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'04 Election Could Be 2000 Redux
CBS ^ | 1/17/04

Posted on 1/17/2004, 11:58:08 PM by 11th Earl of Mar

'04 Election Could Be 2000 Redux

Jan. 17, 2003


If the presidential election was held today, 43% of voters say they would re-elect President Bush, while 45% say they would vote Democrat. (Photo: AP)



Much of this sentiment seems already locked in place, suggesting the coming year could see a tight struggle for undecided voters: 63% say their mind is already made up, while 36% say it is too soon to know for sure.


(CBS) A CBS News/New York Times poll shows that the election year is starting with a White House race that resembles the ultra-close and hotly-contested race of 2000.

If the November presidential election were held today, 45% of voters say they would vote for the Democratic candidate and 43% would vote to re-elect George W. Bush. Late last month, the President held a 49% to 40% edge. The standing today is similar to what it was in November 2003, before the capture of Saddam Hussein. The poll was conducted among a nationwide random sample of 1022 adults, interviewed by telephone between Jan. 12 and Jan. 15.

Much of this sentiment seems already locked in place, suggesting the coming year could see a tight struggle for undecided voters: 63% say their mind is already made up, while 36% say it is too soon to say for sure.

Partisans on both sides are sure of their choice, but Republicans even more so: 73% say their mind is made up, while 66% of Democrats say their decision is final right now.

Most voters – 55% - believe the President will ultimately win the 2004 election. Republican voters are especially optimistic: eight in ten think so. Fifty-two percent of Democrats think their candidate will win but more than one-third think Bush will.

However, it is still quite early. Even with the Democratic primaries and caucuses about to start, voters nationwide are still not tuning in to the race. Only slightly more than one in five is paying a lot of attention.

Even Democratic primary voters nationwide are not particularly tuned in yet. Just 26% of them are paying a lot of attention, and 43% are paying some – much the same levels found among all voters.

The Issues For 2004

The economy is still the top issue on the minds of voters during this presidential campaign, but significant numbers of voters want to hear about the war in Iraq, U.S. foreign policy, and health care.

Twenty-six percent of registered voters say they would like to hear the presidential candidates talk about the economy and jobs, 14% say the war in Iraq and foreign policy, followed by healthcare and Medicare at 11%.

Voters who mention the economy and jobs as the one issue they would like to hear the candidates discuss say they plan to vote for the Democratic challenger this fall over George W. Bush, by 47% to 36%.

Americans' views of the parties show the Democrats heading into the election year with a slight edge; the GOP's rating has slipped a bit since last month. And in a year that could see a pitched battle for control of Congress, voters are more likely to prefer divided government than a President and legislature of the same party.

Some of the disputes from four years ago still linger in the minds of many - 54% of voters believe President Bush legitimately won the 2000 contest, but 42% believe he did not. The partisan divide on this is perhaps not surprising: 88% of Republicans say the President won legitimately, while just 27% of Democrats agree.

That feeling may be having a motivating effect on Democrats: Nine out of 10 Democratic voters who believe that the President did not legitimately win say they plan to take part in one of their party's primaries or caucuses this year.

The Democrats and the 2004 Election

Former Vermont Governor Howard Dean is still the clear first choice of Democrats nationwide, named by 24% as their preferred nominee. Retired General Wesley Clark is at 12%, while Rep. Dick Gephardt is at 11%. Dean's support dipped a bit three weeks ago, after the capture of Saddam Hussein, but it has now returned to its mid-December levels.

Gephardt has climbed in Democratic support in this poll since December, while Senator Joe Lieberman's support has been cut in half, to 5%. More voters are choosing a candidate now as the first official vote looms: the number of undecided voters is at 15% today, down from 24% just a few weeks ago.

However, in a clear sign that the early contests in Iowa, New Hampshire and South Carolina could still dramatically re-shape the race, voters now backing a candidate are no more certain about their selections than they were three weeks ago -- 74% say their mind is still not made up.

The Nominee and the Issues

By a margin of more than two to one, Democratic primary voters still would favor a nominee who opposed the Iraq war rather than one who supported it. But many are less concerned about their nominee's stance on the war than they were a few weeks ago. In late December, not long after the capture of Saddam Hussein, one-third of voters said this stance did not matter. Today, 42% say it does not.

Primary voters are more intent on finding a nominee who would roll back most of the recent federal tax cuts. Only 24% say this would not matter to them. 44% say they would prefer that the nominee set out to do so, while 23% want the party's standard-bearer to keep most of the cuts in place.

Asked why they are supporting their chosen candidate, voters most often cited their candidate's personal qualities, style and honesty, followed by their stands on the issues, views on the economy, specifically, and belief in their viability in November.

Views of the Candidates

Dean, Clark, Gephardt, Kerry and Edwards are all viewed positively by Democratic primary voters.

But only Dean and the former Vice-Presidential nominee Joe Lieberman draw opinions – either positive or negative - from more than half of Democratic primary voters. Every other candidate is still either unknown to, or evokes no opinion from, more than half of voters.

Among all registered voters nationwide, Howard Dean – and most of the other Democratic candidates – do less well. Dean is viewed favorably by 21% of all voters, and unfavorably by 29%.

