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Al Qaeda again threatens New York, Washington and Los Angeles (thread 2) Daily Terror Threat
DEBKA ^ | 11/03/03

Posted on 01/26/2004 1:01:03 PM PST by Mossad1967

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Al Qaeda again threatens New York, Washington and Los Angeles

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TOPICS: News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: informative; links; terrorism; threatmatrix
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To: Sidebar Moderator
We then invited participants to start a new thread.

But in Chat?! . This is a thread for WOT with alot of hardworking man hours by people who post information, translations, articles, government info etc. This thread has been informative for so many people and the survival tips have been invaluable. Chat? . That is the Inult

221 posted on 01/26/2004 6:19:59 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican BUT Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: Labyrinthos
Since we can chat now, how does one find the root drive or anything else that may have been accessed by someone very undesirable. I certainly wouldn't want any of these guys to have my address etc.
222 posted on 01/26/2004 6:20:42 PM PST by WestCoastGal ("Hire paranoids, they may have a high false alarm rate, but they discover all the plots" Rumsfeld)
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To: JustPiper
I will not whine public, I will not insult anything, but I will express my disappointment at being moved to "Chat".

Ditto.

223 posted on 01/26/2004 6:21:10 PM PST by mhking
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To: MamaDearest
In outlying areas, say 50-150 miles away, would radiation fallout permeate canned foods?

In general radiation won't damage canned goods - but if you think that the surface of the can might be contaminated, wash it off before opening it.

Of course if the can gets hot enough to damage the seal that's a different question - but that would be heat, not radiation. There's also some question about what happens to food that's heavily irradiated - some scientists think that some of the high-energy radiation may in some cases cause undesirable chemical (not radiological) changes in the food - that's part of the controversy about the safety of preserving food by irradating it. If there's an effect there it's in the category of things where you want to avoid long-term exposure, not that would be immediately dangerous.

Fresh foods would be much more problematic - also canned foods that were canned within the area that had been irradiated but after the radiation leak. Milk is a particular concern after major radiation leakage.

224 posted on 01/26/2004 6:21:53 PM PST by brucecw
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To: FairOpinion
A lot of controversy surrounding David Kay. IMO I'm still awaiting more news. Many, even on the Republican side happen to have the utmost faith in Kay. And of course the media is not talking about the things he 'did' say in Bush's behalf.
225 posted on 01/26/2004 6:21:58 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican BUT Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: JustPiper
I think David Kay is OK -- but the media is distorting what he is saying.

Kay said there weren't massive amounts of WMD, but he also said, he thought they were taken to Syria -- most of the media avoids reporting the second part.
226 posted on 01/26/2004 6:23:48 PM PST by FairOpinion
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To: Domestic Church
I was so upset when I saw Thread Locked for I knew she and the whiner's won and I guess it is because things like the following are more important than the WOT? -g-

Parrot's oratory stuns scientists ^
Posted by mercy to Tolerance Sucks Rocks
On News/Activism ^ 01/26/2004 8:22:36 PM
227 posted on 01/26/2004 6:24:27 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican BUT Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: liberallyconservative
The only thing I saw on OakRidge were the warnings on NIN
228 posted on 01/26/2004 6:25:48 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican BUT Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: FairOpinion
I would think the threads heavy with gifs load the system down, I know some threads take forever to load with pics.
229 posted on 01/26/2004 6:26:50 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican BUT Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: JustPiper
Chat?

Wait till you find out that Chat isn't actually the end of the world!

230 posted on 01/26/2004 6:30:42 PM PST by HairOfTheDog
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How cool is this?

Fake fog could defend nuclear plants

18:18 12 January 04

NewScientist.com news service

Clouds of artificial fog could be used to defend nuclear power stations against airborne terrorist attacks under proposals currently being considered in Germany.

A spokeswoman at Germany's Federal Environment Ministry confirmed that the companies that operate the country's 18 nuclear power stations are assessing the installation of artificial fog machines as a defence against suicide attacks from the air, alongside other possibilities.

Under the proposal, "a nuclear power plant under attack is surrounded within seconds by an artificial, dense wall of fog", reads a statement from the ministry.

