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Could FReepmail be used by terrorist
eastforker ^ | 1/18/04 | Eastforker

Posted on 01/18/2004 3:12:44 AM PST by eastforker

This is a question for those that know. Do the security agencies have a way to monitor private replys on this and other forums on the internet? If not, we may have a security breach that has not been addressed.


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If anyone can sign up on a forum and use the private reply option without being detected or monitored, it could be a serious breach of security. Asking those that know for an answer.
1 posted on 01/18/2004 3:12:44 AM PST by eastforker
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To: eastforker
Groan... who has the "Not this sh.. again" image.
2 posted on 01/18/2004 3:16:30 AM PST by Jim Robinson (I don't belong to no organized political party. I'm a Republycan.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Sorry JR, just a question I thought that needed an answer.
3 posted on 01/18/2004 3:17:51 AM PST by eastforker (The color of justice is green,just ask Johny Cochran!)
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To: eastforker
Many diaper-headed terrorists have tried (and failed) to conduct their nefarious schemes using FReep mail. They simply don't know the codes...HAHAHAHA!!!!

You may now return to land of nod knowing all is well.

4 posted on 01/18/2004 3:20:09 AM PST by Deb (My Tag Skies to Gotham & Con-Fabs With Net Prexies)
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To: Jim Robinson
By the way, do you have an answer?
5 posted on 01/18/2004 3:20:15 AM PST by eastforker (The color of justice is green,just ask Johny Cochran!)
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To: eastforker
Well, you know that the intenet is nothing but a trojan horse don't you? Who invented it? Think about it. Connect the dots, man...
6 posted on 01/18/2004 3:21:01 AM PST by Jim Robinson (I don't belong to no organized political party. I'm a Republycan.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Thats true but when you have the option of deleting message sent, does it disappear, or is it only logged on the server?
7 posted on 01/18/2004 3:23:35 AM PST by eastforker (The color of justice is green,just ask Johny Cochran!)
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To: eastforker
BEWARE (of) THE BUILD-A-BURGERS!!!

8 posted on 01/18/2004 3:24:37 AM PST by Deb (My Tag Skies to Gotham & Con-Fabs With Net Prexies)
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To: eastforker
Just my two cents, but NSA heavily monitors e-mail generally, bulletin boards, and other traffic.

I think the private mail function here is not likely to be well monitored officially. There is so much net traffic that analysis is a black art of higher mathematics and computer programming.

The Free Republic private mail is readily accessible to anyone having access to the servers, of course. An official request could log all traffic through any node.

A very little spycraft makes interception fairly useless anyway. The scientific data files in particular could hide the Library of Congress within them with every few days of traffic. I guess the point I am making is that this cat in particular is pretty much out of the bag.
9 posted on 01/18/2004 3:25:07 AM PST by Iris7 ("Duty, Honor, Country". The first of these is Duty, and is known only through His Grace)
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To: eastforker
eastforker wrote:

"If anyone can sign up on a forum and use the private reply option without being detected or monitored, it could be a serious breach of security."

My reply:

We need to immediately open up all our email to whatever police agencies want to see them. Then we need to open up our homes and cars to whatever agencies need to see them.

Then, after they have unlimited access to our emails, homes, cars and private property, it will be time to give them access to our private conversations and thoughts.

We can record weekly Political Thought Diaries, in which we write down all non-correct political thinking, and record our private conversations with neighbors, friends and co-workers.

Great care should be taken that we record the non-correct Political Thinking of all our friends, family and co-workers, as the Party Political process needs the discipline of rigorous monitoring by politically correct Party Members.

We can also gather in huge tribunals, confessing our sins to The State, criticizing our impure thoughts and criticizing our neighbor's impure thoughts.

Hopefully by then The State will have erected Re-Education Camps where our thoughts and motives can be purified.

It is only THEN that we will have perfect Political Security!

Comrade Ed
10 posted on 01/18/2004 3:25:21 AM PST by Sir_Ed
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To: eastforker
Nothing ever really disappears unless you apply a very strong acid to the disk. And we try to avoid that.

Never, and I mean never post anything or send anything or read or view anything on the internet that will embarrass you or get you thrown in the slammer or make your wife or the IRS hate you.
11 posted on 01/18/2004 3:26:23 AM PST by Jim Robinson (I don't belong to no organized political party. I'm a Republycan.)
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To: eastforker
I have been threatened personally for information I posted on Freerepublic.
12 posted on 01/18/2004 3:28:32 AM PST by expatguy
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To: expatguy
You ought to see my inbox.
13 posted on 01/18/2004 3:29:13 AM PST by Jim Robinson (I don't belong to no organized political party. I'm a Republycan.)
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To: Deb

The Illuminati burger!

