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John Kerry's war record
Washington Times Letter to the editor ^ | Fri Dec 13 2002 | MICHAEL BENGE

Posted on 01/26/2004 9:21:40 PM PST by restornu

As Sen. John Kerry, Massachusetts Democrat, considers a bid for the White House, Americans should know a few things about him that he might prefer go unmentioned ? and I don't mean his $75 haircuts.

When Mr. Kerry pontificated at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial on Veterans Day, a group of veterans turned their backs on him and walked away. They remembered Mr. Kerry as the anti-war activist who testified before Congress during the war, accusing veterans of being war criminals.

The dust jacket of Mr. Kerry's pro-Hanoi book, "The New Soldier," features a photograph of his ragged band of radicals mocking the U.S. Marine Corps Memorial, which depicts the flag-raising on Iwo Jima, with an upside-down American flag.

Retired Gen. George S. Patton III charged that Mr. Kerry's actions as an anti-war activist had "given aid and comfort to the enemy," as had the actions of Ramsey Clark and Jane Fonda. Also, Mr. Kerry lied when he threw what he claimed were his war medals over the White House fence; he later admitted they weren't his.

Now they are displayed on his office wall. Long after he changed sides in congressional hearings, Mr. Kerry lobbied for renewed trade relations with Hanoi.

At the same time, his cousin C.Stewart Forbes, chief executive for Colliers International, assisted in brokering a $905 million deal to develop a deep-sea port at Vung Tau, Vietnam ?

An odd coincidence.

As noted in the Inside Politics column of Nov. 14 (Nation), historian Douglas Brinkley is writing Mr. Kerry's biography. Hopefully, he'll include the senator's latest ignominious feat: preventing the Vietnam Human Rights Act (HR2833) from coming to a vote in the Senate, claiming human rights would deteriorate as a result. His actions sent a clear signal to Hanoi that Congress cares little about the human rights for which so many Americans fought and died.

The State Department ranked Vietnam among the 10 regimes worldwide least tolerant of religious freedom. Recently, 354 churches of the Montagnards, a Christian ethnic minority, were forcibly disbanded, and by mid-October, more than 50 Christian pastors and elders had been arrested in Dak Lak province alone.

On Oct. 29, the secret police executed three Montagnards by lethal injection simply for protesting religious repression. The communists are conducting a pogrom against the Montagnards, forcing Christians to drink a mixture of goat's blood and alcohol and renounce Christianity.

Thousands have been killed or imprisoned or have just "disappeared." The Montagnards lost one-half of their adult male population fighting for the United States, and without them, there might be thousands more American names on that somber black granite wall at the Vietnam memorial.

As Mr. Kerry contemplates a run for the presidency, people must remember that he has fought harder for Hanoi as an anti-war activist and a senator than he did against the Vietnamese communists while serving in the Navy in Vietnam.

MICHAEL BENGE Foreign Service officer and former Vietnam POW (1968 to 1973)


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: 2004; johnkerry; kerry; psuedohero; vietnam; vvaw
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Isn't it interesting the So called Ameican media nation wide fails again to inform the Amercian citizen!
1 posted on 01/26/2004 9:21:40 PM PST by restornu
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CTR
2 posted on 01/26/2004 9:22:11 PM PST by restornu ( "Faith...is daring the soul to go beyond what the eyes refuse to see."J.R.R. Tolkien)
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To: restornu
Isn't it interesting the So called Ameican media nation wide fails again to inform the Amercian citizen

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It's not interesting. It's a fact of life many in the media and educational establishment were working to see that the communists won in Viet Nam and are still working to rationalize that position. Kerry is part of that coalition, as are the Clintons.

3 posted on 01/26/2004 9:31:34 PM PST by RLK
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To: restornu; prairiebreeze
When Mr. Kerry pontificated at the Vietnam Veterans Memorial on Veterans Day, a group of veterans turned their backs on him and walked away

That speaks Volumes !

4 posted on 01/26/2004 9:32:52 PM PST by Mo1 (Join the dollar a day crowd now!)
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To: restornu
John Kerry's war record

John Kerry was in a war?

Which one???

