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Catholic Archbishop of St. Louis (Raymond Burke) would refuse communion to John Effing Kerry
St. Louis Post-Dispatch ^ | 01/30/2004 | Patricia Rice

Posted on 01/30/2004 1:51:21 PM PST by rface

Edited on 05/11/2004 5:35:52 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

If Sen. John Kerry were to stand in Archbishop Raymond L. Burke's communion line Sunday, Burke would bless him without giving him communion.

Kerry, a Catholic, has voted to support abortion rights, contrary to Catholic Church long-held teaching opposing abortion.


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1 posted on 01/30/2004 1:51:22 PM PST by rface
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To: rface
I want the Bishop to cover the Alter, come out in Purple Robes and read John F'n Kerry out of the Church, Bell, Book, and Candle, in the traditional way, lying, obfuscating, opportunistic, commie that he is.
2 posted on 01/30/2004 1:59:42 PM PST by Little Bill (The pain of being a Red Sox Fan.)
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To: rface
Catholic Archbishop of St. Louis (Raymond Burke) would refuse communion to John Effing Kerry

Because he's Jewish?

3 posted on 01/30/2004 2:04:46 PM PST by lambo
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To: lambo
Kerry is a Jewish French Catholic
4 posted on 01/30/2004 2:09:50 PM PST by rface (Ashland, Missouri -)
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To: rface
I might give him a blessing or something

That's pretty funny. Non-Catholics may not know that when Catholics line up to go forward for Communion, sometimes they have a little kid in hand because they're too young to leave back in the pew. The priest customarily blesses the kid, who is too young to receive Holy Communion, partly I suspect so the kid won't feel left out.

There's at least some implication in the bishop's comment that Kerry hasn't yet reached the age of reason.

5 posted on 01/30/2004 2:26:11 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Cicero
Monsieur Jean Kerry

Measure Number: H.R. 3396 (Defense of Marriage Act )
Kerry (D-MA), Nay

"I think there has been an exaggeration," Mr. Kerry said when asked whether President Bush has overstated the threat of terrorism.

Presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry (D-MA) blasted Pope John Paul II, telling the pontiff to keep his theology out of American politics when it comes to homosexual rights.


6 posted on 01/30/2004 2:35:14 PM PST by KQQL (@)
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To: rface
Wednesday in St. Louis, Kerry said that he shares the Catholic Church's anti-abortion views as an article of faith. But as a public official, he said, it was not "appropriate in the United States for a legislator to legislate personal religious beliefs for the rest of the country."

It is impossible to equate abortion with murder on a moral level and NOT have that translate to a belief that abortion should be illegal... unless you perhaps believe that MURDER should be legal--which would violate the Declaration of Independence.

8 posted on 01/30/2004 3:00:07 PM PST by MegaSilver
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To: MegaSilver
Excellent point. The Church sees abortion as the taking of an innocent human life. A Catholic cannot say he/she accepts that teaching personally but not publicly.The Bishop has every right to sheperd the Catholic community by pointing out the hypocrisy of this idea of personal v. public attitudes toward abortion. A courageous direction for the Kerrys and Kennedys and Cuomos would be to state the church teaching is wrong and publicly leave the Church.
9 posted on 01/30/2004 3:23:22 PM PST by xkaydet65
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To: xkaydet65
But it's alright for the Church to grant Kerry an annulment from wife #1 even tho they had two kids? Isn't that hypocrisy on behalf of the church -- granting anulments to people of property so Kerry can go on to nab his next heiress?
10 posted on 01/30/2004 3:27:51 PM PST by Ciexyz
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To: rface
would refuse communion to John Effing Kerry

I would believe it if I saw it with my own eyes. It's easy to say what you would do when the odds are against you being in that position.

11 posted on 01/30/2004 3:36:25 PM PST by TheBattman (Miserable failure = http://www.michaelmoore.com)
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To: Ciexyz
But it's alright for the Church to grant Kerry an annulment from wife #1 even tho they had two kids?

Wow hadnt heard that...how politically correct of JK.

BTW the press says Kerry votes dem to the left of Ted Kennedy..How can anybody be to the left of Ted Kennedy ?

By the way..His JK's wife is a weirdo. She looks like she doesn't have all her buttons. Anyone ?

12 posted on 01/30/2004 3:36:59 PM PST by Lady GOP
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To: rface
as a public official, he said, it was not "appropriate in the United States for a legislator to legislate personal religious beliefs for the rest of the country."

Let me reword that for clarity.

