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Russian SU-34 bomber enters service...
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Posted on 01/23/2004 3:09:47 PM PST by 1stFreedom

Based on the impressive Su-27 fighter, the Su-34 is a new tactical low-level bomber designed to replace the Su-24. The first Su-34 prototype was a modified Su-30 tandem two-seat trainer (itself a variant of the Su-27) reconfigured with two side-by-side seats in a widened fuselage.

The widened nose also contains a terrain-following radar and terrain-avoidance system needed for low-level flight. Furthermore, the revised nose shape is a flat, sharp, chined configuration similar to that on the SR-71 Blackbird to reduce the radar cross-section of the aircraft. Like the Su-27, the Su-34 also features a rearward facing radar between the engines to track and fire upon targets behind the aircraft.

Improvements over the Su-27 include more sophisticated avionics, addition of canards like those of the Su-33, better maneuverability, greater range, and improved low-level flight performance. The Su-34, originally known as the Su-27IB, is expected to replace the Su-24 bomber by about 2010. A further variant of the Su-34 is the Su-32FN optimized for maritime attack and reconnaissance duties. Some reports also suggest a navalized version of the Su-34 (possibly confused with the Su-33UB) equipped with more powerful engines and thrust vectoring to reduce the takeoff distance, but this variant is doubtful now that the Russian Navy no longer operates any vessels capable of carrying such an aircraft.



TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: armsbuildup; bomber; miltech; russia; russianmilitary; su34
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Rear facing radar with a missile that fires behind the aircraft is waaayy cool. Areodymacially, this plane is old, but the Russians have been doing good with maxing out older technology.
1 posted on 01/23/2004 3:09:49 PM PST by 1stFreedom
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To: 1stFreedom
I'm sure it's safe to say that the Chinese will be buying many of these.
2 posted on 01/23/2004 3:14:18 PM PST by Orangedog (An optimist is someone who tells you to 'cheer up' when things are going his way)
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To: 1stFreedom
This indian source decribes that capability of thier SU30MKI.
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/Aircraft/Specs/Su-30.html
3 posted on 01/23/2004 3:25:17 PM PST by RusIvan
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To: 1stFreedom
Rear facing radar with a missile that fires behind the aircraft is waaayy cool. Areodymacially, this plane is old, but the Russians have been doing good with maxing out older technology.

FireFox comes off the big screen.

4 posted on 01/23/2004 3:27:04 PM PST by Centurion2000 (Resolve to perform what you must; perform without fail that what you resolve.)
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To: Centurion2000
FireFox comes off the big screen.

Yea, but they will never get Clint!

LVM

5 posted on 01/23/2004 4:00:04 PM PST by LasVegasMac (My SUV can kick your SUV's butt.........)
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To: 1stFreedom
Areodymacially, this plane is old

How do you figure? The Su-27, which this Su-34 is based on, entered service only in the mid-80's. The American equivalent to the Su-34 would be the F-15E Strike Eagle, but the F-15 airframe is about 10 years older than the Su-27/30/34 airframe.

Also, the Su-34 has something that no other strike fighter in the world has: a toilet in the cockpit. This makes it suitable for very long missions.

6 posted on 01/23/2004 4:08:21 PM PST by Seselj
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To: 1stFreedom
Rear facing radar with a missile that fires behind the aircraft is waaayy cool.

Until someone has the bright idea of programming an AIM-120's "home on jam" feature to recognize the radar as a jammer.

7 posted on 01/23/2004 4:11:41 PM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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To: Seselj
"Also, the Su-34 has something that no other strike fighter in the world has: a toilet in the cockpit."

Pisser!
8 posted on 01/23/2004 4:11:57 PM PST by LuigiBasco
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To: Orangedog
I'm sure it's safe to say that the Chinese will be buying many of these.

Sure. Will they be giving the aircrews enough time to be proficient?

Hardware is cool. Meatware is king.

9 posted on 01/23/2004 4:12:24 PM PST by Poohbah ("Beware the fury of a patient man" -- John Dryden)
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To: Seselj
>>How do you figure? The Su-27, which this Su-34 is based on, entered service only in the mid-80's.

Exactly. Look at American aircraft design, like the F22, F117, B2, and you'll get the pic. A country shouldn't be fielding an 80's era aircraft as "new"
10 posted on 01/23/2004 4:13:00 PM PST by 1stFreedom
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To: Poohbah
I'm sure it's safe to say that the Chinese will be buying many of these.

I'm very naive regarding global economics, but it bothers me to see the connection between Americans buying tons of toys and consumer products from China, and the dollars the Communist regime then uses to increase its military.
It worries me that one result of our Yankee nature to buy the lowest cost products would be the funding of a future-hostile nation.
It's one reason I prefer to buy American products first, then Japanese, then European, then Taiwanese. I buy PROC products last. Unfortunately, price is an insiduous thing...
--Slip

11 posted on 01/23/2004 4:23:19 PM PST by Mr_Slippery ("We can remember it for you wholesale" (Historical Revisionist Society))
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To: Pukin Dog
Do those canards really help?
12 posted on 01/23/2004 4:32:07 PM PST by IGOTMINE (All we are saying... is give guns a chance!)
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To: Poohbah
Until someone has the bright idea of programming an AIM-120's

Hush.

13 posted on 01/23/2004 5:38:25 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: IGOTMINE
From the location, I would argue that those are vortex generators, which would help provide lift throughout the entire flight envelope. Placing those along the wing root would do a lot to increase pitch authority and also provide better control in high alpha conditions.
14 posted on 01/23/2004 5:41:49 PM PST by Pukin Dog (Sans Reproache)
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To: 1stFreedom
Now that is a pretty plane
15 posted on 01/23/2004 7:13:53 PM PST by JosephW
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To: 1stFreedom
What do they run for engines in this ? Does it have anything to compete with "super cruise" ?
16 posted on 01/23/2004 7:19:05 PM PST by ChadGore (George W. Bush has done more to earn my vote than any other American alive today.)
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To: Mr_Slippery
Hey! Right now! Flip your mouse over. What's it say ?

Made in . . . ?

17 posted on 01/23/2004 7:21:11 PM PST by ChadGore (George W. Bush has done more to earn my vote than any other American alive today.)
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To: 1stFreedom
This aircraft was around since the late 80's. After the fall of communism, Russia could not afford to produce large numbers of them. Only now Russia has enough money to officially put it to service. This aircraft is nothing new.
18 posted on 01/23/2004 7:33:47 PM PST by Soviet
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To: Soviet
This aircraft was around since the late 80's. After the fall of communism, Russia could not afford to produce large numbers of them. Only now Russia has enough money to officially put it to service. This aircraft is nothing new.

I don't think (based on my perspicacity & expertise as an ex-mortar maggot!) that this plane is a quantum leap forward- no stealth, focus on in close dog fighting maneuverability, etc.- but I do think the russkies are pretty slick in the way they take a proven design, and upgrade it through multiple iterations.

My $.02. Anybody who be's a flyboy want to add anything?

Please?

19 posted on 01/23/2004 9:35:18 PM PST by fourdeuce82d
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To: Seselj
Also, the Su-34 has something that no other strike fighter in the world has: a toilet in the cockpit. This makes it suitable for very long missions

Combined with that rear-facing radar, this could really give us the sh*ts. Hope we have windshield wipers.

20 posted on 01/23/2004 9:38:56 PM PST by Leroy S. Mort
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