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Anthrax Mailings: Connecting the Dots [to al-Qaeda]
PHXnews.com ^ | 18 Jan. 2004 | Ross E. Getman

Posted on 01/19/2004 11:00:30 PM PST by flamefront

[An extensive set of articles referred to lay out a definitive explanation on the source of the anthrax mailings.]

"Dad," he whispered. His Dad could barely hear him. "'I've been arrested, I'm being taken, I don't know where or why." Moazzam Begg was in the trunk of a car being taken away from his apartment in Islamabad. He had been picked up by Pakistan and US agents. The Britoner had come to Pakistan with his wife and children after the US strikes began in Afghanistan.  It was February 2002. Months later, he would confess to being involved with an Al Qaeda plot to disperse weaponized anthrax using a drone.  His name had been found on a money transfer in the one-room chemical bunker of Egyptian scientist Midhat Mursi at a camp in Afghanistan.

In early June 2003, a Central Intelligence Agency ("CIA") report publicly disclosed that the reason for Mohammed Atta's and Zacarias Moussaoui's inquiries into cropdusters was for the contemplated use in dispersing biological agents such as anthrax. An early September 2003 Newsweek article included a rumor by a Taliban source that at a meeting in April 2003 Bin Laden was planning an "unbelievable" biological attack, the plans for which had suffered a setback upon the arrest of Khalid Shaikh Mohammed ("KSM") the previous month in Rawalpindi, Pakistan. In November 2003, a report by a UN Panel of experts concluded that Al Qaeda is determined to use chemical and biological weapons and is restrained only by technical difficulties.    

In November 2003, it was widely reported that a potential terrorist plot had been thwarted in late 2002 after a London-based group tried to buy half a ton of saponin. Saponin enhances the transmission of molecules through biological cell membranes. When combined with a potent toxin, it can ease the absorption of the poison through the skin, experts say. Midhat Mursi had worked on a chemical additive to increase skin absorption.

The CIA reportedly has been quietly building a case that the anthrax mailings were an international plot. This is old news. It's just no longer bureaucratically impolite to openly contest the FBI's (former) theory about a lone, American scientist. Many people have argued that a US-based Al Qaeda operative is behind the earlier Fall 2001 anthrax mailings in the US, and that the mailings served as a threat and warning. This would follow the pattern of letters they sent 1997 to newspaper branches in Washington, D.C. and New York City, as well as symbolic targets. The letters bombs were sent in connection with the detention of those responsible for the earlier World Trade Center bombing in 1993. Handwritten notes and files on a laptop seized upon the capture of KSM, Al Qaeda's #3, included a feasible anthrax production plan using a spray dryer and addressed the recruitment of necessary expertise. What your morning paper did not tell you, however, was that the CIA seized a similar disc from Ayman Zawahiri's right-hand, Ahmed Salama Mabruk, 5 years earlier. The computer disk was confiscated from him during his arrest by the CIA in Azerbaijan and reportedly handed over to the Egyptian authorities. Mabruk, at the time, was the head of Jihad's military operations. There is a risk that observers underestimate the time that Al Qaeda has had to make progress in such recruitment and research and development. 

Some may still think that even in the final stages of the 9/11 plot, Zacarias Moussaoui was going to fly a 5th plane into the Capitol or White House. There is an e-mail by Moussaoui, however, dated July 31, 2001 indicating that he sought to take a crop dusting course that was to last up to 6 months. Moreover, in March 2003, Mohammed, reportedly said that Moussaoui was not going to be part of 9/11 but was to be part of a "second wave." Accused September 11 conspirator Zacarias Moussaoui told his trial judge that he had an al Qaeda mission that would have come after the terrorist attacks. KSM explained that his inquiries about crop dusters may have been related to the anthrax work being done by US-trained biochemist and Al Qaeda operative, Malaysian Yazid Sufaat. Al Qaeda's regional operative, Hambali, who was at a key January 2000 meeting and supervised Sufaat, has been captured. Hambali reportedly is cooperating. Zacarias Moussaoui, never the sharpest tool in the shed and thought by his superiors to be unreliable, has told the judge at his trial in a filing that he wants "anthrax for Jew sympathizer only."

Sufaat, according to both KSM and Hambali, did not have the virulent US Army Ames strain that would be used. That would require someone who had access to the strain. But if experience is any guide, nothing would stand in the way of Dr. Ayman Zawahiri's decade-long quest to weaponize and use anthrax against US targets that was described by one confidante to an Egyptian newspaper reporter. The islamist had been released from Egyptian prison and had known Zawahiri well for many years. Zawahiri was the leader of a faction of the Egyptian Islamic Jihad known as the Vanguards of Conquest. He was seeking to recreate Mohammed's taking of mecca by a small band through violent attacks on Egyptian leaders. By the mid-1990s, Zawahiri had determined that the group should focus on its struggle against the United States and hold off on further attacks against the Egyptian regime. A key question is how they acquired the anthrax strain first isolated by the Texas Veterinary Medical Diagnostic Lab in 1980. According to senior counterterrorism officials, both here and abroad, among the supporters of these militant islamists were people who blended into society and were available to act when another part of the network requested it.

