolistic powers of the AMA. Throwing federal tax dollars at it, or mandating additional insurance, would only make it worse. You drive the price down by killing the demand, and you kill the demand by choking off the cash flow.
36 posted on 01/17/2004 5:58:42 AM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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To: Lazamataz
Vote buying for farm giveaways.

Vote buying for teaching people how to get married.

Big government...enlarging at a rate not seen since LBJ.

Huge bills to be paid for by my unborn grandchildren.



37 posted on 01/17/2004 5:59:49 AM PST by RJCogburn ("Hooray for the man from Texas!"........Mattie Ross of near Dardenelle in Yell County)
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To: FormerACLUmember
Bush is a consummate politician who is sewing up votes every way he can. Will he pander shamelessly or will he lead with courage? Unknown at this point. Bush could go either way.

You can't be serious with that question. All the man has done is pander to every socialist cause out there. He's a NWO globalist, just like his father. America means nothing to the man.

38 posted on 01/17/2004 5:59:57 AM PST by steve50 ("There is Tranquility in Ignorance, but Servitude is its Partner.")
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To: dread78645
"President Bush is expected to propose a health care initiative in his State of the Union address to help the uninsured and the underinsured..."

Ugh.... *gag* *retch* *puke*

Hey W, give it a rest already. The f'kn well has run dry.

39 posted on 01/17/2004 6:00:02 AM PST by IoCaster ("That to live by one man's will became the cause of all men's misery." - Richard Hooker)
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To: IoCaster
I wouldn't be surprised if GW invites Hilary to be his VP for the 2004 ticket.
40 posted on 01/17/2004 6:04:18 AM PST by ARCADIA (Abuse of power comes as no surprise)
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