Of all the Democratic candidates, only John Kerry and Wesley Clark receive more favorable than unfavorable ratings among registered voters nationwide. Yet they – like all the candidates except Joe Lieberman – remain unknown to at least half of all voters.

Religion and the Campaign

Many of the Democratic candidates – and the President - have been discussing their views on religion and its role in their lives. These discussions divide the electorate. Fifty percent of all voters say such religious discussion should not be part of a campaign, while 46% say candidates should openly discuss it.

Democratic primary voters are less interested in hearing about candidates' religious views: 62% of them say it should not be part of the campaign.

So far most voters are satisfied with the way the candidates have broached the subject. Just 21% say one of the candidates has used religion improperly during the campaign, and 62% say no one has done so.

Of those voters who do think one of the candidates has used religion improperly in their campaign, 27% say it is George W. Bush who has done so, and 20% name Howard Dean as the one who has raised the issue improperly. Eleven percent cite the Reverend Al Sharpton.

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1 posted on 1/17/2004, 11:58:08 PM by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: 11th Earl of Mar

"The poll was conducted among a nationwide random sample of 1022 adults, interviewed by telephone between Jan. 12 and Jan. 15."

Just in case anyone missed it.

2 posted on 1/17/2004, 11:59:52 PM by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Good. I like it when we don't think it'll be a rout. Means we'll be serious about getting out the vote.
3 posted on 1/18/2004, 12:00:02 AM by pettifogger (I'll take Dean or Clark, I'm not choosy when it comes to unelectable meglomaniacs)
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
See BS.

4 posted on 1/18/2004, 12:00:24 AM by txrangerette
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
The poll was conducted among a nationwide random sample of 1022 adults, interviewed by telephone between Jan. 12 and Jan. 15.

Well, here is the catch - they're not even counting registered voters, never mind the more accurate likely voters.

5 posted on 1/18/2004, 12:00:55 AM by ClintonBeGone
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
A CBS News/New York Times poll

Repeat a lie often & loud enough..............

6 posted on 1/18/2004, 12:01:25 AM by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I will defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
random sample .............never will happen in politics !

Stay Safe Earl !

7 posted on 1/18/2004, 12:02:22 AM by Squantos (Cache for a rainy day !)
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Most voters – 55% - believe the President will ultimately win the 2004 election.

So I guess CBS can survey actual voters if they want to.

9 posted on 1/18/2004, 12:02:40 AM by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
The poll was conducted among a nationwide random sample of 1022 adults

Stopped reading right there. Not even registered voters (much less LIKELY voters). This is so out of line with all other reputable polls, it doesn't pass the laugh test.

Nonetheless, ANYTHING can happen between now and November, and complacency is something to guard against and I will work hard to make sure our President gets another 4.

10 posted on 1/18/2004, 12:02:57 AM by NYS_Eric
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To: wolf24
"In a related story, 3/4 of the 1022 individuals polled responded by saying that they'd be voting for Josiah Bartlett again this year for president."

LOL Some respondents asked why Martin Sheen isn't running this year.

11 posted on 1/18/2004, 12:04:16 AM by ClintonBeGone
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
As is obvious to any sentient being, this poll is a stinking pile of dog poo...timed to coincide with the kickoff of the campaign season in Iowa.

What a coincidence!

/sarcasm
12 posted on 1/18/2004, 12:04:31 AM by EternalVigilance
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To: JustPiper
I guess Jorge Bush and Karl Rove underestimated the backlash.
13 posted on 1/18/2004, 12:04:59 AM by HennepinPrisoner (I voted for GWB and I got Vicente Fox ...write-in Tancredo on March 9th.)
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To: Squantos
Random sample of Americans who answer telephone surveys because they don't have Caller ID.
14 posted on 1/18/2004, 12:05:34 AM by 11th Earl of Mar
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Whew! Good thing Bush won't be running against "Unknown Democrat"
15 posted on 1/18/2004, 12:05:54 AM by scottinoc
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
This poll has no more value than an AOL internet poll.
16 posted on 1/18/2004, 12:06:12 AM by dc-zoo
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
Well, I immediately hang up on anyone who calls me and is not a relative or friend. Guess I'll never get my opinions in a poll.
17 posted on 1/18/2004, 12:06:12 AM by Rightone
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To: Puppage
Repeat a lie often & loud enough..............

And it will be believed, regardless of its transparency.

18 posted on 1/18/2004, 12:06:40 AM by steveegg (You don't clean up 8 years of messes in 4, only to turn it over to Pigpen - W'04)
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To: 11th Earl of Mar
significant numbers of voters want to hear about the war in Iraq, U.S. foreign policy, and health care. Twenty-six percent of registered voters say they would like to hear the presidential candidates talk about the economy and jobs, 14% say the war in Iraq and foreign policy, followed by healthcare and Medicare at 11%.

Wow! That's way significant-not.

19 posted on 1/18/2004, 12:07:01 AM by Jeff Chandler (2004: The Neocons vs. The Neocoms)
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To: txrangerette
Shouldn't uh used that language to
make my point in #4, as I'm a lady
& NEVER use it.

Got carried away.

What UTTER tripe!
20 posted on 1/18/2004, 12:07:22 AM by txrangerette
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