A few days before Christmas 2003, after a renewed audiotape threat by Zawahiri of attacks, to include in the US homeland, the threat level was raised to orange or "high." According to some reports, Zawahiri is thought by intelligence to be Iran, on the border adjacent to Pakistan and Afghanistan. Wherever he is, authorities need to focus on the traceable connection between him and those he recruited.

First, Al Qaeda has had anthrax, the raw seed product in its unweaponized form, since at least 1997, when it was purchased by Bin Laden through the Moro Islamic Liberation Front ("Moro Front" or "MILF"). Zawahiri, Al Qaeda's #2, is head of Al Qaeda's biochemical program. The CIA has known of Zawahiri's plans to use anthrax for a half decade. The confidante and right-hand man of Dr. Ayman Zawahiri admitted that Zawahiri succeeded in obtaining anthrax and intended to use it against US targets. Another senior Al Qaeda member (a shura or policy-making council member no less) was working for the Egyptian intelligence services and he confirmed the report in a sworn lengthy confession. Even Zawahiri's attorney in 1999 said that Bin Laden and Zawahiri were likely to resort to the biological and chemical agents they possessed given the extradition pressure senior Al Qaeda leaders faced. A recently released islamist who had been a close associate of Zawahiri said that Zawahiri spent a decade and had made 15 separate attempts to recruit the necessary expertise to weaponize anthrax in Russia and the Middle East. The US Army recipe was not used, and obtaining the unprocessed Ames strain of anthrax used does not pose much of an obstacle or warrant the weight given it by some press accounts. There was lax control over the distribution of the Ames strain that was used, especially in light of the fact that transfers were not even required to be recorded prior to 1997. Significantly, the individual who isolated it nearly a quarter century ago (now retired), upon being contacted, does not report that he sent the only copy of the strain to Ft. Detrick.

Al Qaeda's anthrax production plans on Khalid Mohammed's computer did not evidence knowledge of advanced techniques in the most efficient biological weapons. At least according to the public comments by bioweaponeer experts William Patrick and Kenneth Alibek, under the optimal method, there is no electrostatic charge; in the case of the anthrax used in the mailings, there was an electrostatic charge. Although there was a dominance of single spores and a trillion spore concentration, there were clumps as large as 40 - 100 microns. (Spores must be no bigger than 5 microns to be inhalable.) As Kenneth Alibek, the former head of Russia's anthrax production program, explained on March 31, 2003 in response to a written question, "This anthrax wasn't sophisticated, didn't have coatings, had electric charge and many other things." Many point to the trillion spore concentration as extraordinary. It is far simpler, however, to achieve a trillion spore concentration in the production of a few grams than in industrial processing typical of a state sponsored lab. The "trillion spore" issue was at the heart of a lot of mistaken theories of the matter concluding that state sponsorship was necessarily indicated. The reported finding at Dugway undermines the argument of both the "bomb Iraq" crowd and the liberals focused on Dr. Steve Hatfill who object to US biodefense research because they view it as being useful for offensive purposes.  

USDA employee Johnelle Bryant first told us, in sensational detail, of Atta's inquiries about purchasing and retrofitting a cropduster. Khalid Mohammed then told interrogators that Zacarias Moussaoui's inquiries about crop dusting may have related to Yazid Sufaat's anthrax manufacturing plans. Although the details of the documents on Mohammed's computer may (or may not) point to possible difficulties in aerial dispersal, they are fully consistent with the product used in the anthrax mailings. Al Qaeda had both the means and opportunity.

US-trained Malaysian biochemist Yazid Sufaat met with 9/11 plotters and two hijackers in January 2000. Sufaat was a member of Al Qaeda and a member of Jemaah Islamiah ("JI"). JI has ties with the Moro Front. Sufaat used his company called Green Laboratory Medicine to buy items useful to Al Qaeda. (Green symbolizes "Islam" and Prophet Mohammed's holy war). Zacarias Moussaoui, who had a crop dusting manual when he was arrested, stayed at Sufaat's condominium in 2000 when he was trying to arrange for flight lessons in Malaysia. Yazid Sufaat provided Moussaoui with a letter indicating that he was a marketing representative for Infocus Technologies and allegedly provided him $35,000. The crop dusters were to be part of a "second wave."

After 9/11, Yazid Sufaat traveled to Afghanistan and Pakistan to work for the Taliban Medical Brigade and to continue his work with anthrax. As described in US News, a former reporter from the Kabul Times apparently actually met Sufaat, without realizing it, while traveling near Kabul in October 2001, perceiving him as Filipino. The fellow was carrying papers from Zawahiri and bragging about his ability to manipulate anthrax. Sufaat was arrested in December 2001 upon his return to Malaysia. Newsweek reported that a "second wave" involving biological attacks had been thwarted upon the arrest of Al Qaeda members who had been intended to provide logistical support.

