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'Illegal': Slur or accurate label?
Atlanta Journal Constitution ^ | 1/28/04 | Rick Badie

Posted on 01/28/2004 7:35:34 PM PST by NortNork

'Undocumented' preferred by some for certain immigrants; others see cover-up

By RICK BADIE The Atlanta Journal-Constitution

For Jerry Gonzalez, the term "illegal immigrant" packs as much vitriol as some racial slurs.

Many Latinos, he said, find it offensive.

"It's easy to dismiss someone when you use a disparaging term such as 'illegal immigrant' or 'illegal alien,' " surmised Gonzalez, who oversees the Georgia Association of Latino Elected Officials, an Atlanta-based political action committee.

"I can't speak for other immigrant groups," he said, "but on behalf of the Latino community, many people I speak to on a day-to-day basis think it serves to dehumanize the person, makes them less than human. Similar to the way the n-word was used to dehumanize African-Americans."

It's not a pressing matter for the association, but the issue of what to call the state's 228,000 illegal immigrants has taken up space on the group's 2004 legislative agenda.

Gonzalez, the executive director, plans to lobby state lawmakers to use the term "undocumented workers" when talking about Mexicans and other foreigners here illegally.

"It's a more accurate reflection of people who provide a great deal for the economy," he said.

Gonzalez's reference that the term "illegal immigrant" prompts derision does not carry weight with some others.

"I don't think so at all," said Victor Davis Hanson, a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution and author of "Mexifornia: A State of Becoming." "It doesn't describe a person in a negative, pejorative way. It means they don't have U.S. citizenship and that they didn't come to the United States in a lawful manner."

" 'Illegal' means you came as an immigrant, and broke the law," said Hanson, who founded the classics studies department at Fresno State University "It's a precise term, and not just for Mexicans."

D.A. King, founder of the American Resistance Foundation, a Marietta-based group that seeks tougher enforcement of immigration laws, said the term "undocumented workers" is "a politically correct invention to soften the brutal fact that these people are breaking the law."

"A good comparison would be to say a bank robber simply made an unauthorized withdrawal," he said.

But Mexicans who make illegal border crossings for job-rich cities like Atlanta "have no choice" but to break the law, said Victoria Chacon, founder and president of the South East Hispanic Media Association.

Term of choice

In La Vision de Georgia, the Spanish language newspaper she publishes Monday through Friday, Chacon has adopted "undocumented workers" as the term of choice.

"I don't think it's illegal to come here, work hard, and live in peace," she said. "They come for their family, risk their lives to find a better lifestyle."

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution and many other news organizations use both "undocumented immigrants" and "illegal immigrants" in describing foreigners who are in the country illegally.

Meanwhile, Gonzalez of the Georgia Association of Latino Elected Officials says illegal residents fall into two categories: foreigners who never got the proper papers or those who received them, but allowed them to lapse.

"Either way they are here," Gonzalez said, "undocumented in this country. The term 'illegal alien' works to discredit the honest and thoughtful discussion that needs to take place in reforming immigration policy. It doesn't move the discussion beyond the fact that we have 8 million to 12 million undocumented immigrants in this country because of our failed immigration policy."

The Centers for Immigration Studies, a nonpartisan think tank in Washington, credits the Immigration and Naturalization Service (now the Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services) with inventing the term "undocumented workers" during the Carter administration.

"People wanted a P.C. word that downplayed the illegality of illegal immigration," said Mark Krikorian, the center's executive director. "It has no basis in law." To his knowledge, there aren't any other campaigns to encourage use of "undocumented workers." Not that it's needed.

"It's been spreading," said Krikorian, who called comparing the term "illegal immigrants" to the n-word "an outrage."

"You are either an unlawful alien, or an illegal alien," he said.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; borderjumpers; illegalaliens; immigration; insurgents; slur; wetbacks
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To: NortNork
If that's the case then I'll bet ya "wetback" really pizzes him off.
21 posted on 01/28/2004 8:04:50 PM PST by Robert Lomax
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To: NortNork
"But Mexicans who make illegal border crossings for job-rich cities like Atlanta "have no choice" but to break the law"

HUH? Does this mean that Vincente is actually driving them to the border and forcing them at gunpoint to cross and then making sure they can't turn back. Give me a break! How stupid does this bimbo think we are?

22 posted on 01/28/2004 8:05:18 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.")
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To: NortNork
I thought that we are all supposed to call 'em undocumented now...

How long before we gots to start calling 'em something else? What's the next term, non-notaried or something? I reckon damp-posteriored is out...

23 posted on 01/28/2004 8:05:25 PM PST by maxwell (Well I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation...)
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To: NortNork
But Mexicans who make illegal border crossings for job-rich cities like Atlanta "have no choice" but to break the law, said Victoria Chacon, founder and president of the South East Hispanic Media Association.

