This stuff is getting out of control
1 posted on
01/24/2004 9:17:05 AM PST by
mylife
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To: Gabz
call up the puff list
2 posted on
01/24/2004 9:17:33 AM PST by
mylife
To: mylife
Zangrando said his neighbor's cigarette smoking is apparent whenever he opens a window or steps outside his home. He said the fumes compromise his health, causing him to wheeze and cough. How does he know it is not the fumes from Akron, OH?!?!
To: mylife
This is what happens when busybodies get a foot in the door of public policy. The smoking Nazis rule, and the fat police must be stopped!
To: mylife
ridiculous people with too much time on their hands clogging up the court with this CRAP
5 posted on
01/24/2004 9:24:42 AM PST by
cyborg
To: mylife
This stuff is getting out of control Yes, it is. Smokers seem to have this insane need to assert that it is their right to bother other people with their fumes. And in this particular case, the smoker seems to think that her right to smoke is more important that the (apparently real) harm it causes the neighbor.
Sorry, I just can't work up any sympathy for a group of folks who insists on doing stupid things to their own bodies, and in so doing makes things unpleasant for the rest of us, too.
6 posted on
01/24/2004 9:24:45 AM PST by
r9etb
To: mylife
"It hits you right away, the minute you walk out the door. It catches me, I start coughing, I know she's smoking, I can see she's smoking visually, and I can get the effects of the smoke when I inhale what should be fresh air in my own back patio,'' Zangrando told the judge."This is beyond anal retentive super senstive Leftist whining. Zangrado is a control freak, and out of control.
7 posted on
01/24/2004 9:24:52 AM PST by
JoJo Gunn
(Help control the Leftist population - have them spayed or neutered. ©)
To: mylife
The anti-smoking Nazis will stop at nothing--I'm surprised they haven't complained about the neighbor smoking within her own home.
The old saying ...be careful of what you wish... for could also apply--are these strident anti-smokers willing to pay the higher taxes needed to make up for all the tobacco taxes currently collected when smoking is essentially banned?
To: mylife
And some people fear the Patriot Act. Can it get much worse than this example of infringement on ones rights in and around their own home?
15 posted on
01/24/2004 9:30:23 AM PST by
Saltmeat
To: mylife
This is why people buy real houses with big yards. The guy has a solution - move.
To: mylife
She should counter-sue this freak for invasion of privacy and harassment.
18 posted on
01/24/2004 9:32:14 AM PST by
LisaMalia
(Buckeye Fan since birth!!)
To: mylife; Land of the Free 04
I guess this is one of those situations I keep hearing about on FR, where the effects of one person's behavior aren't limited to that person alone, and must be regulated by the State.
28 posted on
01/24/2004 9:36:08 AM PST by
Wolfie
To: mylife
About 5 years ago, my husband and I went on the Atkins diet. It was in the summer and he and I grilled hamburgers, steaks, pork chops, what have you, just about 7 nights a week. We lived in a townhouse with one neighbor--we were an end unit. The neighbor in the end unit across the yard-about 25 feet or so-actually called the local police to complain that we were stinking up her yard with our grill.
The police told her that there was nothing he could do because we were in our own yard and were violating no local ordinances.
She took to standing in her yard and YELLING at us every time we went out, whether we were grilling or not.
Thank goodness we moved about 6 months after this started, or I think she would have tried to sue us.
To: mylife
"It hits you right away, the minute you walk out the door. It catches me, I start coughing, I know she's smoking, I can see she's smoking visually, and I can get the effects of the smoke when I inhale what should be fresh air in my own back patio," Zangrando told the judge.
How do you smoke visually?
35 posted on
01/24/2004 9:38:38 AM PST by
Xenalyte
(I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
To: mylife
Hey, if she can't smoke tobacco on her own balcony, the next thing you know, they'll stop her from burning chopped truck tires, as well!!
Why do smokers believe that their tobacco smoke is a blessing to others? Why do they believe that the results of their addiction should be tolerated, if not enjoyed, by non-addicts? It is jus like the kid who plays his boom box at max, whether on the street, in his car, or in the apartment next door.
What is puzzling here is why the addict has to go out on the balcony to smoke and does not smoke in her apartment. Is it because she has a child she doesn't want to poision? Does her "room-mate" dislike smoking that much? This honey should have the mental strength to quit and screw the state out of the tax revenue.
38 posted on
01/24/2004 9:39:27 AM PST by
Tacis
To: mylife
I think the neighbor should insist the couple next store practice safe sex, with government supervision. /sarc
39 posted on
01/24/2004 9:40:58 AM PST by
P.O.E.
To: mylife
Any bets on how many replies this thread will get?
I say at least a thousand.
To: mylife
He said he suffers from lung problems, including emphysema, and has had asthma in the past. He said the smoking is such that he is reluctant to let his dog or two cats outside.I think its pretty clear the guy is a crank (he won't let his dog and cats outside???), and his health claims seem ambiguous at best (e.g., he appears not to have gathered medical proof during this two-year episode).
Also, why is this an "emergency"? Do Ohioians regularly keep their windows and doors open in January?
Control freak, obsessive, mean spirited, old crank. Wonder how many other neighbors he's made friends with.
52 posted on
01/24/2004 9:47:20 AM PST by
angkor
To: mylife
This guy has emphysema (I wonder how he developed it), lives in an urban area with automobile exhaust, factory emissions, etc, but it is only this neighbors cigarette smoke that affects him?
58 posted on
01/24/2004 9:50:17 AM PST by
CaptRon
(Pedecaris alive or Raisuli dead)
I'm doing some unofficial research about second-hand cigarette smoke as applied to nuisance law. Any info would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
60 posted on
01/24/2004 9:51:25 AM PST by
1rudeboy
To: mylife
He said the smoking is such that he is reluctant to let his dog or two cats outside. Is he aware how much animal protein he's inhaling, being cooped up with three animals? Not trying to be flip, but it doesn't appear to me that he's doing everything he can do to make it easier for him to breathe. And I love animals . . . So I hate saying this, and only do so to point out his own neglect in this case.
Additionally, you have to wonder if, perhaps, his emphysema is a result of his own smoking years ago. The article doesn't say. I mean, is his emphysema her fault or his fault?
The guy should move, imo. I would if I were in his shoes. In a second flat. And he can afford to do it, being a retired professor. Why in the world would an emphysema sufferer choose to live in condo slums, where people are necessarily crowded together and are bound to produce lots of airborne particulate matter that someone with emphysema will have difficulty tolerating?
69 posted on
01/24/2004 9:54:18 AM PST by
LibWhacker
(<a href="http://www.michaelmoore.com/">Miserable Failure</a>)
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