Various doctors, both foreign and American, are associated with Al Qaeda leaders or operatives, to include the doctors Abdul Qadoos Khan, a bacteriologist from Rawalpindi and Aafia Siddiqui, PhD, from Karachi. Microbiologist Abdul Qadoos Khan was charged along with his son, Ahmed, for harboring the fugitives. As of March 28, 2003, he was in a hospital for a cardiac problem and had been granted "pre-arrest bail." Yet all you read about at the time was the arrest of the son Ahmed Abdul Qadoos, who receives a stipend from the UN for being officially low-IQ due to lead poisoning.

It was  Khalid Mohammed who told authorities about MIT-trained biologist Aafia Siddiqui, who at one time was thought to be traveling with a Florida "Atta level" pilot. All the Pakistani press reported that she was nabbed in Karachi after being spotted at the international airport on March 29. For the longest time, no US newspaper had yet reported that she was captured and instead stories continued to state that the FBI is seeking her for questioning. If the sources relied upon by these journalists did not even know (or would not reveal) that Aafia had been caught, why do these reporters think they know what's going on in the Amerithrax matter? Amerithrax is a confidential investigation. The Pakistan ISI and CIA rarely grant press interviews in connection with an ongoing manhunt. The CIA did not even allow the FBI access to KSM for 10 days after his arrest. As agent Van Harp, then head of the Amerithrax investigation said, the information coming from Khalid Mohammed is classified with the authorities releasing only certain limited information. According to the Pakistan reports, Aafia Siddiqui was spotted at the international airport and detained (after she was followed to a relative's house).  Some reports say she was coming from abroad, but the original report the others are all copying say she was coming from "upcountry." (Karachi is in the south). The reports say she is suspected of having been a member of Al Qaeda's "Chemical Wire Group." Perhaps something got lost in the translation, but the phrase "Chemical Wire Group" has appeared in all the english Pakistan and India papers.  

Officials have not publicly confirmed anything about the detention or interrogation.  There still is a very hot pursuit of the "Atta-level" Florida pilot that Siddiqui is thought to have known and been assisting.  He is said by one FBI agent to be "very, very, very" dangerous. The United States truly no longer has time for faulty analysis or politically-based preconceptions. In early June 2003, a CIA report concluded that the reason for Atta's and Zacarias Moussaoui's inquiries into cropdusters was in fact for the contemplated use in dispersing biological agents such as anthrax. It has long been known Osama Bin Laden was interested in using cropdusters to disperse biological agents (since the testimony of millennium bomber Ahmed Ressam).

The hijacker Ahmed Alhaznawi appears to have contracted cutaneous anthrax in Afghanistan. It's reasonable to credit his statement that he got the lesion after bumping into a suitcase he was carrying at a camp in Afghanistan. The lesion is further evidence of Al Qaeda's anthrax production program in Afghanistan.

One potential lead concerned a Fort Lee New Jersey $100,000 processor possibly of a type that could have been used to weaponize the anthrax. The processor was paid for in cash after a check-kiting scheme. The processor was delivered to a business front in Ft. Lee at 215 Main St. The address was 1 mile from pilot Nawaf al-Hazmi at 96 Linwood Plaza, one of the two hijackers who had attended the January 2000 meeting with anthrax technician Yazid Sufaat. Nawaf Al-hamzi and Khalid Almidhar stayed at Yazid Sufaat's condominium outside Kuala Lumpur. It eventually was determined that these two were on a level comparable to Atta for planning purposes.

The present evidence relating to Atta's travel to Prague does not warrant a conclusion that Al Qaeda obtained the Ames strain from Iraq. Iraq, however, remains a possible source of the Ames. Former Russian bioweaponeer Ken Alibek has said that a key Russian scientist assisted Iraq and that Russia had the Ames strain. Zawahiri traveled to Baghdad in 1998 with an entourage to attend the birthday party of Saddam's son. The papers found at headquarters of the Mukhabarat, Iraq's secret police, show that an entourage from Al Qaeda group was sent to the Iraqi capital in March 1998 from Sudan. According to at least some reports, Bin Laden rejected the suggestion of a closer alliance -- preferring to pursue his own concept of jihad. Two top Iraqi scientists, code named Charlie and Alpha, are helping the coalition to learn more about Iraqi's anthrax program, according to Dr. David Kay, head of the Iraq survey group in charge of the hunt for WMD. He has said that the Iraqis made surprising innovations in the milling and drying processes needed to weaponize anthrax.