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"I don't think it's illegal to come here, work hard, and live in peace," she said. "They come for their family, risk their lives to find a better lifestyle."

Why don't they consider the "choice" of staying in their country and trying to improve the conditions there?

What is fundamentally wrong with Mexico that staying and improving the conditions there is not considered a more moral choice?

-PJ

24 posted on 01/28/2004 8:05:38 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (It's not safe yet to vote Democrat.)
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To: NortNork
""I don't think it's illegal to come here, work hard, and live in peace," she said"

This b***h isn't terribly literate is she? Hello!!! Illegal means unlawful which means it is against the law as the law is written....and guess what. Just because YOU don't think it's illegal doesn't make it any more legal. Bless your heart, you are dumber than a box of rocks aren't you?

25 posted on 01/28/2004 8:10:06 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.")
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To: NortNork
ILLEGAL ALIEN.
26 posted on 01/28/2004 8:11:19 PM PST by Viking2002
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To: Rightwing Conspiratr1
Who is this "we"? Speak for yourself.
27 posted on 01/28/2004 8:13:00 PM PST by TXnMA (No Longer!!! -- and glad to be back home (and warm) in God's Country!!)
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To: NortNork
How about 'law breaking criminal foreigners?'
28 posted on 01/28/2004 8:15:05 PM PST by TigersEye (Regime change in the courts. Impeach activist judges!)
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To: NortNork
"The term 'illegal alien' works to discredit the honest and thoughtful discussion that needs to take place in reforming immigration policy."

Uhhh, no, idiot, it identifies them as precisely what they are....aliens (that means: owing political allegiance to another country or government; foreign) and they are illegal (reiterating: not lawful). It's called correct use of the language (which in America is English, btw). You should try it sometime. Simplifies things immensely when you use the correct terminology in commucications.

29 posted on 01/28/2004 8:15:54 PM PST by sweetliberty ("Better to keep silent and be thought a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt.")
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To: gubamyster; Dutchy; sarcasm; RaceBannon
Just when you think you've read it all.
30 posted on 01/28/2004 8:17:20 PM PST by StarFan
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To: NortNork
I don't think it's illegal to come here, work hard, and live in peace

It is if you come here illegally.

31 posted on 01/28/2004 8:24:20 PM PST by Bubba_Leroy
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To: NortNork
How about "criminals without borders"?
32 posted on 01/28/2004 8:28:36 PM PST by Henchman (I Hench, therefore I am!)
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To: NortNork
They don't like being called "illegal immigrants"? Oh, poor babies. How about I call them CRIMINAL INVADERS?! Maybe they'll like that better.
33 posted on 01/28/2004 8:35:22 PM PST by Nea Wood (Democrats - they throw OUR money at THEIR problems.)
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To: Bubba_Leroy
They are not American so they are foreign. They are not law biding citizens, they are criminals breaks the laws of the land. Hence they are foreign criminals.

34 posted on 01/28/2004 8:36:28 PM PST by Kozy (Calling Al Gore)
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To: NortNork
"Illegal aliens" is the term used in the U.S. Code. See, just for one example, "Authorizing State and local law enforcement officials to arrest and detain certain illegal aliens": http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/8/1252c.html

It's interesting to analyze news reports' use of these terms. A San Jose Mercury News story got almost everything wrong: http://lonewacko.com/blog/archives/000927.html

And, here's a correction of an Arizona Republic story: http://lonewacko.com/blog/archives/000897.html

I think if you keep hammering this point about language home, and keep showing the statements of the "leaders" quoted above for what they are, eventually it will sink in.
35 posted on 01/28/2004 8:37:12 PM PST by lonewacko_dot_com (http://lonewacko.com/blog)
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To: Henchman
Personally, my current favorite is "soggy dorsaled", however, I am willing to accept "criminal migrant".
36 posted on 01/28/2004 8:37:29 PM PST by antiantiamericans
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To: NortNork
If people are offended by the term 'illegal', I am willing to start using "filthy criminal" instead.
37 posted on 01/28/2004 8:39:34 PM PST by Sloth (Why fight foreign enemies if we are surrendering to the domestic ones?)
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To: NortNork
How about CRIMINAL INVADERS?
38 posted on 01/28/2004 8:43:30 PM PST by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (A little knowledge is dangerous.-- I live dangerously::))
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To: antiantiamericans
"Criminal Migrant" is excellent and close, but what if they stay in one place? Ciminally unemplyed?
39 posted on 01/28/2004 8:49:07 PM PST by Henchman (I Hench, therefore I am!)
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To: NortNork
"Many Latinos, he said, find it offensive."

So?

40 posted on 01/28/2004 8:53:29 PM PST by El Gran Salseron (It translates as the Great, Big Dancer, nothing more. :-))
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