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Balkan Failure is Clark's (Building anti-American anger) (May 1999)
Chicago-Sun Times ^ | May 6, 1999 | Robert Novak

Posted on 01/25/2004 4:54:47 PM PST by XHogPilot

Balkan failure is Clark's

Who is responsible for an air offensive that is building anti-American anger across Europe without breaking the Serbian regime's will? The blame rests heavily on Gen. Wesley Clark, the NATO supreme commander.

After 40 days, U.S.-dominated NATO air strikes no longer even pretend to aim solely at military targets. Pentagon sources admit that the attacks on the city center of Belgrade are intended to so demoralize ordinary citizens that they force President Slobodan Milosevic to yield. That has not yet happened, but diplomats believe the grave damage done to American prestige in Central and Eastern Europe will outlive this vicious little war.

"The problem is Wes Clark making--at least approving--the bombing decisions," said one such diplomat, who then asked rhetorically: "How could they let a man with such a lack of judgment be [supreme allied commander of Europe]?" Through dealings with Yugoslavia that date back to 1994, Clark's propensity for mistakes has kept him in trouble while he continued moving up the chain of command thanks to a patron in the Oval Office.

In the last month's American newspaper clippings, Clark emerges as the only heroic figure of a non-heroic war. Indeed, his resume is stirring: first in his class at West Point, Rhodes scholar, frequently wounded and highly decorated Vietnam combat veteran, White House fellow. He became a full general about as fast as possible in peacetime.

But members of Congress who visited Clark at his Brussels headquarters in the early days of the attack on Yugoslavia were startled by his off-the-record comments. If the Russians are going to sail war ships into the combat zone, we should bomb them. If Milosevic is getting oil from the Hungarian pipeline, we should bomb it.

NATO's actual air strategy did not go that far, but increasingly, it has reflected Clark's belligerence. Even the general's defenders in the national security establishment cannot understand the targeting of empty government buildings in Belgrade, including Milosevic's official residence. Civilian damage and casualties in Kosovo and elsewhere in Serbia are too widespread to be accidental.

Sources inside the U.S. high command say this week's disabling of Belgrade electrical power facilities was intended to destroy civilian morale. The Pentagon has announced NATO "area bombing" with "dumb" bombs carried by B-52s--clearly an anti-population tactic. In a highly limited war, Clark is using the methods of total war.

One American diplomat with experience in the Balkans, who asked that he not be quoted by name, told me that ground forces are needed and he is appalled by the bombing of civilian targets. "It has no military significance, and it is pointless--utterly pointless," he added. "But it has a terrible impact on us. This bombing in the heart of the Balkans is costing us."

That cost is viewed by State Department professionals as the product of Clark's deaf ear when it comes to diplomacy. His classic gaffe came in 1994 when he went off to meet Ratko Mladic, the brutal Bosnian Serb commander now sought as a war criminal, at his redoubt in Banja Luka. Mladic concluded their meeting by saying how much he admired Clark's three-star general cap. Impulsively, the American general exchanged hats with the notorious commander, who has been accused of ethnic cleansing, and even accepted Mladic's service revolver with an engraved message.

That escapade cost Victor Jackovich his job as U.S. ambassador to Bosnia. He was sacked partly for not exercising sufficient restraint on the mercurial Clark and for not preventing him from gallivanting off to Banja Luka. The sequel came at Belgrade a year later during the diplomacy leading to the Dayton peace conference. Milosevic, smiling broadly, humiliated Clark by returning his hat to him. That helps explain the general's intense personal animosity for the Yugoslav president.

Clark is the perfect model of a 1990s political four-star general. Clark's rapid promotions after Dayton--winning his fourth star to head the Panama-based Southern Command and then the jewel of his European post--were both opposed by the Pentagon brass. But Clark's fellow Arkansan in the White House named him anyway. The president and the general are collaborators in a failed strategy whose consequences cast a long shadow even if soon terminated by negotiation.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Editorial; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New Hampshire
KEYWORDS: 2004; balkan; balkand; clark; kosovo; miserablefailure; nato; nh; novak; wesleyclark
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Who is responsible for an air offensive that is building anti-American anger across Europe without breaking the Serbian regime's will? The blame rests heavily on Gen. Wesley Clark, the NATO supreme commander.