Second, the media coverage has been seriously confused on the issue of motive and the reason Senators Daschle and Leahy would have been targeted -- tending to simplistically view them as "liberals." Zawahiri likely targeted Senators Daschle and Leahy to receive anthrax letters, in addition to various media outlets, because of the appropriations made pursuant to the "Leahy Law" to military and security forces. That money has prevented the militant islamists from achieving their goals. Al Qaeda members and sympathizers feel that the FBI's involvement in muslim countries like Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, Indonesia, and the Philippines interferes with the sovereignty of those countries. Indeed, the "Leahy Law" had one of its most well-known applications in Indonesia. Senator Leahy was Chairman of both the Judiciary Committee overseeing the FBI and Appropriations Subcommittee in charge of foreign aid to these countries. In late September 2001, it was announced that the President was seeking a blanket waiver that would lift all restrictions on aid to military and security units in connection with pursuing the militant islamists. This extradition and imprisonment of Al Qaeda leaders, along with US support for Israel and the Mubarak government in Egypt, remains foremost in the mind of Dr. Zawahiri. At the height of the development of his biological weapons program, his brother was extradited and executed pursuant to a death sentence in the "Albanian returnees" case. It's hard to keep up with the stories about billion dollar appropriations, debt forgiveness, and loan guarantees to countries like Egypt and Israel and now even Pakistan -- and those appropriations pale in comparison to the $87 billion in a "Supplemental" appropriation relating to the invasion of Iraq. Al Qaeda had a motive in mind.

In his Fall 2001 book titled "Knights under the Banner of the Prophet," Zawahiri argued that the secular press was telling "lies" about the militant islamists -- to include the suggestion that the militant islamists were somehow the creation of the United States in connection with expelling the Russians from Afghanistan. Zawahiri argued instead that they have been active since the assassination of Anwar Sadat in Egypt because of the treaty between the Camp David Accord and the resulting peace treaty between Egypt and Israel. The anthrax letters were sent on the date of the Camp David Accord and then the date Anwar Sadat was assassinated as if to underscore the point to anyone paying attention. Most of the "talking heads" on television, however, knew only that Daschle and Leahy were liberal democrats and did not know anything of Al Qaeda beyond what they read in the newspapers. The FBI's profile includes a US-based supporter of the militant islamists. Attorney General Ashcroft has always said that an "either-or" approach is not useful. The media has tended to overlook the fact that when the FBI uses the word "domestic" the word includes a US-based, highly-educated supporter of the militant islamists.

There is an emerging consensus that anthrax was contained in a letter to AMI, the publisher of the National Enquirer -- in a goofy love letter to Jennifer Lopez enclosing a Star of David. A report by the Center for Disease Control of interviews with AMI employees (as well as detailed interviews by author Leonard Cole) supports the conclusion that there were not one, but two, such mailings containing anthrax. (The letters apparently were to different AMI publications -- for example, one may have been to the National Enquirer and another to The Globe.)

Third, this tactic of letters is not merely the modus operandi of these militant islamists inspired by Zawahiri, it is their signature. The islamists sent letter bombs in January 1997 to newspaper offices in New York City and Washington, D.C. in connection with the earlier bombing of the World Trade Center and the imprisonment of the blind sheik, Sheik Abdel Rahman. The former leader of the Egyptian Al-Gamaa al-Islamiya ("Islamic Group"), he was also a spiritual leader of Al Qaeda. The letter bombs were sent in connection with the treatment of the Egyptian islamists imprisoned for the earlier attack on the WTC and a related plot. The purpose of the letter bombs -- which resulted in minimal casualty -- was to send a message. (There is an outstanding $2 million reward). There was no claim of responsibility. There was no explanation. Once one had been received, the next ten, mailed on two separate dates, were easily collected. Sound familiar? Two bombs were also sent to Leavenworth, where a key WTC 1993 defendant was imprisoned, addressed to "Parole Officer" (a position that does not exist).

Abdel Rahman's son was captured in Quetta, Pakistan in mid-February 2003. That arrest in turn led to the dramatic capture of Khalid Mohammed, Al Qaeda's #3. Mohammed was hiding in the home of the Pakistani bacteriologist Dr. Abdul Qadoos Khan. Along with Zawahiri, Abdel Rahman and his two sons have long had considerable influence over Bin Laden. He reportedly treated them like sons. Zawahiri and OBL are Rahman's friends. The imprisoned WTC 1993 plotter Yousef was KSM's nephew. Thus, the leaders in charge of Al Qaeda's anthrax production program had a close connection to those imprisoned in connection with the earlier bombing of the World Trade Center. Osama Bin Laden had asked Iraqi intelligence for technical assistance in sending letter bombs a half year before the Al Hayat letters were sent.

A sender purporting to be islamist sent cyanide in both early 2002 and early 2003 in New Zealand and ingredients of nerve gas in Belgium in 2003. There's even a chapter titled "Poisonous Letter" in the Al Qaeda manual. Just because Al Qaeda likes its truck bombs and the like to be effective does not mean they don't see the value in a deadly missive. As Brian Jenkins once said, "terrorism is theater."

