Dick Morris' Mistake

FrontPageMagazine.com ^ | January 19, 2004 | Allan Wall

[Penny]

Well, I'll offer just one before I leave for work: Offer a one-year grace period for all illegal aliens to "pack it up" and return to their homelands where they can apply for citizenship. If any alien is discovered after the grace period to be living in our country, that alien will be deported immediately and barred permanently from applying for U.S. citizenship.

As one increasingly surrounded by illegal aliens (TEN of them live two houses from me and disrespect my property in ways in don't have time to list), I think my solution is but a second step. Sealing the border in cooperation with Fox sealing his side is the first; ditto the Canadian border. To do otherwise is to say that all murdered border patrol officers gave their lives in vain.

HOGWASH to those who would claim my plan is "physically" impossible. With will there is way.
Regards . . . Penny (Dallas)

[MissouriForBush]

It's a political move, for sure. It's called "more of the same."

I have been a lifelong Republican and I have done plenty of grunt work on Republican campaigns. But that has not blinded me to the fact that pandering to lawbreakers and their interest groups is sleazy, whether it comes from the Democrats OR the Republicans.

[MissouriForBush]

Check out www.fairus.org.

[Jabba the Nutt]

You know, one of the worst things about this amnesty proposal is that it gives truth to the lie that the GOP is a creature of Big Business.

Who benefits from cheap labor? Business. Who is the GOP looking out for? Business. So, millions of hard-working Americans get a push to vote for the socialist DemocRATs, because of this.

Republicans: The Stupid Party and we're cowards too.

[kittymyrib]

The media will crucify Republicans anyway. We should know that by now. And the media will not be able to push public opinion in favor of illegals. They tried that and failed miserably in CA. Has Karl Rove been asleep?

[mhking]

Morris is working for the Clintons again, who are paying him to give suicidal advice to the GOP.

Cha-ching! The truth shall set you free!

Just damn.

If you want on the list, FReepmail me. This IS a high-volume PING list...

[Miss Marple]

First of all, how are you going to round them all up? House to house searches and demands to see the papers of every dark-haired person who answers the door? How many people would you need to do that?

And then, what are you going to do? Deport them without due process? Put them in detention camps? Aside from the legalities of doing this, I imagine the cost would be staggering.

Then what...ship them on busses to the border and drop them off? You surely don't think that Mexico will allow busses with deportees across their border, do you?

Rounding them up and shipping them out is not practical, and if you can't see how the media would portray this as some Nazi-like activity you are naive. The hammering we would take would be intense and international in scope.

President Bush's proposal is the beginning of a carrot and stick approach. I think it could be improved, but at least it is an attempt to get things under control.

I am interested in the idea of giving them a year's grace period to leave, and then investigating employers, schools, and universities. That is more stringent than President Bush's proposal, but it is at least practical.

[yoe]

Allen Wall lives and works in Mexico; his letters and articles always give a clearer view of our problem with that country. What he says here is 99% correct. It is Dick Morris that opined that President Bush's proposals were mainly for votes - that is what Clinton would have done, but I don't think President Bush's motive was for votes but the Morris view has taken hold.

Immigration from south of the border is an enormous, complex problem that transcends vote getting. Mr. Morris feeds from whatever troth feeds him best.

As Senator Kyl said "If we are not enforcing current immigration laws, the question naturally arises: Why would we be any more likely to enforce new laws? ...... he is right on the money. We are NOT enforcing law in fact our law enforcement people are having their hands tied with federal red tape to keep from deporting the illegal; partly political correctness and partly lack of funds to deport these people. Try to get your local law enforcement, if they are involved in any way, to talk about the mess of deportation. It is an eye opener.

[LauraJean]

your right. I voted for Bush, I will vote for him in 2004 but right now my local newspaper is featuring a series on the new Mexican gangs and El Salvadorian gangs that are coming from California and moving into the Chicago suburbs. Right now the cops have been working to deport them. But what good is that if they gangbangers find it easy to come back?