Who destroyed the good will of our European allies?

Sometimes old news is so telling...

1 posted on 01/25/2004 4:54:47 PM PST by XHogPilot
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To: XHogPilot
Great find!
2 posted on 01/25/2004 4:56:13 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Support Bush-Cheney '04)
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To: PhiKapMom
Does anyone have the quote from the hag mattie that said we had a deal but we have to teach them a lesson?
3 posted on 01/25/2004 5:03:51 PM PST by cksharks (quote from)
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To: XHogPilot
..first in his class at West Point, Rhodes scholar, frequently wounded

He must have taken rifle training from Al Gore.

4 posted on 01/25/2004 5:13:18 PM PST by 07055
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To: XHogPilot
A virtual standing ovation on this find. Thanks!
5 posted on 01/25/2004 5:29:43 PM PST by Maria S ("I will do whatever the Americans want…I saw what happened in Iraq, and I was afraid." Gaddafi, 9/03)
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To: 07055
"...first in his class at West Point, Rhodes scholar, frequently wounded...

I read that as meaning his men missed him....several times.

Semper Fi

6 posted on 01/25/2004 5:35:13 PM PST by river rat (Militant Islam is a cult, flirting with extinction)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; FairOpinion; NormsRevenge
Ping whatcha all think? I see this as a damningly great article.Xhog should be commended.
7 posted on 01/25/2004 5:36:56 PM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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To: XHogPilot
One waits for Georgie Joulwan, Clark's predecessor at Southern Command and SAC NATO to comment on why Clark should or should not be considered presidential material.

But then, Georgie is an Officer and a Gentleman, unlike the fruitcake from Arkansas.

8 posted on 01/25/2004 5:37:24 PM PST by leadhead
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To: XHogPilot
Great post, thanks
9 posted on 01/25/2004 5:41:06 PM PST by gatorbait (Yesterday, today and tomorrow......The United States Army)
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To: XHogPilot
The Clinton administration included a baker's dozen outright psychopaths, none worse than Wesley Clark.
10 posted on 01/25/2004 5:41:40 PM PST by greenwolf
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To: Maria S
A virtual standing ovation on this find. Thanks!

Thank you. I'd appreciate a ping to someone you think may also be interested.

11 posted on 01/25/2004 5:51:45 PM PST by XHogPilot
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To: XHogPilot; MeekOneGOP; onyx; My2Cents; JohnHuang2; Dog Gone; Dog; isthisnickcool; OKSooner; VOA; ...
You all need to read this one about Clark!
12 posted on 01/25/2004 6:07:03 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Support Bush-Cheney '04)
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To: RichardW; cake_crumb; BigWaveBetty; cynicom; rintense; leadpenny; Jeff Chandler; expatpat; ...
One ping, and one ping only
13 posted on 01/25/2004 6:07:58 PM PST by XHogPilot
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To: PhiKapMom
Clark has a freaky creepy look in his eyes. I can't be the only one to notice that. He'll never be President.
14 posted on 01/25/2004 6:12:22 PM PST by Dog Gone
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To: river rat
Yeah, I can see this guy as a frag magnet....

(Semper fi to you)

15 posted on 01/25/2004 6:12:25 PM PST by clintonh8r ("Hugh" and "series" are SO last year....)
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To: PhiKapMom
Powerful stuff. This guy is way out there.
He'll never get the Dem nomination, but let's hope whoever does will be dumb enough to pick him as their VP running mate.
Thanks for the ping!
16 posted on 01/25/2004 6:16:14 PM PST by Jorge
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To: XHogPilot
AAAAAAAANT. Wrong answer, but thank you for playing. We won the 1999 war against Serbia and we achieved its aim--sending its genocidal nazi President to prison in the Hague and freeing the people of Kosova from the threat of the kind of GENOCIDE they committed against the Muslims of Bosnia at Srebrenica.