The mailer's use of Greendale School is revealing. Documents establish that Zawahiri used "school" as a code word for Al Qaeda in his correspondence. Green symbolizes Islam and was the Prophet Mohammed's color. By Greendale School, the anthrax perp was being cute, just as Yazid Sufaat was being cute in naming his lab Green Laboratory Medicine. "Dale" means "river valley." Greendale refers to green river valley -- i.e., Cairo's Egyptian Islamic Jihad or the Islamic Group. The sender is announcing that he is of either Egyptian Islamic Jihad, Egyptian Islamic Group or Jihad-al Qaeda, which is actually the full name of the group after the 1998 merger of the Egyptian Islamic Jihad and al Qaeda.

Fourth, as to opportunity, though seldom reported, there is a wealth of "open source" information about possible Al Qaeda or Egyptian Islamic Jihad or Islamic Group in the United States and Canada. The public information mostly relates to those suspected sleepers who have been detained or who are at large and are being sought. Zawahiri's mission in the United States in 1995 was to do spadework for terrorism, not fundraising. He traveled under an alias and was accompanied by a US Army sergeant anemd Ali Mohammed. What mosques exactly did they visit and who did they meet?

Whatever your political persuasion (mine is Naderite), the FBI and CIA deserve our support. We are, after all, in this together. First, the nature of such an investigation is that we lack sufficient information to second-guess (or even know) what the FBI is doing. Media reports are a poor approximation of reality because of the lack of good sources. Second, hindsight is 20/20. Third, with the "new age" Efrem Zimbalist, Jr. in charge of the investigation, it is not likely we could do better in striking the appropriate balance between due process and national security.

Finally, the "Hatfill theory" seems to have been exhausted or at least lost public favor. The "Hatfill theory" accusing Dr. Stephen Hatfill was always highly dubious. The suspicion was founded on many false premises, and there was no reliable evidence indicating his guilt. The FBI's fixation on Hatfill (at least as rumored by some reporters) may have stemmed from a warning by one Senator that careers hung in the balance. Leahy's chief of staff started with the strong predisposition that some right-winger was involved because two liberal democrats had been targeted. The Hatfill theory -- to include ongoing interviews and ongoing 7/24 surveillance by 8 surveillance specialists -- is now the subject of a pending civil rights claim of uncertain merit. The statute of limitation for the libel suit threatened against the New York Times expired in most jurisdictions the first week in July 2003. The Hatfill theory ironically may best be understood as an Al Qaeda theory, with a coincidental Malaysian connection adding to the other circumstances. Given the regrettable leaks that he was under suspicion, it is only fair that the FBI leak with equal enthusiasm the fact that Dr. Hatfill has now been dropped as a suspect.



TOPICS: Anthrax Scare; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: anthrax; attasanthraxties; biologicalweapons; cbw; domesticterrorism; getman; hambali; jihadinamerica; ksm; mohammedatta; sufaat; wmd; zawahiri
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To: EdLake
You're kidding, of course.

No OFFICIAL confirmation? I think not.

The whole world has already accepted that "the silcia was a key component" IS OFFICIAL confirmation that the Daschle anthrax contained an additive. A component IS an additive.

You continue to play games with words to further your PURELY political AGENDA.

You should look at All the FACTS, then things might become CLEAR to you. Instead you present OPINION as FACT. But if you would look at the FACTS you would draw INTELLIGENT conclusions
201 posted on 01/26/2004 7:46:08 AM PST by TrebleRebel
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To: EdLake
"But we still have the matter of no one else who examined the J-Lo letter coming down with anthrax."

Well how about that? Come to think about, there were over 100 people in the entire building - but only 2 of them came down with anthrax. So how come only Bob Stevens and Ernesto Blanco came down with anthrax? How come Stephanie Dailey didn't - she was exposed!

Your "argument" is TOTALLY self-defeating - you argue that Bob Stevens couldn't have got anthrax from the JLo letter because "nobody else got anthrax from the JLO letter". What an insane argument - are you denying that Bob Stevens even died of anthrax? It almost sounds like it.

You need to look at ALL the FACTS, instead of presenting OPINION as FACT.

Since you don't have a leg to stand on, you are simply following your well-practised theme of "if you don't have facts, just pile on the bullshit".
202 posted on 01/26/2004 7:51:50 AM PST by TrebleRebel
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To: TrebleRebel
I feel in a good mood today, so why not start another page?

It's not speculation - it's simply a guess - just as they vaccumed the third floor first and changed bags on the first floor is another guess and an equally valid one.

So you don't speculate, you guess? Interesting.

I weigh evidence. The evidence is that there is very little contamination in the area where the J-Lo letter was opened and examined, none of the people besides Bob Stevens who examined the J-Lo letter got anthrax, and the J-Lo letter could not have been mailed at the same time as all the recovered anthrax letters. That's evidence. Those are known facts. Two solid items of evidence and one item of good circumstantial evidence.

You accuse me of speculation, but you suggest that the cleaning crew could have emptied the vacuum cleaner bags on the first floor or third floor to cause the floor tests to look like the J-Lo letter didn't contain anthrax.