[gathersnomoss]

I can see this televised travel commercial...Mexico, you will love our state of mind....Brought to you by the Mexico For 51st State Campaign and the Fox/Bush Coalition.

[lentulusgracchus]

I don't trust Morris .. what is the saying about leopards not changing their spots?

I don't, either. I know it's an ad hominem argument, but.....<drum roll>.......never trust a toe-sucker!

[Citizen Tom Paine]

I heard a retired immigration official talk, I beleive on Rush's show, that said, " The Democrats favored hispanic immigration because they viewed the immigrants as potential democratic voters, and the Republicans favored immigration because it provided cheap labor." This is a pretty tough nut to crack.

I further believe that we are not a nation if we cannot control our borders. IMHO

[jonno]

...and if you can't see how the media would portray this as some Nazi-like activity you are naive...

Agree with you 100%. Those that scream about GW "Hispandering" need to consider the above.

It is a fact that Hispanics are the up & coming "minority". Ship them all back across the border is not only unworkable, impractical, but political suicide.

I give GW an "A" for taking this head-on. The fact that it is politically unpopular with many in his own party shows him to be a true leader - one who LEADS - not someone driven by focus-groups with one finger always in the air.

Regards,

[em2vn]

How secure does the White House feel about the 04 elections if such a flawed immigration policy must be put forward to garner the Latino vote?
The coming election may be much closer than anyone outside of the White House imagines. If the President felt 04 was a lock he easily could have held off on this issue until after the election.
I wonder if the fact that brother Jeb's wife is a Latina could be effecting the President's viewpoint on the immigration issue.

[lentulusgracchus]

Those of you who don't like this PROPOSAL ( and it is not a fait accompli) should make the effort to propose changes to the President's proposal, both here and to members of Congress.

With all respect, what needs to be done is not opaque to anyone who has been reading these threads over the years. That is to a) stop illegal crossings, b) round up -- yes, round up -- the illegals in the country now, and c) hunt down and prosecute the employers who provided the vacuum that pulled the illegals into the country in the first place, by gundecking I-9's, accepting falsified work credentials, and so on -- in order to stop future employers from doing the same.

It is necessary to face the fact that deporting all illegals is physically and economically impossible, as well as no doubt destroying the Republican party for the next generation.

No, it isn't. We don't have to get them all in one week. But we need to start finding them now and sending them home, and in due course relief will become apparent.

The media would crucify us, and public opinion would be pushed to support the illegals.

That will happen anyway. It's time to find your courage and start working to implement the solution we have all known was the right one all along.

[yoe]

We're a capitalist society; America is all about having your own business; homes; cars; land etc. Who is it that provides the jobs? The employer; the big corporations, those enormous factories, these are the entities that provide the hard working American with jobs....and reasonable hourly wages are an integral part of running a business – for self – for a few owners or for the stock holders. The American laborer has become part and parcel to the belief that if you are warm and have two eye balls, you deserve a government fixed hourly wage, health care, time off for vacation and a new car along with retirement pay all with out ever obtaining an education.

The employer must make a profit of some sort or loose the business. This is the person who carries the insurance, the liability for every one in that business, does the book keeping for the IRS and stays on top of all the rules and regulations, pays the taxes; the salary and carries all the responsibility.

”Who benefits from cheap labor? Business. Who is the GOP looking out for? Business. So, millions of hard-working Americans get a push to vote for the socialist DemocRATs, because of this. If that is how you see it, it’s a shame....the Mexican illegal wants part of your world......................

[gaspar]

Reinstitute the Bracero program of the nineteen fifties that was killed off by Cesar Chavez. It offered no possibility of citizenship, but did offer work to Mexicans on a systematic basis.

[sarcasm]

The employer must make a profit of some sort or loose lose the business.

[Mo1]

This may sound like a stupid question .. but do Canadians come over the border to work here in the US?

[Ditter]

You wonder if Jeb Bush's wife being a Latina has any bearing on his immigration policy. I wonder if she is an immigrant herself or the child of an immigrant. Many hispanics have been here, at least in Texas, longer than the rest of us & consider themselves Texans not Mexicans.