Rep. Tom Tancredo’s Four-Point Plan for Immigration Control

The Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus ^

[Happy2BMe]

"I call it the "read my lips" gene."

I call it the "no Big Government" syndrome . .

Bush Brings Back Big (And Expensive) Government

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[gatorbait]

You do recall what happened when a Marine rifle squad encountered a group of illegals, right? Another thing that occurs t me in this thread,the beginnings of the War on Drugs. Think about that one for awhile.Or not.

[dagnabbit]

By overall reduced influx, I meant lower overall migration into the USA, legal and illegal.

[citizen]

This should be Bush's immigration policy, not this abomination he's shoving down our throats.

[c-b 1]

He needs to stop taking potshots at the President and actually communicate - and collaborate - with him on realistic proposals.

Tancredo tried that, Karl Rove showed him the door.

[XBob]

5-"The only thing I don't agree with is forcing those that have jobs to go back to apply for guest-worker status -- that seems unnecessaary and wastful to me."

That's the very point, DUH !!!!

To make it hard, unnecessary, and wasteful for illegal immigrants and their employers to flout the law.

[XBob]

XBob's plan:

1. Illegal's responsibility - caught illegals can never return to or work in US
2. Illegal's responsibility - Anchor babies - no longer allowed.
3. Illegal's responsibility - No SSI benefits for illegals.

4. Illegal's responsibility - No IR$ refunds for illegals.

1. Employer responsibility - 1st illegal employee caught - employer returns illegal to home.
2. Employer responsibility - 2nd illegal employee caught - employer returns illegal to home plus another caught by INS.
3. Employer responsibility - 3rd illegal employee caught - employer returns illegal to home plus 3 caught by INS.
4. Employer responsibility - 4th illegal employee caught - employer returns illegal to home plus 4 caught by INS.
5. Employer responsibility - 5th illegal employee caught - employer returns illegal to home plus 5 caught by INS.
etc, etc etc

Results:
Gradualally escalating returns of illegals, lots of self returns, illegals make money for govt rather than cost money.

7 - This plan is rough, but would work. What if FReepers we were add to/polish it up a bit, but keeping it very simple, and make a serious political proposal out of it?

Perhaps add something like migrant workers could only be hired in their country of origin, would have to come directly from it to their job, and be allowed to remain for only one harvest season, or 6 months, or something?

Let's do something constructive, rather than just bitch!!
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1062207/posts?page=9#9

Any illegals who receive medical/food aid at taxpayer's expense will have 25% of their wages deducted until debt is paid. Mexico must also agree to do the same on any wages the worker earns there.

Employers who wish to employ these willing workers must agree to pay any remaining amount their workers take from the social services support system that these workers do not repay.

12 posted on 01/21/2004 10:43:12 AM CST by Helix (Here's to hoping I've proofread

[XBob]

17-Ignoring employer sanctions in Bush proposal??? DUH!!!


http://www.networkusa.org/fingerprint/page3/fp-cato-pa237.html

Policy Analysis No. 237
September 7, 1995

by John J. Miller and Stephen Moore

The Failed Legacy of Employer Sanctions

Most illegal immigrants come to the United States in search of employment, not to go on welfare. For many years federal officials have attempted to deter illegal immigration by denying undocumented aliens access to the U.S. job market. In 1986 Congress passed the "employer sanctions" provision of the Immigration Reform and Control Act. Employer sanctions made it a crime for employers to knowingly hire illegal aliens. Under IRCA, job applicants must prove either their citizenship or their legal residence by completing an I-9 Form before they can begin work. Business owners who fail to comply with the law and knowingly hire illegal immigrants can face thousands of dollars in fines and, in the severest cases, prison sentences.

After a decade of experience with employer sanctions, any objective assessment could only conclude that the law has been an unmitigated failure. Employer sanctions have done virtually nothing to halt illegal immigration. The number of illegal immigrants apprehended at the Mexican border rose steadily from 1989 through 1993 (see Figure 1).(1) Last year, 10 years after employer sanctions were established, 1 million illegal immigrants were apprehended. That is not altogether surprising. Before passage of IRCA, a General Accounting Office study reported that employer sanctions had been unsuccessful in virtually every developed country that had tried them.(2)

Despite the failure of employer sanctions, much of the hysteria over illegal immigration is not confirmed by the official statistics on the size of the illegal alien population. The Bureau of the Census estimates that there are now 4 million illegal aliens living in the United States and

Figure 1
Impact of Employer Sanctions on Apprehensions at the Mexican Border

Year Millions of Apprehensions

1980 0.8

1981 0.9

1982 0.9

1983 1.2

1984 1.2

1985 1.3

1986 1.7

Employer Sanctions Implemented

1987 1.2

1988 1.0

1989 0.9

1990 1.1

1991 1.1

1992 1.2

1993 1.3

1994 1.0


Source: Immigration and Naturalization Service, Statistical Division.

that about 300,000 more settle permanently each year. Four million illegal immigrants is undeniably a large number of people, but it is far below the "invading army" of 8 million 10 million aliens regularly reported in the media and by anti-immigrant lobbyists. Illegal aliens constitute only about 1.5 percent of the 260 million people living in the United States. Surely that number does not require draconian enforcement measures that would touch every single American worker and employer--especially the majority of Americans who do not live in areas with large numbers of illegal aliens.(3)

In addition to not working, employer sanctions have caused significant harm to many Americans. Virtually every independent study on the impact of IRCA has discovered that employer sanctions have caused discrimination against foreign-looking American workers, particularly Asians and Hispanics. In 1990 the General Accounting Office documented a "serious pattern of discrimination" resulting from the employer sanctions law.(4) The documents of Hispanic job applicants were three times more likely to be challenged than were those of whites. A report by a New York State task force found similar problems. According to the New York Times, "The report clearly demonstrates that employers in New York State are adopting practices that discriminate against foreign residents, out of fear of penalties under the immigration law."(5) Employer sanctions give even well-intentioned employers an incentive to discriminate in order to avoid costly confrontations with the Immigration and Naturalization Service. As the Wall Street Journal aptly put it, employer sanctions are the first set of laws "since Jim Crow where the government is so closely aligned with a process that produces discrimination."(6)

When employer sanctions were passed in late 1985, many critics complained that precisely those discriminatory effects would occur. Critics also said that employer sanctions would inevitably lead to a national ID card.(7) Supporters of the law promised that neither of those things would happen.

[Travis McGee]

Go Tom GO!

[XBob]

35 - "I think his plan is missing a key element....that is ceasing all forms of welfare style assistance to these people except for emergencies. This is key to forcing employers to offer a livable wage to everyone, not just illegals. As long as most employers know that the taxpayers will be socked with supplementing their workers living expenses wages will continue to be very low and probably heading lower."

However, solve that problem, and don't solve the problem of exporting jobs, and we still have a major problem.

[Ajnin]

Except for the guestworker program, the proposed legislation looks good. We have a saying in the Border Patrol "There is nothing more permanent than a temporary worker."

The major concern I have is the fact that our laws are not enforced as they stand. If we had the will to enforce the laws that we have now, we probably would not have to introduce such sweeping legislation. We do need to take a look at getting rid of family unity laws and we definitely need to get rid of the law allowing US born children of illegal aliens to derive citizenship.