Fog or smoke would disguise a power station's location from the air. Although radar can penetrate fog, commercial aircraft are not fitted with radar systems capable of identifying structures on the ground.

http://www.newscientist.com/news/news.jsp?id=ns99994557
231 posted on 01/26/2004 6:31:15 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican BUT Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: FairOpinion
Now everyone has it "adjusted" in a way

So correct. Fine-tuning one's perception to the necessarily high S-N ration when piecing together nuances and strange synchronicities ain't for everyone. Being receptive to true signal that SOUNDS like noise and vice-versa is difficult.

Think it'll be easier over here, without the 'why are you in BN' interruptions.

232 posted on 01/26/2004 6:32:09 PM PST by txhurl
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To: Calpernia; piasa; backhoe; All
THE FOLLOWING PRESS RELEASE IS AN EXACT QUOTE:

http://www.fbi.gov/congress/congress04/bucella012604.htm

January 26, 2004





Statement
of
Donna A. Bucella
Director
Terrorist Screening Center



Before the
National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States



 




Good morning Chairman Kean, Vice Chairman Hamilton, and members of the Commission. Thank you for this opportunity to discuss the mission and objectives of the new Terrorist Screening Center (TSC). The TSC was created to ensure that government investigators, screeners, agents and state and local law enforcement officers have ready access to the information and expertise they need to respond quickly when a suspected terrorist is screened or stopped. The TSC will consolidate access to terrorist watch lists from multiple agencies and provide 24/7 operational support for thousands of federal screeners and state and local law enforcement officers across the country and around the world. When fully operational, the TSC will dramatically increase our ability to ensure that federal, state, and local officials are working off of the same unified, comprehensive set of anti-terrorist information.


This is an enormous task, and it requires cooperation and coordination from multiple agencies. Pursuant to Homeland Security Presidential Directive 6, (HSPD 6), the FBI administers the TSC with the support from the Intelligence Community, the Department of Justice, the Department of Homeland Security, and the Department of State. The Department of Justice, the Department of Homeland Security, and the Department of State have representatives assigned to the TSC, and each is responsible for specific aspects of the TSC's mission.


TSC Capabilities


Under its implementing agreement, TSC, through the FBI, was required to achieve an initial operating capability on December 1, 2003 -- only 75 days from its inception on September 16, 2003. This milestone was achieved and since December 1, 2003, TSC has been providing key resources for screeners and law enforcement personnel. These include:


(1) a single coordination point for terrorist screening data;

a consolidated 24/7 call center for encounter identification assistance;

a coordinated law enforcement response to federal, state and local law enforcement; and,

a formal process for tracking encounters and ensuring feedback is supplied to the appropriate entities.



The TSC's initial capabilities are limited due to the need to integrate records in a way that ensures that the data about suspected terrorists is as accurate as possible. Each agency contributing data to the TSC is using its own database. These databases, which were created to support the mission of the individual agencies, are in many instances, their case management systems, not terrorist watch lists.


The TSC has approached the challenge to consolidate terrorists watch lists by implementing a "phased in" approach. Since December 1, 2003, the TSC has had the ability to: (1) make the names and identifying information of terrorists, known to or suspected by the U.S. Government, accessible to federal, state and local law enforcement; (2) have a system for properly reviewing whether a known or suspected terrorist should be included in or deleted from additional screening processes; (3) administer a process to ensure that persons, who may share a name with a known or suspected terrorist, are not unduly inconvenienced in U.S. Government screening processes; and, (4) implement a system to adjust or delete outdated or incorrect information to prevent problems arising from misidentifications.


By this summer, TSC will have a single, consolidated Terrorist Screening Database (TSDB). Before the end of this year, the TSC will create a more dynamic database and use a single, integrated system for ensuring known or suspected terrorists' identities are promptly incorporated into all appropriate screening processes. The terrorist screening database will allow private sector entities, such as operators of critical infrastructure facilities or organizers of large events, to submit a list of persons to the U.S. Government to identify possible terrorists. In addition, the TSC will begin to implement mechanisms for sharing terrorist screening information with cooperating countries. The Department of State is currently working on this issue.