As a public official, if he legislates against the teachings of the Church, he is no longer a Catholic.

I wonder what part of the above he doesn't understand.

13 posted on 01/30/2004 4:17:35 PM PST by Republic If You Can Keep It
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To: rface; Little Bill; american colleen; sinkspur; Lady In Blue; Salvation; ...
Wednesday in St. Louis, Kerry said that he shares the Catholic Church's anti-abortion views as an article of faith. But as a public official, he said, it was not "appropriate in the United States for a legislator to legislate personal religious beliefs for the rest of the country."

"The bishop said that he acted for two reasons. One was to warn Catholic legislators that their unjust acts were spiritually harmful to them — "a grave sin." The other was to prevent "scandal": that is, weakening the faith and moral resolution of others by one's bad example. Having made every effort to persuade pro-abortion Catholic legislators to fulfill their obligations in justice to the unborn, Bishop Burke articulated the obvious: Any Catholic who exercises political power to expose a disfavored class of human beings to unjust killing sets himself against the very faith he claims to share. The Church cannot permit such a person to pretend to share in the faith he publicly defies. By receiving communion — the sacrament of unity — pro-abortion Catholics are pretending exactly that. The bishop has called a halt to the pretense."

Leading His Flock: Has the new archbishop of St. Louis crossed a line?

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14 posted on 01/30/2004 4:34:58 PM PST by NYer ("One person and God make an army." - St. Teresa of Avila)
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To: Ciexyz
Read an article from frontpagemag.com that Kerry applied for an annullment but, after opposition from his then wife, he backed down. So don't think he actually got the annullment.
Interesting how Kerry believes he has the intellectual capacity and objectivity to personally be pro-life but professionally uphold laws re abortion but people like Miguel Estrada, Pickering and other conservative judicial nominees don't possess these qualities. Gee, Kerry must really be something special......NOT!
15 posted on 01/30/2004 4:48:15 PM PST by 4integrity (AJ)
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To: NYer
The gravely evil nature of abortion is not some private, subjective "belief" eccentrically idiosyncratic to Catholics exclusively. The results of a late abortion leave hard, visible evidence of a body which meets the standards of habeas corpus. When abortion was considered a crime in the U.S. before 1973 it was not because civil law had been captured by Vatican theologians. Kerry needs to do his homework all over again. What a moron!
16 posted on 01/30/2004 4:50:21 PM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: NYer
John Kerry should be shown the actual remains of a partial-birth abortion. He should then be asked to DESCRIBE what he is looking at empirically, scientifically, and legally.

"So...um...Senator Kerry...ahem...how would describe what happened here?"

IT's NOT a private matter of "personal beliefs" or any other theological hocus pocus.

17 posted on 01/30/2004 4:57:16 PM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: NYer
Bishop Burke should hold classes for Catholic priests, pastors all across the country. I'm Catholic and I spoke with one of my parish priests re urging Catholics to do their homework before they vote for a candidate. The priest explained they could not tell people who to vote for...separation of Church and state. I responded I was not suggesting that the Church tell parishoners whom to vote for..but, I believed the Church should remind Catholics that abortion is against the teachings of the Church and, thus, Catholics should not support candidates who pro-choice. Further, Catholics should be urged to learn about judicial candidates before voting. If we continue to elect liberal judges, celebrating the true meaning of Christmas may someday be against the law. My parish priest agreed with my concerns but was not too anxious to address the issue from the pulpit. Needless to say, I felt discouraged and angry when I walked away from my parish priest.
18 posted on 01/30/2004 5:03:15 PM PST by 4integrity (AJ)
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To: 4integrity; NYer
If we continue to elect liberal judges, celebrating the true meaning of Christmas may someday be against the law. 18 posted on 01/30/2004 5:03:15 PM PST by 4integrity (AJ)

Excellent point. They seem to be moving in that direction - that all public expressions of Christianity should be forbidden. Hey...isn't THAT someone imposing their personal religious and moral views on others? The idea that there is something wrong with Christianity in public...

My parish priest agreed with my concerns but was not too anxious to address the issue from the pulpit. Needless to say, I felt discouraged and angry when I walked away from my parish priest.

One can preach on the grave evils of abortion and the culture of death, describing the organizations and ideology behind this. Secular humanism as an ideology, and population control, are within the scope of pastoral preaching. The dangers to the soul posed by secular humanist ideology and its grave moral evils are in fact things which priests should discuss with the laity. Lay men and women can also organize themselves as Catholics to discuss how these social problems should be addressed. Parishes can also schedule prayer vigils and Eucharistic Devotion in reparation for the evils of the culture of death which imperil human life in modern American society.