The Euros hate us not for anything Clark (who is human compost but not because of what he did in the Balkans) did, but because we have guns, and cojones, and they don't.
17 posted on 01/25/2004 6:16:33 PM PST by Ronly Bonly Jones (the more things change....)
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To: Dog Gone
Clark doesn't stand a chance -- his eyes give me the creeps as well. I was looking for his campaign contributors and on the website, his picture is of himself in uniform like he is still active duty. Not supposed to use your uniform in partisan politics, but I guess he gets a pass because he is retired?
18 posted on 01/25/2004 6:17:34 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Support Bush-Cheney '04)
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To: Jorge
Like the idea of him as the VP because we can use all of this info we are getting.
19 posted on 01/25/2004 6:18:47 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Support Bush-Cheney '04)
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To: XHogPilot
It was Clark who wanted a more aggressive bombing campaign against the Serbs with his famous quote, "Let's go downtown."
20 posted on 01/25/2004 6:21:24 PM PST by kabar
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To: JohnGalt; ninenot; u-89; sittnick; steve50; Hegemony Cricket; Willie Green; Wolfie; ex-snook; ...
members of Congress who visited Clark at his Brussels headquarters in the early days of the attack on Yugoslavia were startled by his off-the-record comments. If the Russians are going to sail war ships into the combat zone, we should bomb them. If Milosevic is getting oil from the Hungarian pipeline, we should bomb it.

Bump.

21 posted on 01/25/2004 6:23:36 PM PST by A. Pole (pay no attention to the man behind the curtain , the hand of free market must be invisible)
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To: PhiKapMom
Thanks for the ping. I decided a while ago that Clark was nuts and nothing since has given me reason to reconsider.
22 posted on 01/25/2004 6:23:39 PM PST by Dolphy
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To: kabar
http://utenti.lycos.it/Delenda_Carthago/clark_eng.html
23 posted on 01/25/2004 6:26:09 PM PST by kabar
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To: XHogPilot
A virtual standing ovation on this find.

Great work... I'm sending this to all my non-Freeper friends. (from an X-RC135 recon guy)

24 posted on 01/25/2004 6:26:21 PM PST by CommandoFrank (Peer into the depths of hell and there is the face of Islam!)
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To: A. Pole
My God- How insane is Clark? I truly hate to say this- but I actually fear a Clark presidency more than I do a Dean or Hillary presidency. Dean is a Leftie true believer. Hillary is an evil tyrant. But Clark is just plumb insane. I don't want that man anywhere near a center of power.
25 posted on 01/25/2004 6:27:19 PM PST by Burkeman1 ("If you see ten troubles comin down the road, nine will run into the ditch before they reach you")
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To: XHogPilot; SierraWasp; Liz; Grampa Dave; Dog Gone; Dog
Milosevic, smiling broadly, humiliated Clark by returning his hat to him. That helps explain the general's intense personal animosity for the Yugoslav president.

Fantastic post. This info needs to be brought back into the mainstream, although his star seems to be fading right now.

Thanks for the flag PhiKapMom.

26 posted on 01/25/2004 6:29:19 PM PST by BOBTHENAILER (One by one, in small groups or in whole armies, we don't care how we do, but we're gonna getcha)
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To: Burkeman1
Clark is insane. But, despite the polling, his chances of winning the nomination are only slightly better than those of Kucinich. Even the RATS are not stupid enough to nominate him.
27 posted on 01/25/2004 6:31:44 PM PST by 07055
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To: XHogPilot
Thanks for the post Bump!
28 posted on 01/25/2004 6:35:01 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi Mac ...... /~normsrevenge - FoR California Propositions/Initiatives info...)
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To: Dolphy
Am with you -- the more I read, the more convinced I am that he is nuts!
29 posted on 01/25/2004 6:35:40 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Support Bush-Cheney '04)
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To: XHogPilot
Clinton/Albright/Clark prosecuted a war that had not been sanctioned by Congress, or the UN, and had questionable national security interests (http://www.cato.org/dailys/02-11-99.html). "The CIA had warned the Clinton administration that if bombing was initiated, the Serbian army would greatly accelerate its efforts to expel ethnic Albanians. The White House disregarded this warning and feigned surprise when mass expulsions began." (http://www.fff.org/freedom/0101e.asp)

Prior to the war, in Clinton's March 24, 1999 address, he stated the following:

"At the time, many people believed nothing could be done to end the bloodshed in Bosnia. They said, ``Well, that's just the way those people in the Balkans are.'' But when we and our allies joined with courageous Bosnians to stand up to the aggressors, we helped to end the war. We learned that in the Balkans, inaction in the face of brutality, simply invites brutality. But firmness can stop armies and save lives.