5 posted on 01/26/2004 9:37:40 PM PST by RWR8189 (Its Morning in America Again!)
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To: Mo1
More information about Kerry here (especially about his anti-Vietnam War stances):

What You Don't Know about John Kerry

6 posted on 01/26/2004 9:38:22 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: RWR8189
Vietnam Veterans Against John Kerry
7 posted on 01/26/2004 9:40:58 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation
What amazing me is that Kerry and some in the media think they can hide his past and complain that we are questioning his service in the war

HEY KERRY .. No one is questions your service .. We are questioning you actions after the war and how you spit on your fellow soldiers

8 posted on 01/26/2004 9:42:42 PM PST by Mo1 (Join the dollar a day crowd now!)
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To: RWR8189
Which one? War or Kerry? LOL!



9 posted on 01/26/2004 9:43:12 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation
Now I know how wide wide his face would heve to be to make it proportional to it's length. Thanks.
10 posted on 01/26/2004 9:48:36 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter
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To: restornu
Bump
11 posted on 01/26/2004 9:51:35 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi Mac ...... /~normsrevenge - FoR California Propositions/Initiatives info...)
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To: gov_bean_ counter; Mo1
Have you seen this one?

Kerry shaking hands with Daniel Ortega as Senator and Mrs. Tom Harkin look on.

12 posted on 01/26/2004 9:53:25 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: restornu; RLK; RWR8189; Salvation
If this nation can elect a draft dodger you think the vast majority would hate Kerry for serving and trying to bring Americans home from a war that was unpopular? We need to defeat him on his record. Everytime we bring this up it makes our side look bad. None of our Republican candidates have seen combat and Cheney never served.

Kerry and Clark earned their 'Nam medals and Kerry had every right to demonstrate against the war. He earned that right and he did it in the open unlike Clinton who went off shore to protest. We need to get Clark and Kerry on the modern day issues. Clark and Kerry have to be defeated on ideas.

Kerry scares the White House and it should. Fight smart. This startegy of attack on this issue is bad one.

13 posted on 01/26/2004 9:54:00 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Salvation
And they Dems can put up a picture of Rumsfeld meeting Saddam or of a Suadi prince with Bush. FIGHT SMART.
14 posted on 01/26/2004 9:55:48 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
You do have a valid point here.

However, a mindset from the past does not disappear from the present or infiltrate the future.
15 posted on 01/26/2004 9:56:12 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Destro
"As a man thinketh, so is he."
16 posted on 01/26/2004 9:57:12 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Destro
I really wonder if they really did earn their medals or it was reward for being moles?
17 posted on 01/26/2004 9:58:04 PM PST by restornu ( "Faith...is daring the soul to go beyond what the eyes refuse to see."J.R.R. Tolkien)
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To: Destro
Kerry and Clark earned their 'Nam medals and Kerry had every right to demonstrate against the war.

First .. Clark as more of a leg to stand on this issue then Kerry does on many levels

Second .. the fact that Kerry protest against this war is not the issue or why many Vietnam Vets are ticked off at him

It's the fact that instead of protesting against the government and the war .. He accused he fellow soldiers of being criminals ..

What Kerry did was spit on his fellow soldiers for what he said in his speech before Congress

Yes, I agree this should not be the focus of why Kerry shouldn't be elected .. But at the same time it can not be ignored

18 posted on 01/26/2004 10:01:36 PM PST by Mo1 (Join the dollar a day crowd now!)
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To: Salvation
Yes I have ... and he's proud of that too
19 posted on 01/26/2004 10:02:13 PM PST by Mo1 (Join the dollar a day crowd now!)
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To: restornu
Kerry won his medals legit. We are talking hand to hand combat.
20 posted on 01/26/2004 10:09:11 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Mo1
Second .. the fact that Kerry protest against this war is not the issue or why many Vietnam Vets are ticked off at him

It's the fact that instead of protesting against the government and the war .. He accused he fellow soldiers of being criminals ..

How so?

21 posted on 01/26/2004 10:10:14 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
Kerry won his medals legit. We are talking hand to hand combat.

Source?