19 posted on 01/30/2004 5:39:12 PM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: Little Bill
Kerry is a Catholic in Name Only (CINO) just like Kennedy.

Here are some other references for all to read: Catholics and Politicians:

The Deadly Dozen

Blood On Their Hands: Exposing Pro-abortion Catholic Politicians

Kerry [Catholic} says he'll filibuster Supreme Court nominees who do not support abortion rights

PETITION TO EX-COMMUNICATE PRO-ABORTION CATHOLIC ELECTED OFFICIALS

Catholics Kerry and Kennedy have a 100% Pro-homosexual Record with the Human Rights Campaign! Page 10,11

Kerry says he alone hasn't 'played games' on abortion

AS KERRY EMERGES, SO DOES CONCERN THAT AS PRESIDENT HE MAY BE DENIED COMMUNION

Archbishop Would Refuse Communion To Kerry [Sinning Ketchup Boy Alert]

PS. We really don't want this guy as our president.

20 posted on 01/30/2004 6:09:17 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: 4integrity; Ciexyz
Does this mean the bishop would give him a pass on the adultery and subsequent shacking up with Teresa for two years before they were married?

As for Kerry's statement that he shares the church's view that abortion is wrong, but wouldn't dare impose his views as a legislator - what the heck is the point of having "views" on matters of life and death if they don't affect the way you act? Will this POS actually stand for anything?

21 posted on 01/30/2004 6:10:31 PM PST by mountaineer
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To: Ciexyz
But it's alright for the Church to grant Kerry an annulment from wife #1 even tho they had two kids?

The Church determined the marriage was not sacramental. That is a Church determination, and has no effect on the legitimacy of the children.

22 posted on 01/30/2004 6:17:31 PM PST by sinkspur (Adopt a shelter dog or cat! You'll save one life, and maybe two!)
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
Howling....good point about lay people having discussions etc. My parish does have groups that discuss the gospels and weekly readings. Thanks for making me think....there is more than one way to skin a cat....!
23 posted on 01/30/2004 6:23:13 PM PST by 4integrity (AJ)
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To: seamole; *Catholic_list; father_elijah; nickcarraway; SMEDLEYBUTLER; Siobhan; Lady In Blue; ...
Catholic Discussion Ping!

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24 posted on 01/30/2004 6:24:00 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: xkaydet65
**The Bishop has every right to sheperd the Catholic community by pointing out the hypocrisy of this idea of personal v. public attitudes toward abortion.**

BTTT!
25 posted on 01/30/2004 6:25:47 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Ciexyz
An annulment states that the marriage was not valid. It is not a license to go get hitched again.

How does your church view divorce?
26 posted on 01/30/2004 6:26:56 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: rface; Desdemona
Des, since the post is all about St. Louis, I presume one of the ladies in the picture is YOU. Which one?
27 posted on 01/30/2004 6:28:32 PM PST by ninenot (So many cats, so few recipes)
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To: Ciexyz
A friend of ours, with EIGHT children, had her marriage annulled.

It's not really about the money, and you know that. But it is interesting that the USA has about 90% of the annullments and only about 10% of the marriages.

There's a full-blown war going on in the Tribunal journals, between theologians, over the question. JPII spoke about it TODAY in Zenit, BTW. You might want to look up the article at www.zenit.com
28 posted on 01/30/2004 6:32:19 PM PST by ninenot (So many cats, so few recipes)
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To: mountaineer
No
29 posted on 01/30/2004 6:35:08 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: 4integrity
Your priest is a gutless coward and a poor excuse of a Christian. There are many scriptures condeming the behavior of these poor shepherds.
30 posted on 01/30/2004 6:42:13 PM PST by DarthVader (Liberal Democrats = The domestic enemies of the United States)
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To: xkaydet65
A courageous direction for the Kerrys and Kennedys and Cuomos would be to state the church teaching is wrong and publicly leave the Church.

Or another way to look at it:

A courageous direction for the Church would be to state that lawmakers who support abortion rights can no longer receive holy communion.

Bishop Burke is on to something here.