14 posted on 01/18/2004 3:29:28 AM PST by risk
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To: Sir_Ed
Sir_Ed, I did not mean it that way, rest assured. E-mail is already monitored, we know this. My question was if private replies had the same scrutiny .
15 posted on 01/18/2004 3:30:54 AM PST by eastforker (The color of justice is green,just ask Johny Cochran!)
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To: Deb
Just order at the Conspiracy Theory Drive Thru - for an extra sixty-nine cents, you can supersize it.
16 posted on 01/18/2004 3:31:59 AM PST by dirtboy (Howard Dean - all bike and no path)
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To: Jim Robinson
I understand, it is just a little disturbing when I have men in suits show up where I live and ask me not to post certain information here.
17 posted on 01/18/2004 3:32:39 AM PST by expatguy
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To: Jim Robinson; All
"Nothing ever really disappears ....... "

Come on folks.

It's as simple as those four words.

Nothing ever really disappears once you type it and hit the send button.

You can destroy your hard drive, and it is still "out there" someplace.

18 posted on 01/18/2004 3:34:45 AM PST by G.Mason (If they're Democrats - They're expendable)
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To: Sir_Ed
Yeah, never forget...it's the folks who are trying to protect you who are the real enemy. Grow up.
19 posted on 01/18/2004 3:35:23 AM PST by Deb (My Tag Skies to Gotham & Con-Fabs With Net Prexies)
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To: expatguy; Jim Robinson
You should have seen the post that were pulled here directly after 9/11/01.Amazing!!!!
20 posted on 01/18/2004 3:35:44 AM PST by eastforker (The color of justice is green,just ask Johny Cochran!)
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To: expatguy
Well, I've never had anyone actually come to my door. Now, there's this black van that parks across the street a lot. Has all black windows and a whole bunch of antennas and micro dish looking stuff. Nah... probably nothing to worry about.
21 posted on 01/18/2004 3:36:11 AM PST by Jim Robinson (I don't belong to no organized political party. I'm a Republycan.)
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To: risk
You forgot the nuts.
22 posted on 01/18/2004 3:36:25 AM PST by Deb (My Tag Skies to Gotham & Con-Fabs With Net Prexies)
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To: eastforker; sauropod
If you are trying to get the freepmail function taken away from us, I'm going to *hurt* you...
23 posted on 01/18/2004 3:37:09 AM PST by hellinahandcart
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To: Deb
I forgot to mention that's lizard flesh!
24 posted on 01/18/2004 3:37:25 AM PST by risk
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To: Jim Robinson

25 posted on 01/18/2004 3:40:28 AM PST by JoeSixPack1 (POW/MIA Bring 'em Home, Or Send us Back!! Semper Fi)
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To: eastforker
no disrespect but it's pretty much wide open. PGP makes decent encryption. so does Entrust (1024 bit)
26 posted on 01/18/2004 3:40:43 AM PST by Centurion2000 (Resolve to perform what you must; perform without fail that what you resolve.)
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To: Jim Robinson
Remember mindbenders report of some swarthy character running a car relocating business in Florida, a bin laden family member?
27 posted on 01/18/2004 3:40:46 AM PST by eastforker (The color of justice is green,just ask Johny Cochran!)
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To: dirtboy
Hope they don't forget to wrap it in double foil. Tri-lateral Transmitter Beams wilt the lettuce. Bastards!
28 posted on 01/18/2004 3:40:52 AM PST by Deb (My Tag Skies to Gotham & Con-Fabs With Net Prexies)
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To: eastforker
What is FReepmail? No one ever tells me anything.
29 posted on 01/18/2004 3:40:55 AM PST by Glenn (What were you thinking, Al?)
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To: Centurion2000
OK,but does it allow access to private replies that can be deleted?
30 posted on 01/18/2004 3:42:59 AM PST by eastforker (The color of justice is green,just ask Johny Cochran!)
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To: Jim Robinson; All
Actually I was not joking.

As a news source Freerepublic cannot be beat. Many stories have broken here.

There are a lot of Freepers scattered across the globe who "report" all that they see and hear and many times the information could be considered sensitive or of interest to national security.

It would be extreemly naive to think that intelligence agencies around the globe do not "make use" of Freerepublic as well.

31 posted on 01/18/2004 3:44:02 AM PST by expatguy
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To: Glenn
Where do you think "private reply" goes?
32 posted on 01/18/2004 3:45:40 AM PST by FreedomPoster (this space intentionally blank)
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To: Iris7; eastforker; Jim Robinson
A very little spycraft makes interception fairly useless anyway. The scientific data files in particular could hide the Library of Congress within them with every few days of traffic. I guess the point I am making is that this cat in particular is pretty much out of the bag.
The NSA and others was able to intercept radio and cable signals and, by dint of math and keen intellect, psych out the meaning of some of it. They used computers, back when hardly anyone else did--when IBM didn't think there was a market from more than a half a dozen of them.

Now that the communications traffic has exploded the way it has, I find it difficult to believe that sophisticated bad guys' email can even be detected. Things like Public Key Encryption are readily available which make a message look like a perfect hash almost as thoroughly as the Germans and Japanese thought they were doing--and people now routinely use that for legitimate business reasons, so you can't just take for granted that an encrypted message is an Al Qaeda message. And if you undertake heroic efforts to crack one message out of all that traffic, it probably turns out to be an honest citizen with a tinfoil hat on, just protecting his privacy.