22 posted on 01/26/2004 10:10:17 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
You are kidding me right?
23 posted on 01/26/2004 10:10:56 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
You're kidding right??

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1061806/posts
Testifying before the Senate Foreign Relations Committee on April 23, 1971, Kerry claimed that U.S. soldiers had “raped, cut off ears, cut off heads, taped wires from portable telephones to human genitals and turned up the power, cut off limbs, blown up bodies, randomly shot at civilians, razed villages, shot cattle and dogs for fun, poisoned food stocks, and generally ravaged the countryside of South Vietnam.”
24 posted on 01/26/2004 10:12:56 PM PST by Mo1 (Join the dollar a day crowd now!)
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To: Destro
You are kidding me right?

Not at all. I spent about 2 hours on google looking for details behind his medals. I could find nothing beyond the simple statement that he was awarded them. I did find one article in which his CO stated that Kerry acted recklessly and put his boat and crew in unnecessary danger and that the enemy soldier he took the rocket launcher from was already incapacitated from heavy fire from the boat and that Kerry provide the "Coup De Gra". So I repeat, source?

25 posted on 01/26/2004 10:16:23 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
Thanks a lot for making me go on his website. Again I keep warning you people this line of attack makes Kerry look good and our side look bad: Kerry entered the Navy after graduation, becoming a Swift Boat officer, serving on a gunboat in the Mekong Delta in Vietnam. He received a Silver Star, Bronze Star with Combat V, and three awards of the Purple Heart for his service in combat.
26 posted on 01/26/2004 10:18:09 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
Nice site Kerry has .. but it reminds me of Hellary's book

Though he tells the truth .. he also leaves gapping holes when it comes to telling the whole truth

27 posted on 01/26/2004 10:22:50 PM PST by Mo1 (Join the dollar a day crowd now!)
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To: Mo1
All that is false? What will Joe Blow American think? After movies like "Platoon"? John Wayne's "Green Berets" is not that familiar to Americans these days. Secondly, he said what he said in the open. While that statement may turn off many Americans many other Americans will say this guy has the guts to stand up and go on record. I say again this line of attack is dangerous. Kerry is already planning to take out Bush via the military record and even though he is a Dukakis at heart he has the medals to not look silly in a helmet.
28 posted on 01/26/2004 10:22:54 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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http://www.usvetdsp.com/jf_kerry.htm Kerry was given a Silver Star for an action on February 28, 1969: When Kerry's Patrol Craft Fast 94 received a B-40 rocket shot from shore, he hot dogged his craft beaching it in the center of the enemy position. To his surprise, an enemy soldier sprang up from a hole not ten feet from Patrol Craft 94 and fled. The boat's machine gunner hit and wounded the fleeing Viet Cong as he darted behind a hootch. The twin .50s gunner fired at the Viet Cong. He said he "laid 50 rounds" into the hootch before Kerry leaped from the boat and dashed in to administer a "coup de grace" to the wounded Viet Cong. Kerry returned with the B-40 rocket and launcher..
29 posted on 01/26/2004 10:23:28 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Destro
Current information is what you want, huh?

How about the 82 votes he missed on the Senate floor last year?

Howie Carr has the source on his website.
30 posted on 01/26/2004 10:25:54 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Destro
I never stated it should be the main focus of attacks by Bush .. I said it shouldn't be ignored by the media/press

As for Kerry's words ... you may think spitting on our soldiers is fine ... But it's not ok with me and many many others .. especially Vets
31 posted on 01/26/2004 10:26:27 PM PST by Mo1 (Join the dollar a day crowd now!)
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To: Mo1; Texasforever
I will say no more on this subject if I can help it. I do not wish to point anything else out and get Kerry's name even more out there and Texasforever unless you are ready to argue that Kerry got his medals the same way Pvt Jessica Lynch did-because of cuteness the official reasons for his medals stands. In additon 3 Purple Hearts is nothing to sneaze at. He bled. He served. Was he Alexander the Great crossing the Hellespont? No. But what will the war record be on the side he will face?

CAMPAIGN SMART.

32 posted on 01/26/2004 10:27:58 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Mo1
He spit? Actual spit?
33 posted on 01/26/2004 10:28:30 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
Dukakis at heart he has the medals to not look silly in a helmet.