Consolidated Terrorist Screening Database


The consolidated Terrorist Screening Database (TSDB) will be a continuously updated, unclassified law enforcement sensitive database, containing identifying information of all known or suspected terrorists.


The TSC allows the consolidation of disparate information, currently held by multiple agencies and used in different ways, to be brought together for a single purpose -- To help identify and detain potential terrorists to prevent future terrorist attacks.


The TSC will receive the vast majority of its information about known or suspected international terrorists from the Terrorist Threat Integration Center (TTIC), which will assemble and analyze information from a wide range of sources to identify potential terrorists. The FBI will provide the TSC with information about purely domestic terrorism – that is, information that has been determined to have no link to foreign intelligence, counterintelligence, or international terrorism. The TSC will then consolidate this identifying information from these records and make it accessible for queries from federal, state, and local agencies for screening purposes.


When a nomination is received at the TSC, it is reviewed by assignees to the TSC from participating agencies, who, in consultation with their assigning member agencies, determine how an encounter with this individual will be handled. The system is tailored to give different instructions depending on where the encounter takes place. For example, an FBI representative who reviews a record may determine that an individual is subject to a criminal warrant and needs to be detained by state and local law enforcement, while the Transportation Security Administration (TSA) representative may decide that the individual is to be placed on the "No-fly" list. This tailoring ensures that specific instructions are provided to federal, state, and local agencies based on their legal authority.


Currently, most calls to the TSC come from Customs and Border Protection based on encounters made at our borders. Other inquiries are made by state and local police departments and the Department of State's Bureau of Consular Affairs.


Let me take a moment to describe for you the typical process for a TSC inquiry. When a passenger arrives in the United States and he is a possible match to the TSC record, Customs and Border Protection contacts the TSC for assistance in the identification process. The TSC, taking advantage of its electronic access to all of the information contained in the FBI and the Terrorist Threat Integration Center (TTIC) databases, attempts to determine if the person is a positive or negative match to the record. All positive or inconclusive matches are then passed to the FBI Counterterrorism Watch (CT Watch) for follow-up action, and the results of the follow-up are then shared with and communicated back to the originating agency. This action includes the review of sensitive information to assist the officer and provides instruction to that officer as to how the person should be handled. For example, the officer may be instructed-- in appropriate and lawfully authorized circumstances -- to arrest, detain or question the individual. The Counterterrorism Watch simultaneously coordinates with the Joint Terrorism Task Force (JTTF) within that area of concern for the coordinating law enforcement response. The results of the follow-up are then shared with and communicated back to the originating agency.


In the case of a police inquiry, the TSC receives a call from a local police department. By querying the National Crime Information Center (NCIC) database which contains an instruction to contact the TSC, for the first time, a local police officer who pulls an individual over during a routine traffic stop will now know if the person encountered is a known or suspected terrorist. If there is a positive or inconclusive identification match, the TSC follows its procedure and telephonically conferences in the FBI's Counterterrorism Watch for specific instructions about appropriate action that may be taken. Such specific instructions may include -- in appropriate and lawfully authorized circumstances -- arresting, detaining, or questioning the individual. Lastly, the FBI's Counterterrorism Watch reports the final case resolution to the TSC, and the TSC's call center then facilitates feedback to the Terrorist Threat Integration Center (TTIC) and appropriate agencies. As a result, the originating agencies' file will constantly be updated with fresh and pertinent information for further analysis by that agency.


Safeguarding Civil Liberties


We recognize that with all of these capabilities also comes the responsibility to ensure that we continue to protect our civil liberties.


The TSC has absolutely no independent authority to conduct intelligence collection or other operations. In fact, the TSC does not collect information at all – it only receives information collected by other entities with preexisting authority to do so, each with their own policies and procedures to protect privacy rights and civil liberties. The handling and use of information, including U.S. person information, is governed by the same statutory, regulatory, and constitutional requirements as if the information was not to be included in a TSC-managed database.