I think it should be very clear to everyone who is speculating here and who is examining the evidence.

Ed

www.anthraxinvestigation.com

203 posted on 01/26/2004 7:52:30 AM PST by EdLake
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To: EdLake
I had a look at your "profiles" for the "supplier" and "refiner/mailer".

Are you related to Barbara Hatch Rosenberg, perchance? Because you certainly have taken a leaf out of her book. Barbara Hatch Rosenberg made a spoof profile of Steve Hatfill - she gathered as much information as she could about him than made a list - pretending that she had cleverly deduced this all herself.

I can see that you have done EXACTLY the same thing for the poor Milwaukee drunk. You even "predict" that the supplier is a "drunk".

How clever of you to "deduce" that using your detective skills and insight.

The reality is that you wrote a "reverse profile" - an equallly despicable act as Barbara Hatch Rosenberg.

You should be ashamed of yourself. This guy in Milwaukee really needs to file a lawsuit against you.

You are busted!
204 posted on 01/26/2004 7:57:17 AM PST by TrebleRebel
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To: TrebleRebel
The whole world has already accepted that "the silcia was a key component" IS OFFICIAL confirmation that the Daschle anthrax contained an additive. A component IS an additive.

Interesting interpretation, but I notice that you are now talking about an "additive" instead of a "coating". Does the "whole world" also believe that the spores were coated? I can name people who do not believe it.

And as stated many times before, the silica could have come from a variety of sources.

Besides, the number of people who believe something has nothing to do with whether it is true or not. At one time nearly everyone in the world believed that the earth is flat. That didn't make it flat.

I look for evidence not opinions. Any idiot can have an opinion. But facts are a different matter.

Ed

www.anthraxinvestigation.com

205 posted on 01/26/2004 8:00:57 AM PST by EdLake
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To: EdLake
"You accuse me of speculation, but you suggest that the cleaning crew could have emptied the vacuum cleaner bags on the first floor or third floor to cause the floor tests to look like the J-Lo letter didn't contain anthrax."

I'm not speculating at all - I'm just presenting scenarios that prove your speculations are total garbage. Speculating, as you do, is making statements like "the vaccuming would have caused X and spores would have been found on Y".

The truth is - you cannot POSSIBLY knowthe dynamics of what happened in that building - but that doesn't stop yot presenting your TOTAL speculations as FACT.

If you still can't see the connection between the September 19 letter and the death of Bob Stevens you are seriously out of your mind - and that wouldn't surprise me in the least. Anyone who creates such a transparent "reverse profile" of the Milwaukee drunk and hopes nobody will catch on to what he's done is seriously mentally ill.

206 posted on 01/26/2004 8:02:26 AM PST by TrebleRebel
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To: EdLake
"I can name people who do not believe it."

Who? - Matthew Meselson - the guy that thought for 15 years that 100 people died from eating sausages?
207 posted on 01/26/2004 8:03:49 AM PST by TrebleRebel
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To: EdLake
"Interesting interpretation, but I notice that you are now talking about an "additive" instead of a "coating"."

Any additive used to weaponize anthrax IS a coating. You are simply parsing words to try to defend your PURELY POLITICAL theory - that a drunk and his cohorts were responsible for the 2001 anthrax attacks.

You need to look at ALL the FACTS. Once you look at ALL the FACTS you will see that your PURELY POLITICAL theory is total crap.
208 posted on 01/26/2004 8:06:46 AM PST by TrebleRebel
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To: TrebleRebel
Any additive used to weaponize anthrax IS a coating.

Hmmm. Interesting. Nonsense, but interesting.

It looks to me like we're just going in circles here. You interpret things and say they are facts. I present facts and you say they mean nothing.

There's no point in doing that all day for another day.

Ed

www.anthraxinvestigation.com

209 posted on 01/26/2004 8:57:14 AM PST by EdLake
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To: EdLake
So, why did you choose to write a reverse profile of this guy Michael Failey?

I suppose you found out what age he was and "guessed" in your profile that he was late 40's early 50's. Is that what you did?

Did you also "guess" he was unmarried?

Why are acting as dispicably as Barbara Hatch Rosenberg?




The FBI said that the chemist, whom the Miami Herald named today as
Michael Failey, is no longer under suspicion, according to the Herald.

"We have developed no information that he ever had access to anthrax
while he was at Battelle, and there was no anthrax in his home," one
official said (David Kidwell, Miami Herald, Dec. 21).


http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/timeline/2001/
columbusdispatch122101.html
Anthrax Probe Story Is Baloney, FBI Says

by Bruce Cadwallader and Catherine Candisky
The Columbus Dispatch
December 21, 2001




The FBI says it is not investigating a former Battelle scientist in
relation to an anthrax scare, contrary to national broadcast news
reports.

U.S. Sen. Mike DeWine said he talked to FBI Director Robert Mueller
yesterday and was assured that the scientist was not being
investigated. ABC News reported otherwise this week. "He said the ABC
News report was not true, that 'The network did not check with us, we
have no investigation and no one with or formerly with Battelle is a
suspect,' " DeWine said.