"Do our interests in Kosovo justify the dangers to our armed forces? I thought long and hard about that question. I am convinced that the dangers of acting are far outweighed by the dangers of not acting - dangerous to defenseless people and to our national interests.

"If we and our allies were to allow this war to continue with no response, President Milosevic would read our hesitation as a license to kill. There would be many massacres, tens of thousands refugees, victims crying our for revenge. Right now, our firmness is the only hope the people of Kosovo have to be able to live in their own country, without having to fear for their own lives."

Two months later, May 13, 1999, Clinton addressed the Veterans of Foreign Wars at Fort McNair, Washington, DC:

"There are those who say Europe and its North American allies have no business intervening in the ethnic conflicts of the Balkans. They are the inevitable result, these conflicts, according to some, of centuries-old animosity which were unleashed by the end of the Cold War restraints in Yugoslavia and elsewhere. I, myself, have been guilty of saying that on an occasion or two, and I regret it now more than I can say. For I have spent a great deal of time in these last 6 years reading the real history of the Balkans. And the truth is that a lot of what passes for common wisdom in this area is a gross oversimplification and misreading of history."

"The truth is that for centuries these people have lived together in the Balkans and southeastern Europe with greater or lesser degree of tension, but often without anything approaching the intolerable conditions and conflicts that exist today. And we do no favors to ourselves or to the rest of the world when we justify looking away from this kind of slaughter by oversimplifying and conveniently, in our own way, demonizing the whole Balkans by saying that these people are simply incapable of civilized behavior with one another."

"Second, there is -- people say, okay, maybe it's not inevitable, but look, there are a lot of ethnic problems in the world. Russia has dealt with Chechnya, and you've got Abkhazia and Ossetia on the borders of Russia. And you've got all these ethnic problems everywhere, and religious problems. That's what the Middle East is about. You've got Northern Ireland. You've got the horrible, horrible genocide in Rwanda. You've got the war, now, between Eritrea and Ethiopia. They say, 'Oh, we've got all these problems, and, therefore, why do you care about this?'

"I say to them, there is a huge difference between people who can't resolve their problems peacefully and fight about them and people who resort to systematic ethnic cleansing and slaughter of people because of their religious or ethnic background. There is a difference. There is a difference."

The column linked below represents the opposition opinion to the practicality of the goals at the time:

The Road To Hell,
Clinton, Kosovo and good intentions
by Charles Krauthammer
The Washington Post, Editorials
Friday, April 2, 1999; Page A29
http://www.srpska-mreza.com/ddj/Kosovo/articles/WP-Krauthammer.html

Finally, on June 10, 1999, after 79 days of aerial bombardment of civilians and infrastructure - not in Kosovo, but in Serbia - Clinton addressed the nation again:

"When I ordered our armed forces into combat, we had three clear goals: to enable the Kosovar people, the victims of some of the most vicious atrocities in Europe since the Second World War, to return to their homes with safety and self-government; to require Serbian forces responsible for those atrocities to leave Kosovo; and to deploy and international security force, with NATO at its core, to protect all the people of that troubled land -- Serbs and Albanians, alike. Those goals will be achieved. Unnecessary conflict has been brought to a just and honorable conclusion."

"The result will be security and dignity for the people of Kosovo, achieved by an alliance that stood together in purpose and resolve, assisted by the diplomatic efforts of Russia. This victory brings a new hope that when a people are singled out for destruction because of their heritage and religious faith, and we can do something about it, the world will not look the other way."