31 posted on 01/30/2004 6:43:22 PM PST by pegleg
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To: 4integrity
Catholic laymen (and women) from various groups (Knights of Columbus, prayer and Bible study groups, education committees, college alumni, pro-life activism, etc.) should discuss and debate how the anti-Christian (and anti-Catholic) political and ideological movements which back abortion and the culture of death should be countered.
No Catholic should ever support a pro-abortion politician.
It is legitimate to raise questions about just how anti-Christian and anti-Catholic American political movements have become. Not only should questions be raised about pro-abortion liberal Democrats. Questions should be raised about whether Republicans are doing all they can to address the decline of Christian civilization in America.
32 posted on 01/30/2004 6:46:30 PM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: pegleg
Bishop Burke is doing just as the Scriptures say in 1 Corinthians 5 and taking the position of administering church discipline to those who behave in contrary ways to Christian norms. It basically prescribes making the offender an outcast until they repent and behave in the proper manner. A form of tough love. I really commend him and Christ is giving him the courage to stand up.
33 posted on 01/30/2004 6:51:13 PM PST by DarthVader (Liberal Democrats = The domestic enemies of the United States)
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To: DarthVader
I really commend him and Christ is giving him the courage to stand up.

Amen to that. There used to be a time when these scoundrels had to do public penance in sack-cloth and ashes.

34 posted on 01/30/2004 6:57:00 PM PST by pegleg
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To: pegleg
I am all for bringing that practice back. Maybe hit em with a few rotten tomatoes and eggs.
35 posted on 01/30/2004 7:00:31 PM PST by DarthVader (Liberal Democrats = The domestic enemies of the United States)
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To: Cicero
That's pretty funny. Non-Catholics may not know that when Catholics line up to go forward for Communion, sometimes they have a little kid in hand because they're too young to leave back in the pew. The priest customarily blesses the kid, who is too young to receive Holy Communion, partly I suspect so the kid won't feel left out.

You're right, although not just children do this. I am divorced and remarried, so I am not "eligible under the rules" to receive communion. I often go through the communion line with my daughter, and instead of holding out my hand for the host, I clasp my hands and bow my head when I reach the priest, who then blesses me. Certainly I can use a blessing! :-)

36 posted on 01/30/2004 7:12:14 PM PST by T Minus Four
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To: ninenot; Desdemona
Des, since the post is all about St. Louis, I presume one of the ladies in the picture is YOU. Which one?

the one with the cucumber sandwich of course!   :-)
37 posted on 01/30/2004 7:23:35 PM PST by GirlShortstop
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To: Salvation
Thanks for the ping, Sal . . .

I cannot be acquiescent to this thread. There is too much vitriol here. I feel the need to declare this . . .

38 posted on 01/30/2004 7:28:39 PM PST by BraveMan
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To: Ciexyz; Lady GOP
But it's alright for the Church to grant Kerry an annulment from wife #1 even tho they had two kids? Isn't that hypocrisy on behalf of the church -- granting anulments to people of property so Kerry can go on to nab his next heiress?

1. Kerry applied for an annulment after remarrying but it was either denied or didn't even reach the stage where it would be denied.

2. Having 2 kids isn't necessarily a deciding factor. It's not about the kids, it's about whether the marriage was sacramental.

3. The "granting annulments to rich people" thing is likely a myth. It's fairly easy for ANYONE to get an annulment, rich or poor, although that's a scandal in itself. The guidelines are interpreted to be very flexible.

39 posted on 01/30/2004 7:31:54 PM PST by JohnnyZ
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To: HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
....how anti-Christian culture should be countered...

Last year, a Freeper posted that Priests for Life were sponsoring a national voter registration drive. At that time, I researched Priests for Life and obtained info re how to set up the registration drive at my Church. I then spoke with the Pastor of my Church and volunteered to set up a voter registration table on the date designated. My Pastor advised that this had been done before and perhaps when it gets closer to the election we may do it again. Unfortunately, it seems many Christians, even religious leaders, are reluctant to speak out for their beliefs for fear of appearing controversial or possibly offending someone or simply they are uncomfortable with confrontation. Apathy is no longer an option. And, if priests/pastors will not stand up for God then who will. The liberal judges are attempting to protect the rights of some by diminishing or restricting the rights of others, especially Christians. These judges will do this as long as we allow them to. We must vote these liberal judges and politicians OUT of office. Sorry for venting.....
40 posted on 01/30/2004 7:33:20 PM PST by 4integrity (AJ)
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To: autoresponder
Kerry eating a hotdog!
41 posted on 01/30/2004 7:38:24 PM PST by potlatch (Whenever I feel 'blue', I start breathing again.)
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To: 4integrity
Unfortunately, it seems many Christians, even religious leaders, are reluctant to speak out for their beliefs for fear of appearing controversial or possibly offending someone or simply they are uncomfortable with confrontation.