The TSC's primary mission is to ensure that the identities data that is already known to the U.S. Government is held in one location where it can be queried by those who need it, including federal security screeners and state and local law enforcement officers. The structures which are in place also ensure that information about U.S. persons that has been determined to be purely domestic terrorism information with no link to foreign intelligence, counterintelligence, or international terrorism does not go through the Terrorist Threat Integration Center, but instead is placed directly into the TSC by the FBI. The Attorney General has also been directed to implement procedures and safeguards with respect to information about U.S. persons, in coordination with the Secretary of State, the Secretary of Homeland Security, and the Director of Central Intelligence.


We are also committed to addressing the issues and inconveniences arising from the misidentification of persons under previous watchlisting practices. Procedures are in place to review and promptly adjust or delete erroneous or outdated information, and several such records have already been identified, and updated or removed. In addition, we are currently in the process of creating the Office of Ombudsman to handle the misidentification process for the TSC.


The creation of the Terrorist Screening Center marks a significant step forward in protecting America's communities and families by detecting, disrupting, or preempting terrorist threats. The TSC builds on the improvements to U.S. watch list capabilities that began following the horrific September 11th attacks. The TSC is already contributing to nationwide efforts to keep terrorists out of the U.S. and locate those who may already be in the country. The TSC will be able to fulfill this mission more effectively and efficiently after we achieve full operating capability later this year. I appreciate the Commission's interest in the TSC's activities and the work all of you are doing. I would be happy to answer any questions the Commission may have.






| 2004 Congressional Statement | FBI Home Page |
233 posted on 01/26/2004 6:32:10 PM PST by Cindy
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To: FairOpinion
so why doesn't the administration put Kay in front of the media at a press conference to lay it all out?
234 posted on 01/26/2004 6:32:38 PM PST by oceanview
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To: FairOpinion
I'm sure you're right.
235 posted on 01/26/2004 6:33:27 PM PST by Cindy
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To: JustPiper
I like science.
236 posted on 01/26/2004 6:34:29 PM PST by Cindy
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To: tubavil
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2004/01/25/wirq25.xml&sSheet=/news/2004/01/25/ixnewstop.html"
Saddam's WMD hidden in Syria, says Iraq survey chief
15,367 posted on 01/26/2004 3:38:18 AM CST by Pro-Bush

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1065211/posts?page=87#87
15,368 posted on 01/26/2004 3:46:34 AM CST by FairOpinion

Going through a ton of mistaken mail and sae DaDa is a popular lil boy -g-

1 Daleel_and_Eom
This is a place to discuss the alleged al-Qa`eda message board posters Daleel_Almojahid and EOM. This community is free and open for all. No post will be deleted, And no members will be booted out of the community unless you are soooooo disruptive that we all can not live with you.

2.eom_and_daleel
This is a place to discuss the alleged al-Qa`eda message board posters EOM and Daleel al-Mohajid. If you know of other alleged al-Qa`eda posters, we can discuss them here. A Quote to Remember "each day that goes by not attacked ( at least all out) is good. but each day that goes by brings it one day closer too." -- n60w149 -->

3 eomdaleel
Alternate forum for discussing EOM and Daleel

4 eom_and_daleel2
This is a place to discuss the alleged al-Qa`eda message board posters EOM and Daleel al-Mohajid. If you know of other alleged al-Qa`eda posters, we can discuss them here.

15,372 posted on 01/26/2004 4:33:47 AM CST by JustPiper
237 posted on 01/26/2004 6:34:44 PM PST by JustPiper (Register Republican BUT Write-In Tancredo for March !!!!)
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To: Sabertooth
A curse upon every grain of his sand

And may he be slapped by the entire contents of Imelda Marcos closet.

238 posted on 01/26/2004 6:35:03 PM PST by Oorang ( "If you see a bomb technician running, try to keep up with him." U.S.A.F. Ammo Troop)
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To: Revel
Well at least he is saying we have a few weeks left. Sounds like he is admitting that nothing is going to happen soon.

WELL...if that's the case, then the "countdown clock" is bunk, no?

239 posted on 01/26/2004 6:35:58 PM PST by jstolzen
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To: JustPiper
Yeah, thank God we made room on the front page for such earth shattering information!
240 posted on 01/26/2004 6:36:31 PM PST by thecabal
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