"My fellow Americans, all these challenges are substantial, but they are far preferable to the challenges of war and continued instability in Europe. We have sent a message of determination and hope to all the world. Think of all the millions of innocent people who died in this bloody century because democracies reacted too late to evil and aggression. Because of our resolve, the 20th century is ending not with helpless indignation, but with a hopeful affirmation of human dignity and human rights for the 21st century."
30 posted on 01/25/2004 6:35:59 PM PST by optimistically_conservative (Currently doctor shopping for my FR addiction)
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To: XHogPilot
How many civilian targets would bombed in Serbia? We never hear this from the self-righteous "anti-war" left. His only target that made sense was the Chinese embassy.
31 posted on 01/25/2004 6:39:03 PM PST by My2Cents ("Failure is not an option.")
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To: Burkeman1
We need to protect our precious bodily fluids
32 posted on 01/25/2004 6:44:41 PM PST by A. Pole (pay no attention to the man behind the curtain , the hand of free market must be invisible)
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To: A. Pole
I have been using the "strangelove" name for Clark for a while- but I didn't create it- I read it somewhere but I forget where.
33 posted on 01/25/2004 6:47:25 PM PST by Burkeman1 ("If you see ten troubles comin down the road, nine will run into the ditch before they reach you")
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To: PhiKapMom; XHogPilot; Peach; Miss Marple
Holy mackeral! I'm practically at a loss for words. Consider the hate filled accusations they fling at President Bush but all the while Weasley and Slick were bombing civilians on purpose.

Criminey.

Prairie
34 posted on 01/25/2004 6:47:29 PM PST by prairiebreeze (God Bless and Protect the Allied Troops. And the families here at home---they are soldiers too.)
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To: XHogPilot
Who is responsible for an air offensive that is building anti-American anger across Europe without breaking the Serbian regime's will? The blame rests heavily on Gen. Wesley Clark, the NATO supreme commander.

Geez, I thought the whole world loved us until W came along!

35 posted on 01/25/2004 6:55:06 PM PST by NYCVirago
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To: XHogPilot
One ping, and one ping only

Hunt for Red October.

36 posted on 01/25/2004 6:55:26 PM PST by farmfriend ( Isaiah 55:10,11)
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To: Burkeman1
I have been using the "strangelove" name for Clark for a while- but I didn't create it- I read it somewhere but I forget where.

The actual character in Dr. Strangelove film was Gen. Jack D. Ripper.

37 posted on 01/25/2004 6:56:42 PM PST by A. Pole (pay no attention to the man behind the curtain , the hand of free market must be invisible)
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To: 07055

38 posted on 01/25/2004 7:00:41 PM PST by annyokie (Wesley Clark: Howard Dean with medals!)
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To: XHogPilot
WoW!
39 posted on 01/25/2004 7:03:56 PM PST by ohioWfan (BUSH 2004 - Leadership, Integrity, Morality)
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To: PhiKapMom
Am I the only one (she asked rhetorically) who is sickened by this "war hero" bullsh*t? Clark and Kerry, FWIW.

Just because Skippy wore a uniform and nearly caused WWIII doesn't make him a hero.
40 posted on 01/25/2004 7:04:21 PM PST by annyokie (Wesley Clark: Howard Dean with medals!)
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To: gatorbait
Idiot Clark almost started World War III with the Russians -- a smarter British commander prevented it.

Here is an article detailing it:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/671495.stm

Thursday, 9 March, 2000, 14:14 GMT
Confrontation over Pristina airport



Nato was taken aback by the Russians' arrival

Details of Russia's surprise occupation of Pristina airport at the end of the Kosovo war are revealed in a new BBC documentary on the conflict.

For the first time, the key players in the tense confrontation between Nato and Russian troops talk about the stand-off which jeopardised the entire peacekeeping mission.


The Russians, who played a crucial role in persuading Yugoslav President Slobodan Milosevic to end the war, had expected to police their own sector of Kosovo, independent of Nato.

When they did not get it, they felt double-crossed.

As Nato's K-For peacekeepers prepared to enter the province on 12 June, they discovered the Russians had got there first.

A contingent of 200 troops, stationed in Bosnia, was already rolling towards Pristina airport.

'Third World War'

General Wesley Clark, Nato's supreme commander, immediately ordered 500 British and French paratroopers to be put on standby to occupy the airport.

''I called the [Nato] Secretary General [Javier Solana] and told him what the circumstances were,'' General Clark tells the BBC programme Moral Combat: Nato at War.

''He talked about what the risks were and what might happen if the Russian's got there first, and he said: 'Of course you have to get to the airport'.



General Jackson: Backed by UK Government

''I said: 'Do you consider I have the authority to do so?' He said: 'Of course you do, you have transfer of authority'.''

But General Clark's plan was blocked by General Sir Mike Jackson, K-For's British commander.