That would be extremely foolish for Lurch since he has already been shown to be a liar concerning his disposition of those medals on his return from the Nam. His 3 "Purple Hearts" are also a bit overblown. He was "wounded" 3 times but none serious enough to keep him from active duty. He then used the 3 PHs to gain early release from service.

34 posted on 01/26/2004 10:29:50 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Texasforever
Sounds brave to me. Even daring. Sounds like he commanded a tight ship and captained a good and sharp crew.
35 posted on 01/26/2004 10:30:24 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
How about this record? Kerry is a Catholic in name only.

Catholics and Politicians:

The Deadly Dozen

Blood On Their Hands: Exposing Pro-abortion Catholic Politicians

Kerry [Catholic} says he'll filibuster Supreme Court nominees who do not support abortion rights

PETITION TO EX-COMMUNICATE PRO-ABORTION CATHOLIC ELECTED OFFICIALS

Catholics Kerry and Kennedy have a 100% Pro-homosexual Record with the Human Rights Campaign! Page 10,11

Kerry says he alone hasn't 'played games' on abortion

36 posted on 01/26/2004 10:30:42 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation
I am not Catholic.
37 posted on 01/26/2004 10:31:38 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
He spit? Actual spit?

Cute ... You know what I was talking about

38 posted on 01/26/2004 10:32:50 PM PST by Mo1 (Join the dollar a day crowd now!)
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To: RWR8189
I feel good about the fact that WE'RE not into personal attacks. That's what the other guys resort to, right?
39 posted on 01/26/2004 10:32:57 PM PST by kiki p
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To: Mo1
No I don't. We will no one with such statements. We will sound like kooks to the average American who will not have made up his mind.
40 posted on 01/26/2004 10:33:56 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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Private Lynch is not running for Prsident. Kerry has built his entire campaign on his "heroics" in Viet Nam. Once you do that then you had damn well be prepared to live up to the image. There is a LOT to be skeptical about with this guy especially his conduct after using a loophole to get out early and his subsequent embrace of enemy sympathizers.
41 posted on 01/26/2004 10:34:32 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Destro
But I know you care about issues and morals and values.
42 posted on 01/26/2004 10:34:43 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Mo1
No I don't. We will win no one over with such statements - meant to tupe. We will sound like kooks to the average American who will not have made up his mind.
43 posted on 01/26/2004 10:35:02 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
No what he sounds like is guy that takes credit for a "kill" his machine gunner had already made.
44 posted on 01/26/2004 10:36:28 PM PST by Texasforever
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To: Salvation
Yes I am pro life. I respect the Catholic church as a foundation of Western European civilization (as is Protestantisim-I won't leave them out). Actually in the heat of the moment typed quick. His anti-values agenda is a good way to attack Kerry. My apologies.
45 posted on 01/26/2004 10:36:53 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Destro
We will sound like kooks to the average American who will not have made up his mind.

Hmmm .. we sounds like kooks and Kerry sounds like the good guy with his speech before Congress??

46 posted on 01/26/2004 10:38:03 PM PST by Mo1 (Join the dollar a day crowd now!)
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To: Texasforever
That is a petty and Clintonian approach to politics. The man deserved that medal and his crew served him well.
47 posted on 01/26/2004 10:38:32 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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To: Mo1
This may shock you - but many Americans think that is what happened in Vietnam.
48 posted on 01/26/2004 10:40:03 PM PST by Destro (Know your enemy! Help fight Islamic terrorism by visiting www.johnathangaltfilms.com)
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Yes I am pro life. I respect the Catholic church as a foundation of Western European civilization (as is Protestantisim-I won't leave them out).

I think the key word there is "respect" .. something Kerry obviously doesn't have

49 posted on 01/26/2004 10:41:04 PM PST by Mo1 (Join the dollar a day crowd now!)
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To: Destro
The man deserved that medal and his crew served him well.

No he deserved a court martial for running his boat aground and placing his entire crew in a position to be a sitting duck.

50 posted on 01/26/2004 10:41:48 PM PST by Texasforever
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