The scientist hasn't been charged and isn't under investigation, so The
Dispatch is not naming him.

ABC said he was at the heart of an investigation into an anthrax threat
soon after Sept. 11.

The scientist, who said he now works in a bowling alley, told The
Dispatch yesterday that agents searched his home in Milwaukee after he
made a vague reference to police about anthrax during a dispute with a
neighbor.

He said he later spoke to an ABC producer, denying any involvement with
anthrax.

"I didn't even know what anthrax was back then," the scientist said.
"My background does not involve biological weapons, and I never worked
with anthrax."

An Oct. 5 Milwaukee Journal Sentinel story quoted FBI agents as saying
they seized computer equipment from his home but found no anthrax
spores and discontinued the investigation.

The scientist, who worked at Battelle between March 1983 and April
1999, said his expertise included radioisotopes, military ordnance and
decontamination.

It has been widely reported that Battelle is one of two research
facilities in the country authorized to produce weapons-grade anthrax
spores. The other is in Utah. Both have been searched by the FBI.

"We are cooperating fully with the investigation but we can't comment
or provide any specific information on former personnel or an ongoing
investigation," Battelle spokeswoman Katy Delaney said.





http://www.jsonline.com/news/attack/oct01/phd05100401a.asp

Scientist's anthrax claim was bogus

Man with doctorate degree in chemistry was drunk, police say

By GRETCHEN SCHULDT
of the Journal Sentinel staff

Last Updated: Oct. 4, 2001

A week after the terrorist attacks on America, a highly educated
scientist told Milwaukee police that he was building an anthrax
delivery system in his basement, according to documents filed in
federal court.

In these times of heightened alert, the remark earned the man a visit
from FBI agents armed with a search warrant, who took the man's
computer, and keypads from a telephone and a microwave oven, according
to court records. But no deadly anthrax.

As it turns out, police were responding to a neighbor dispute, and the
man was intoxicated when he made the anthrax comments to police.

FBI spokeswoman Cathy Fahey said no further investigation is planned
and the man, whose resume says he has a doctorate in nuclear and
environmental chemistry, is not likely to be charged.

The affidavit says the man apparently was intoxicated when he made the
anthrax statement to police just days after the Sept. 11 terrorist
attacks left the nation with heightened vigilance against potential
biological or chemical threats.

About 200 pounds of anthrax spores released upwind of Washington, D.C.,
could kill up to 3 million people, according to a government study.

Police were summoned to the man's west side home Sept. 18 by his
mother, who feared he would get into a physical confrontation with a
neighbor over damage her son allegedly did with a lawn mower to the
neighbor's property.

The woman "indicated that her son was usually not violent, but had
recently developed an alcohol problem and is unable to control his
temper after drinking," according to the affidavit by FBI Special Agent
Parker Shipley.

The affidavit was filed last week in support of a request for a search
warrant. The search was conducted Friday.

The affidavit says the man told officers he had worked for
subcontractors of the U.S. Departments of Defense and Energy as a
senior research scientist.

His resume, which he provided to the officers, "indicates that his
specialty is in the areas of radio chemistry, military ordnance and
munitions, and decontamination," the affidavit says.

The man's employment history was verified with a former employer, the
Battelle Memorial Institute in Columbus, Ohio. He was fired twice - in
1996 and 1999 - from his job there as a senior research scientist,
according to the affidavit and the man's resume, which also was filed
in court.

Battelle "had reason" to search the man's home after he was fired the
second time, the affidavit says.

The searchers found chemicals that were not illegal to possess, but an
informant told the FBI that the man "has the knowledge and experience
to utilize the chemicals that were found in his basement to make a
lethal chemical agent," the affidavit says.

Appeared in the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel on Oct. 5, 2001.
210 posted on 01/26/2004 9:03:49 AM PST by TrebleRebel
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To: EdLake
"Hmmm. Interesting. Nonsense, but interesting."

Nma your sources for this. I have a source that when an additive is added to anthrax to increase it's floatabilty it is applied as a coating. The source is the Sceincve article.

What's your theory of an additive that is NOT a coating? You must have one - since you say my statement is "nonsense".

So stop your insults like saying I'm talking "nonsense" and just give your source.

Your website is PURE POLITICS - it is a thinly disguised campaign to convict an innocent man. This campaign is no different than BHR's campaign.
211 posted on 01/26/2004 9:28:24 AM PST by TrebleRebel
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To: TrebleRebel
What's your theory of an additive that is NOT a coating? You must have one - since you say my statement is "nonsense".

Silica is a common drying agent. One of the suggestions for the presence of silica in the Daschle anthrax is that silica was used as some kind of primitive drying agent - and traces remained. Silica is also a common additive to keep things from sticking together - not as a coating but as a separator. Here's one description from HERE.