"I'm not going to start the Third World War for you," he reportedly told General Clark during one heated exchange.

General Jackson tells the BBC: ''We were [looking at] a possibility....of confrontation with the Russian contingent which seemed to me probably not the right way to start off a relationship with Russians who were going to become part of my command.''

Russian plans

The Russian advance party took the airport unopposed. The world watched nervously.

A senior Russian officer, General Leonid Ivashev, tells the BBC how the Russians had plans to fly in thousands of troops.

''Let's just say that we had several airbases ready. We had battalions of paratroopers ready to leave within two hours,'' he said.

Amid fears that Russian aircraft were heading for Pristina, General Clark planned to order British tanks and armoured cars to block the runways to prevent any transport planes from landing.

General Clark said he believed it was ''an appropriate course of action''. But the plan was again vetoed by Britain.

Partition fears

Instead, he asked neighbouring countries, including Hungary and Romania not to allow Russian aircraft to overfly their territory.



Russians are not under direct Nato command

During the stand-off, Moscow insisted its troops would be answerable only to its own commanders.

Nato refused to accept this, predicting it would lead to the partition of Kosovo into an ethnic Albanian south and a Serbian north.

A deal on the deployment of Russian peacekeepers was reached in early July.

The Russians now operate as part of K-For in sectors controlled by Nato states, but are not directly under Nato's command.

41 posted on 01/25/2004 7:07:10 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: Dog Gone
Many of us think that he has a strange"look".
42 posted on 01/25/2004 7:12:03 PM PST by MEG33
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To: PhiKapMom
But members of Congress who visited Clark at his Brussels headquarters in the early days of the attack on Yugoslavia were startled by his off-the-record comments. If the Russians are going to sail war ships into the combat zone, we should bomb them. If Milosevic is getting oil from the Hungarian pipeline, we should bomb it.

HOLY COW!

BTW .. wasn't it this war that the China Embassy was hit and a number of people were killed?

43 posted on 01/25/2004 7:14:09 PM PST by Mo1 (Join the dollar a day crowd now!)
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To: river rat
I should not have laughed..I laughed.LOL
44 posted on 01/25/2004 7:14:30 PM PST by MEG33
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To: gatorbait
Thanks for the ping. Was there even a pressing need to engage in that war in fhe first place? I know Clinton said something about "the children of Europe" in justifying this war.
45 posted on 01/25/2004 7:25:30 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Death is certain; little chance of success; what are we waiting for???)
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To: Mo1
This was the war -- said they were using maps that were out of date and in the process the Chinese Embassy was bombed.

It was also the war where one of the people (Civilian with a British accent) said at the NATO Briefing (I wish I could remember who it was) that the Stealth Fighter had properties that made it invisible to the naked eye. I can remember sitting in my family room laughing. It is virtually invisible to radar but any person can see the plane. Believe it was Shea with a General standing next to him -- just not for sure but the briefer had a British accent and the general was American. Wish I knew if it was Clark or not.
46 posted on 01/25/2004 7:29:32 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Support Bush-Cheney '04)
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To: PhiKapMom
Oh wow .. I can picture the face, but I can't think of his name

You know this is going to drive me nuts now .. guess I need to google some more *L*
47 posted on 01/25/2004 7:33:01 PM PST by Mo1 (Join the dollar a day crowd now!)
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To: annyokie
You and me both are totally disgusted with those two lowlifes now using their time in the military. Another thing -- Clark's wife wouldn't let him go to work for a defense contractor that built weapon systems. That spoke volumes to me.

Kerry is nothing more than a traitor in my book for what he did against our military that was still in Vietnam with his leading the Veterans against the War movement that prolonged the war because the Viet Cong thought if they held out long enough, America would lose resolve to fight. You know what -- they were right thanks to the likes of Kerry, Fonda, and Ramsey and a host of others who forgot we had men fighting and dying in a foreign country.
48 posted on 01/25/2004 7:35:26 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Support Bush-Cheney '04)
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To: XHogPilot
Excellent repost.
Well worth going back sometimes.
49 posted on 01/25/2004 7:36:04 PM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: Mo1
I know the feeling!
50 posted on 01/25/2004 7:36:50 PM PST by PhiKapMom (AOII Mom -- Support Bush-Cheney '04)
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