We are blessed that Archbishop Burke has the courage and inspiration of the Holy Spirit to speak out.

42 posted on 01/30/2004 7:39:19 PM PST by HowlinglyMind-BendingAbsurdity
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To: ninenot
Des, since the post is all about St. Louis, I presume one of the ladies in the picture is YOU. Which one?

In a Carolina Panther outfit? Take your pick.
43 posted on 01/31/2004 5:20:34 AM PST by Desdemona (Kempis' Imitation of Christ online! http://www.leaderu.com/cyber/books/imitation/imitation.html)
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To: Ciexyz
Absolutely hypocritical, but and it's a big but, annulments do not involve the taking of human life. Some do believe that annulments are the slippery slope down which the church's moral authority will cascade, but JPII has spoken on the American Church's propensity for Catholic divorce and there have been fewer in recent years.What needs to be publicly afirmed is the necessity of those who call themselves Catholic to stand for life, not death. The irony is that the phrase "life not death" comes from Cuomo's speech in 84 convention. Hypocritically ironic for a Catholic whose party supported death on an apocalyptic scale.
44 posted on 01/31/2004 7:10:40 AM PST by xkaydet65
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To: pegleg
I agree, but my comment was made in anticipation of the howling that would result if all U.S. Bishops followed Burke's lead. They will scream that the church is illegaly involving itself in the political arena, when if they were men and women of true conviction they would leave a Church whose teachings they cannot follow.

The Jesuits taught me that Luther while wrong in his fundamental belief of Faith alone, was genuinely a man of courage and conviction. Pro abortion democrats are wrong, but possess neither true courage nor conviction.

45 posted on 01/31/2004 7:16:40 AM PST by xkaydet65
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To: MegaSilver
Abortion Decision Affirmed. S. 3 (Roll Call 48)

This resolution affirmed that the Supreme Court’s 1973 decision legalizing abortion was correct. ACU believes the original decision in Roe v. Wade was wrongly decided. ACU opposed this resolution. It passed 52-46 on 12 March 2003

ACU opposed this bill.

This bill was: passed The vote was: 52-46

Senator Kerry voted in support of abortion decision affirmation

46 posted on 01/31/2004 7:17:37 AM PST by mware
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To: Salvation
An annulment states that the marriage was not valid. It is not a license to go get hitched again.

I'm willing to be educated. After watching the plotlines of many soap operas, I just assumed this was the case.

How does your church view divorce?

The Presbyterian Church USA doesn't go near the issue, as far as I'm aware. Divorced ministers can still preach in the pulpit. This is in contrast to the Assemblies of God, which deny a divorced minister the right to remarry and still preach in the pulpit - however, a divorced minister can still preach if he/she stays celibate.

47 posted on 01/31/2004 10:24:40 AM PST by Ciexyz
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To: JohnnyZ
Kerry applied for an annulment after remarrying but it was either denied or didn't even reach the stage where it would be denied.

It would be interesting to learn the final result. Did he just let it drop? Did the church deny it had validity?

48 posted on 01/31/2004 10:27:34 AM PST by Ciexyz
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To: rface
"I would have to admonish him not to present himself for communion," said Burke. "I might give him a blessing or something," he said. "If his archbishop has told him he should not present himself for communion, he shouldn't. I agree with Archbishop (Sean P.) O'Malley (of Boston.)"

Did Archbishop O'Malley say that Kerry shouldn't receive Communion? Did I miss something?

Here's a great quote from Archbishop O'Malley when he was bishop of the Fall River diocese:

I will not vote for any politician who will promote abortion or the culture of death, no matter how appealing the rest of his or her program might be. They are wolves in sheep’s garments, the K.K.K. without the sheets, and sadly enough, they don’t even know it.

If I were ever tempted to vote for simply selfish reasons, tribal allegiances, or economic advantages rather than on the moral direction of the country, I should beat a hasty retreat from the curtain of the polling booth to the curtain of the confessional.


49 posted on 02/01/2004 6:42:09 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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To: MegaSilver
It is impossible to equate abortion with murder on a moral level and NOT have that translate to a belief that abortion should be illegal... unless you perhaps believe that MURDER should be legal--which would violate the Declaration of Independence.

True. It doesn't take much to push through the "I'm personally opposed, but..." rhetoric. Unfortunately, they're never challenged by the media.

50 posted on 02/01/2004 6:44:30 AM PST by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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