Series-SD silica additive is mainly used as the anti-blocking agent, thickener, stabilizer and carrier in the area of the medicine, food and forage, also as the dryness absorbent of the essence and spicy. Its appearance is uniformly ivory powder. Due to the large specific surface area and the sub-microcosmic of the silica, it can separate with other powder substance, at the same time it promote the freedom fluidness resulting in the improvement of the wet absorption and anti-block ability.

So, to repeat, to say that an additive is a coating is total nonsense.

Ed

www.anthraxinvestigation.com

212 posted on 01/26/2004 9:44:20 AM PST by EdLake
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To: EdLake
"Silica is a common drying agent."

So? What's that got to do with silica weaponizing anthrax?

The OFFICICAL sources, NAMED SOURCES, such as Florabel Mullick, Frank Johnson and Major General John Parker are ALL ON THE RECORD stating that the silica was A KEY COMPONENT USED TO MAKE THE ANTHRAX FLOAT.

Tell us how silica can be a KEY COMPONENT to make the anthrax float WITHOUT that silica being a coating.

Once again, you are desperately trying to hide behind words. Your PURELY POLITICAL agenda and YOUR CAMPAIGN against Michael Failey, a man the FBI says is INNOCENT is once again totally blinding any logic.

You really ought to TRY to look at ALL the FACTS. When you LOOK at ALL the FACTS together and in light of the OFFICIAL US government statements that the silica was a KEY COMPONENT of the senate anthrax, it becomes clear to all of us that you are simply conducting a campaign of harrassment against Michael Failey.
213 posted on 01/26/2004 11:06:05 AM PST by TrebleRebel
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To: flamefront
bumpidy bump for later...
214 posted on 01/26/2004 11:31:23 AM PST by Dr.Deth
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To: EdLake
We can all now see that your "profile" for the "supplier" was simply constructed from the information that you obtained about Michael Failey from links like the one below:

http://www.nti.org/d_newswire/issues/thisweek/2001_12_21_biow.html

Your profile:

1. The supplier probably took the Ames anthrax from a government facility.
2. The supplier was probably fired from that facility.
3. The supplier is probably considered an unstable personality, perhaps even a "drunk".
4. The supplier is almost certainly unmarried.
5. The supplier is a loner with few friends - if any.
6. The supplier is disgruntled and uncomfortable working with others.
7. The supplier probably uses phrases like "I keep telling them, but they don't listen."
8. The supplier doesn't care much about "rules".
9. The supplier believes that a free exchange of information is key to advancements in science.
10. The supplier may have had knowledge needed by the refiner/mailer.
11. The supplier is probably in his late 40s or early 50s.
12. The supplier probably lost his security clearance as a result of his actions.



Let's face it - you're busted!

You simply made this profile from every piece of information you had about Failey. This was EXACTLY what BHR did with Dr Steve Hatfill.

Shame on you! You are simply an attention-seeking individual with a narcisstic mental disorder. You had no problem faking the above profile you made - you wanted everyone to believe that you cleverly "deduced" all these details. When in fact you simply read about Michael Failey and then wrote the profile around him.

You are BUSTED!

215 posted on 01/26/2004 12:41:04 PM PST by TrebleRebel
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To: EdLake
"3. The supplier is probably considered an unstable personality, perhaps even a "drunk"."

This is a particularly nice touch. Having discovered that Michael Failey has an alcohol problem, you decide to insert this into your "profile". But better not make it too direct though, better just add "perhaps" even a "drunk".

Your arrogance knows no bounds - or your delusions about yourself. You actually had the gall to think people would believe you manged to make all these brilliant "deductions" from nothing!

Somehow you knew the "supplier" was a "drunk". Somehow you knew he had been fired from his job. Somehow you knew he used to work at an institute that had anthrax.

It now turns out that you did a Barbara Hatch Rosenberg - the very woman you have been obssessivley lambasting for the last 2 years for displaying the very same behavior you have displayed.

I'm glad you have a link to this thread on your website - that way your readers can easily find out just what a total and complete fraud you are.

I suppose your other "profile" is also based around a real person. I wonder who that is? I'm sure we'll find out by digging a little deeper.
216 posted on 01/26/2004 3:24:36 PM PST by TrebleRebel
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To: EdLake
"4. The supplier is almost certainly unmarried."

Brilliant deduction Lake - what incredible insight you showed. Just using your skill, judgement and brilliant deductive reasoning powers, which are far superior to the rest of us mere mortals, you were able to tell us in your "profile" that the "supplier" was "almost certainly" unmarried.

On the other hand, maybe you just read the article below.

Or to put it another way - maybe your entire "profile" is a total and complete fraud.



http://www.jsonline.com/news/attack/oct01/phd05100401a.asp


Police were summoned to the man's west side home Sept. 18 by his
mother, who feared he would get into a physical confrontation with a
neighbor over damage her son allegedly did with a lawn mower to the
neighbor's property


217 posted on 01/26/2004 3:41:18 PM PST by TrebleRebel
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