Certainly it might be a serious problem--but unless you're willing to pull the plug on modern communications and turn in your computer to the government, it's pretty much a "them is the conditions that prevail" situation.


33 posted on 01/18/2004 3:48:05 AM PST by conservatism_IS_compassion (Belief in your own objectivity is the essence of subjectivity.)
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To: eastforker
If anyone can sign up on a forum and use the private reply option without being detected or monitored, it could be a serious breach of security.

That's not possible. They would get zotted, their 72 virgins would be instantly transformed into 38 flatulent Rottweilers, and their Internet access would be switched over to AOL at 300 baud forever.

34 posted on 01/18/2004 3:48:28 AM PST by Johnny_Cipher ("... now lessee, $60,000 divided one point three million ways equals ...")
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To: Glenn
I just hit private reply under your post and sent you a freepmail.Look up at the top where it says mail on your comments page.Click on.
35 posted on 01/18/2004 3:50:33 AM PST by MEG33 (We Got Him!)
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To: Glenn
I sent you mail ,hit reply and let me know if you received it.Everyone has to learn the ropes.I have yet to make my first post of an article or a vanity or a picture!
36 posted on 01/18/2004 3:55:56 AM PST by MEG33 (We Got Him!)
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To: Deb
"Yeah, never forget...it's the folks who are trying to protect you who are the real enemy."

Winston Smith had learned to love Big Brother...

Ed
37 posted on 01/18/2004 3:57:24 AM PST by Sir_Ed
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To: Iris7
Try to actually think about what you say. The NSA does not monitor emails "heavily" or otherwise. How could any agency possibly monitor millions and millions of emails a day? It's ridiculous. Certain key words and phrases are supposed to trigger a flag somewhere, in some system, but if it works like the usual government venture...you'll be safe from the jack-booted, G-men.

Geez! I wish the feds were as efficient as the tin-foilers thought. Maybe 3000 New Yorkers would be alive for the new year.

38 posted on 01/18/2004 3:58:10 AM PST by Deb (My Tag Skies to Gotham & Con-Fabs With Net Prexies)
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To: Deb
A sobering and affectionate thought
39 posted on 01/18/2004 4:00:57 AM PST by eastforker (The color of justice is green,just ask Johny Cochran!)
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To: Deb
The NSA does not monitor emails "heavily" or otherwise.

Overloading Eschelon

But enough about that! Let's talk about UFOs!


40 posted on 01/18/2004 4:02:38 AM PST by risk
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To: Deb
If only.God rest their souls.
41 posted on 01/18/2004 4:03:06 AM PST by MEG33 (We Got Him!)
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To: Johnny_Cipher
Okay, B9, O64, G78, I27, N56,...........

Now we have either leveled Area 51 or we have

BINGO.
42 posted on 01/18/2004 4:03:58 AM PST by auntdot
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To: auntdot
???????????????
43 posted on 01/18/2004 4:09:20 AM PST by eastforker (The color of justice is green,just ask Johny Cochran!)
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To: Sir_Ed
Blah, blah, blah. If you have your decoder ring and know the secret word of the day...no problemo.

Would you be safer in a farm house with 5 members of the Religion of Peace, or in your own house being monitored by John Ashcroft? Ask Daniel Pearl.

Oh, and give us a call when your rights are violated. We'll be waiting by the phone.

44 posted on 01/18/2004 4:09:36 AM PST by Deb (My Tag Skies to Gotham & Con-Fabs With Net Prexies)
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To: risk
You don't want to talk to me about UFO's!
45 posted on 01/18/2004 4:12:43 AM PST by eastforker (The color of justice is green,just ask Johny Cochran!)
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To: eastforker
No? How about crop circles then?


46 posted on 01/18/2004 4:16:48 AM PST by risk
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To: eastforker
Oh no, we may yet have a shred of privacy! Quick, somebody notify our All-Wise & Benevolent Police State Security Officers!
47 posted on 01/18/2004 4:17:40 AM PST by Commie Basher
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To: auntdot
Ringo.

Stutter.

Henhouse.

John has a long moustache.

52.

48 posted on 01/18/2004 4:19:34 AM PST by Johnny_Cipher ("... now lessee, $60,000 divided one point three million ways equals ...")
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To: risk
do a google on :huffman and cash, after that come and talk.
49 posted on 01/18/2004 4:24:13 AM PST by eastforker (The color of justice is green,just ask Johny Cochran!)
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To: All
Seriously speaking, one should always assume that whatever is sent or rec'd through a public broadcasting medium such as the i'net, a phone call, walkie-talkie, etc, can be monitored.

We adjust our behavior knowing that.

Is there secure public communication that does not require encryption available for our use? Yes there is....you start with two soup cans and some string....
50 posted on 01/18/2004 4:26:40 AM PST by baltodog (Ramen noodles for everyone!!!!)
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